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AIBU about money?

77 replies

dorokdorok · 11/06/2019 13:12

I'm wondering if I might be being unreasonable so I thought I'd see what the AIBU hordes might think.

I work part-time, DH works full-time. He earns more than me. I am employed, but my income fluctuates because I sometimes take on freelance work on top of this. So every month we look at what we've both earned and then split our monthly payment into the joint account accordingly. I think this is fair and I'm happy with this. Most of the time it's him paying 60% and me paying 40%, but very occasionally it's 50/50, and once or twice it has been me paying a bit more.

Anyway. Last year, my parents gave me (us) £24,000. An extremely generous gift made possible because they moved house and bought another, much cheaper one.

DH has never made any assumptions on what the money will be spent on, nor has he even asked me. He is very respectful about that, although as far as I'm concerned, it's our money. I made one slightly frivolous purchase (a very fancy tent and some other posh camping gear), and the rest has been at least partly spent on various home and garden improvements. There is till some money left (about £9k).

Last year, we converted our garage into an office, with electricity going in, nice new floor, roof, lighting, paint etc. It cost quite a lot of money but we paid for it together (it wasn't solely funded by the gift from my parents). We also refurbished our lounge and had a patio built.

Because the patio was built close to Christmas and DH had spent a lot on presents for me and our daughter, I paid for the patio with my parents' money. I didn't ask DH for a contribution, though he did offer.

Anyway, my AIBU is this: we have just had some very expensive fencing put in. It looks really nice, and we are happy with it. It cost just under £4k (it is close-board fencing, which is made up of individual planks of wood, nailed on by hand one by one - that's why it was so expensive). DH did not have money to put towards it, so I paid with my parents' money and asked that he pay me back his proportion towards the cost, which he is doing in instalments.

His proportion of the cost is higher than mine because of the difference in our incomes. He hasn't grumbled about paying towards the fence, but I'm wondering if it's fair of me to ask him, given that I have this money from my parents? I would like to put some of it into the mortgage. I also want some savings - I don't really have any at the moment because a lot has been spent on the house. But I could afford to just swallow up the cost of the fence.

DH wants to overpay the mortgage and is willing to contribute a certain amount of his income towards this each money. But can't he afford to start doing this until he has paid for the fence. I'm wondering if I'm being a bit unreasonable in asking him to contribute? Should I just write it off and then he can start overpaying instead? In the long run, wouldn't that benefit us better? I'm not too sure.

For full background, in the past he's paid the bulk of things and when we bought our house, he had lots of savings and I had none, so he paid most of our deposit. This is another reason why I feel a bit mean. But there is a tiny voice in my head that's also noticing he's spent a fortune on clothes and records recently. And so a small (and probably a bit mean) part of me is asking whether he would have been able to contribute more to the fence if he hadn't spent so much on all that stuff.

I should also add that we haven't argued about this at all, and I'm genuinely not sure what to do, hence this post. Please be gentle with me!

OP posts:
BentBaastard · 11/06/2019 17:17

This is way too complicated for me.

Just pool everything and be done with it.

Discuss purchases over £100.

The End.

mistermagpie · 11/06/2019 17:29

This is weird to me. If my DH's parents gifted us money there would be no consideration (from us or them) that it would be 'his' and not 'ours'. This paying each other back for stuff is like something flatmates do, not married couples. Well, not in any marriage I would want to be part of.

FWIW I earn less than DH because I work part time. We just put all our money together and it's one pot, it doesn't matter where it came from. The only separate thing is I have a credit union account which I stick a bit in here and there which is used for birthday or Christmas presents for DH - I wouldn't buy those out of a joint account!

NoSquirrels · 11/06/2019 17:30

Since I wasn't expecting the thread to turn nasty (though I expect I should have known better), I'm going to ask MNHQ to take it down.

I think that's a tiny bit of an over-reaction - no one's been very nasty!

If your DH is keen to overpay the mortgage, just get him to put the equivalent of the 'fence loan' into the mortgage overpayments now. Then when you're 'up to date', have a proper sit down together to look at assets, income, outgoings, savings and your priorities as a family and agree some goals together.

Hollowvictory · 11/06/2019 17:31

What a strange wY of doing things! He has to pay you back for his share of the fence? 😂Is this for real?

mrsmuddlepies · 11/06/2019 17:34

Bling loving and purpleartichoke , you both suggested that the husband should pay his wife for childcare. He wanted to be the one to work part time and be with his daughter but the OP chose to do it. Do you think that he should have to pay her the whole time she is with the child, say £4 an hour? Do you think the OP should pay 'half' of her own fee for her time? Her husband clearly would have preferred to be the one to work part time. Their child is school age so days are free for the OP.
It seems unbelievably mercenary and complicated.

BananaCatto · 11/06/2019 17:36

What I fail to understand is why you had £4K of fencing put in if you, as a couple, couldn’t afford it.

