To think that no sane women

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....could ever vote for Boris Johnson?

Reading The Sunday Times over brekkie and thinking about Matthew Parris's spot on words in yesterday's paper:

"he's a habitual liar, a cheat, a conspirator with a criminal pal to have an offending journalist's ribs broken, a cruel betrayer of the women he seduces, a politician who connived in a bid for a court order to suppress mention of a daughter he fathered, a do-nothing mayor of London and the worst foreign secretary in living memory"

I'm a so called floating voter but could never vote for this buffoon but it seems he has a lot of support. Why???

He's got a strange kind of charisma, unfortunately.

... as Trump, Putin, Pablo Escobar and even Ted Bundy

My dad thinks he is clever

That’s basically it

Thought experiment: BoJo vs Keir Starmer in a general election?

Even my deeply conservative Dad would think twice.

(personally I'd prefer Yvette Cooper but being a woman she'd lose his vote )

@blacksax I think I read that Gove made his drug taking known as someone was going to do it for him. Damage control I guess. It looks better coming from him rather than the newspapers.

Tan I don't think Boris' support is about Brexit. The Conservatives I know who would vote for Boris aren't Leavers. They're not viewing every vote as a re-run of Brexit. They just think he's the obvious choice to lead the party. None of them can explain to me why his obvious incompetence isn't a barrier.

This should read no sane person.

He may be all those things and more, but he is extremely charming in person (I know) which is why so many people will vote for him.

So we could be faced with a choice between a buffoon (Boris), a Marxist (Corbyn) or a Car Salesman (Farage). Time to emigrate.

Bill Bailey described Boris Johnson as "a bloated anaemic fur seal" 😂

They are all the same

I used to like him as a politician as he seemed more direct and honest. Unfortunately this has shown to be complete bollocks. I also hate his pathetic attitude to relationships.

How he can now be PM when he absolutely bottled it after the referendum is a mystery. He knew it was too difficult a job for him and he’d likely end up like May.

I think Boris is popular in England as so many older voters there still have the little England mentality of doffing their caps to their betters with the posh voices and floppish hair

Please everyone DO NOT FALL for the bumbling buffoon act.

They are all the same

I don't think all Politicians are all the same actually. I don't necessarily trust any of them as far as I could throw them and I do think you have to be pretty ruthless to make it as a career politician in the first place so they've got that in common, but I don't honestly believe they're all as bad as Boris. They're not all openly racist for a start.

I do wonder if certain sections of the Conservatives like him because he's known for lack of attention to detail, for not reading briefings, etc, so they assume he's leave state departments and civil servants to get on with running the country whilst he floats about like a quirky figurehead.
As one of my friends put it 'Gove is sneaky, devious and intelligent - which would make him a good PM but also makes him untrustworthy.' Perhaps they think Boris is more transparent and easier to manipulate?

My dad thinks he is clever

I fear your Dad is right. He's not a "buffoon" as people have repeatedly said on this thread, he knows exactly what he's doing. You know when people say "if he had a brain he'd be dangerous"? Well Boris does have a brain and he is fucking dangerous. The thought of him becoming PM genuinely scares me.

He's not a "buffoon" as people have repeatedly said on this thread, he knows exactly what he's doing.

The same was thought of Trump and three years on, there is no shred of evidence that he is any other than a narcissist fool... with a fully active team of people working around the clock trying to sort his thousands of blunders.

I take heart that there are people who agree.

Out of interest, Boris vs Corbyn vs Farage - who would you choose?

I genuinely don't think I'd be able to vote for any of them.

I am more afraid of the political situation now than ever in my life and I have lived through part of Nikita Khrushchev's polital reign.

I am terrified in fact. There are no 'good guys' any more.

Faced with a choice of Corbyn or Johnson I guess Jo Swinson/Ed Davey will look a lot more attractive.

I'd go with Corbyn on the assumption (blind hope) that literally any other Labour MP would take over fairly soon

I remember about four years ago saying to my DH jokingly...."Can you imagine that we could end up in a situation where we have Boris as PM, we're out of the EU and our only friend is the US with Trump at the helm?"

This was just before Trump being elected...with the referendum looming.

I never thought we would actually end up with any of those three things happening.

It's absolutely terrifying. Although... could it be so shockingly awful that it turns people off populism for decades to come?

Personally I would sya no sane person should ever vote for him.

However, many women..who I presume are sane voted for bloody Trump, who is a thousand times worse. So, stranger things and all..

Violent - I don't think that's true, I think there are good people with good intentions on all sides.

I like Ken Clarke, Nick Boles, Ruth Davidson, Jess Phillips, David Lammy, Yvette Cooper, Caroline Lucas, Jo Swinson etc etc. I don't believe they're all bad.

I do think Brexit has brought out the worst in people, a little England mentally fuelled by the popular press that some politicians are feeding off to boost their own egotistical ambitions. It's created such a nasty rhetoric and I hate it.

I do have hope that the young will come through and bring a new perspective.