AliceRR · 11/06/2019 18:07

I think those saying it’s joint money because you’re married need to consider that everyone handles their finances differently

However, since you have said that in the past he's paid the bulk of things and when we bought our house, he had lots of savings and I had none, so he paid most of our deposit, I think it is a complete double-standard for you to expect him to pay half (or actually more than half as he earns a bit more than you?!) now that you have a bit more in the bank

I think the reason you are asking is because you don’t feel right about it as you know it’s unfair

Hollowvictory · 11/06/2019 18:22

Yes what if he asks you for half the house deposit?

lboogy · 11/06/2019 19:13

YAbu. You're both paying towards the house improvements, albeit the most recent refurb has been paid out of your parents' gift to you.
Why on earth is he paying you back for a fence or any house improvements for that matter? Especially when you say he's paid the bulk of your household costs?

You both live in the house, presume you own it jointly, thus you will benefit equally from it's increase in value.

You sound more like roommates than husband and wife.

Do you plan to leave him? Is that why you're divving up everything like your relationship is transactional?

Aswad · 11/06/2019 19:31

I can never understand why people are so bitchy. Obviously OP is unsure about ti's hence why she's asking for advice.
OP I agree with PP and pay for the fence if you can. He doesn't seem to come across tight and you don't want to risk something like this causing resentment.

CannonCaboodle · 11/06/2019 19:34

YABU for asking your husband to "pay you back" for the fence. What a weird relationship.

sanmiguel · 11/06/2019 19:39

I don't get this, sorry. A 50 quid voucher for your birthday- yes totally yours to spend. A significant sum of money (inheritance etc) is surely to be considered as join income to go in the joint pot. I would feel incredibly tight, more room mate than wife, to suggest my husband puts in 60% towards the bills on the basis of his income but then I squirrel away my in- comings for myself. Def seems like what's yours is mine and what's mine's my own...
Having said that, I didn't realise what odd financial set ups there were in marriages until u joined MN and if this has always worked for both of you, go for it. I do think though that you're not being honest if you say you wouldn't be at all miffed if your husband won a large sum or cane home with a sizeable bonus from work and decided to squirrel it away to decide how best he might spend it leaving you coppering up to pay him your share of the fence 😳

Sleepsoon7 · 11/06/2019 19:46

Ha - I understand the OPs position and my DH has never wanted totally joint finances so we agree between us who pays for what and the proportions. It’s not what I would have chosen but after over 20 years it’s not going to change. In OPs circumstances if her DH is fair and reasonable about finances generally (and it seems like he is) then I would just pay for the fence myself (unless I’d earmarked the money for something specific or was putting it away as an ‘exit fund’.......which doesn’t seem the position here).

BentBaastard · 11/06/2019 20:53

I predict this thread will disappear soon as the op doesn’t like what we have said.

Predicted thread 3 to disappear today.

codemonkey · 11/06/2019 21:06

Way too complicated for me. You're married. You pool your money. Neither stitches the other up by spending 'unfairly' because you love and respect each other. If you can't trust each other to do this, why are you married? (That's a general comment btw, not aimed specifically at you, OP)

Phoningliz · 11/06/2019 21:18

This is all very complicated!

He paid more than you on other stuff, but when you have the extra cash, he has to match it? But he only earns more than you in the first place because you gave up some of your earning power to do the childcare?

Hollowvictory · 11/06/2019 21:30

Bent what other threads have disappeared?

missymayhemsmum · 11/06/2019 21:43

YANBU to decide that you want to safeguard the remaining 9k from your parents as a rainy day/emergency/ daughter's future fund and pay for the fence out of current income.

Why not agree with your DH that you will keep (say) £10k or more in that account, which you can borrow from for house projects (as you have) but it has to be topped back up (by one or both of you) before you start overpaying the mortgage? Otherwise once it's gone, it's gone

LeavesAndGreenTrees · 11/06/2019 21:44

OP you are married. Legally everything either of you have or own, belongs to both of you. If you were to divorce, your assets would be considered together and divided between you according to need.

LeavesAndGreenTrees · 11/06/2019 21:45

Can’t say I understand spending £4K on a fence when you have no savings either.

bluegreygreen · 11/06/2019 22:29

DH did not have money to put towards it, so I paid with my parents' money and asked that he pay me back his proportion towards the cost, which he is doing in instalments

So by definition you don't think of it as 'our' money

BentBaastard · 11/06/2019 22:34

@hollowvictory

There was one about an email a poster had received a few years ago from her mil and she thought it was a wild read...... she got hammered for posting personal messages on a public forum.

The other one was about how annoying her mil was for wanting to spend time with her Dil after looking after the kids and she said the woman is 74. What am I meant to do with her.

She was mean.

Symbol · 11/06/2019 23:01

Your DH is paying you back in installments? This sounds odd to me. This is obviously how the pair of you deal with your finances. You keep them separate and keep notes of who owes who what. It would tire me out. I would just pay for the fence with the spare money gifted to me. I would also discuss with my DH what would be best for us to do with the rest of the gifted money and any other spare money.

Drogosnextwife · 11/06/2019 23:05

If my parents gave us a cash gift I honestly wouldn't think twice about spending any of it on the house and would never ask my dp to pay me back for half or more of the work done. I find that very odd.

LagunaBubbles · 11/06/2019 23:40

Since I wasn't expecting the thread to turn nasty (though I expect I should have known better), I'm going to ask MNHQ to take it down

Its so tedious reading posts like this just because people don't get the responses they wanted.