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Reach for the stars, sun, moon or Mars. Trump thread 94

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lionheart · 07/06/2019 22:27

www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-07/trump-s-tariffs-have-wiped-out-most-families-tax-cut-gains

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Roussette · 30/06/2019 07:23

And I wonder how many Kim Jong Un will execute this time if it doesn't go according to plan? He did after the Hanoi meeting with Trump.

This is all over Twitter. Ivanka making a complete embarrassment of herself in front of Trudeau, May, Macron and Christine Legarde (head of IMF). Legarde's expression says it all.... (translated as 'and who the hell are YOU and WHY are you here?')

dctribune.org/ivanka-just-humiliated-herself-while-trying-to-carry-on-a-conversation-with-world-leaders-painfully-obvious-shes-clueless/

Roussette · 30/06/2019 07:26

And while I'm at it... why the heck is she wearing a princess dress with bell sleeves?!

I have the mother of all headaches this morning and that clip annoys the hell out of me

TheClaws · 30/06/2019 07:28

Umm ... I don’t think so. Trump did not end a war.

Jennifer Jacobs @JenniferJJacobs
“35 million people, 25 miles away,” Trump says at DMZ. “There was great conflict here prior to our meeting in Singapore.

“Tremendous conflict and death, all around them..And it’s now been extremely peaceful. It’s been a whole different world.”

TheClaws · 30/06/2019 09:17

Trump and KJU meet. Very odd scene.

Margaret Talev @margarettalev
NOW: ⁦
@IvankaTrump
⁩ and Jared Kushner enter this blue conference building where you can also cross into North Korea. The building straddles the line. Press were not allowed to follow but I’ve been there before. You literally cross midpoint and you’re there

Reach for the stars, sun, moon or Mars. Trump thread 94
TheClaws · 30/06/2019 09:34

Not only that, but by stepping into NK territory (he did do that with KJU) he gave KJU exactly all he wanted - legitimacy with his people and glory for decades to come. The NK people don’t know that Trump is a vainglorious numpty. As far as they’re concerned, he is a symbol of the powerful, all-knowing but corrupt capitalist Western world.

Caroline Orr @RVAwonk
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Trump just invited Kim Jong Un to the White House.

Whosorrynow · 30/06/2019 10:40

Trump seems not to care that he is patently not fit for office, but it's good to see a Ivanka ostracized by the grown-ups

TheClaws · 30/06/2019 11:56

A reminder ... and remember, Trump got absolutely nothing for this. KJU received everything.

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Kevin Baron @DefenseBaron
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Now that’s remarkable. Still upending all diplomatic conventions, he just...he just walks right in. ...Of course, no North Korean is allowed to walk OUT or Kim has them killed.

cozietoesie · 30/06/2019 12:48

Ouch.

To note. Vetting docs.

Whosorrynow · 30/06/2019 12:48

Perhaps this is trump's version of the narcissistic 'hoover' manoeuvre with KJU?

cozietoesie · 30/06/2019 12:53

I don't think 45 has the capacity to put any behaviour in a strategic context.

Whosorrynow · 30/06/2019 13:22

I agree that his machinations are all unconsciously calculated ...he does not have the cognitive capacity for deliberate conscious strategizing

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lionheart · 30/06/2019 15:15

Tucker Carlson:

"You've got to be honest about what it means to lead a country, it means killing people.

It's the nature of life and power.

A lot of countries commit atrocities, including our allies."

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AcrossthePond55 · 30/06/2019 16:52

My son's been to that building on the border between SK and NK. They were lectured sternly about how to behave. He positioned himself in the meeting room and slowly slid his foot over the 'border'. He said the NK guard sort of smirked but didn't say anything.

Can't you just hear the what the uproar from the Right would have been if it had been Obama who had crossed the border? As far as I'm concerned, who gives a shit if Trump did? NBFD. We all know how he feels about totalitarian dictatorships. Why would it surprise us that he visited one, even if only for a brief moment. Too bad he didn't stay there.

Whosorrynow · 30/06/2019 16:54

somewhat tangential but I found this discussion of China's intentions interesting:
newbooksnetwork.com/jonathan-d-t-ward-chinas-vision-of-victory-atlas-publishing-2019/

goodness only knows what trump's understanding of Chinese history & culture is

Whosorrynow · 30/06/2019 16:57

We all know how he feels about totalitarian dictatorships
I wonder if he understands the connections between totalitarian dictatorships and failed states, 'shit-hole' countries etc?

Whosorrynow · 30/06/2019 17:22
US President Donald Trump has become the first US president to go into North Korea while leader.

lots of shouting and panicking in the background!

Roussette · 30/06/2019 17:36

A US Navy vet's letter to his Trump loving family....

mydaughtersarmy.org/open-letter-to-my-trump-supporting-family/

lionheart · 30/06/2019 23:50

www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/06/bill-barrs-dangerous-pursuit-executive-power/592951/

'Having known Barr for four decades, including preceding him as deputy attorney general in the Bush administration, I knew him to be a fierce advocate of unchecked presidential power, so my own hopes were outweighed by skepticism that this would come true. But the first few months of his current tenure, and in particular his handling of the Mueller report, suggest something very different—that he is using the office he holds to advance his extraordinary lifetime project of assigning unchecked power to the president.'

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TheClaws · 01/07/2019 01:02

Tucker Carlson’s comment there is awful. Is he giving Trump some kind of permission?

TheClaws · 01/07/2019 01:54

I found this comment too of Tucker Carlson’s, from the same interview. It’s interesting as it illustrates the isolationist, self-absorbed view of the US. They are not interested in helping the North Koreans, South Koreans, Japanese, or anyone else. Everything leads back to the most important cause: the US. This is the reverse of what many people would have felt; the US, like many countries, helps others in times of need. That may not be the case any more.

‘In the end what matters is what’s good for the United States,” Carlson said. “And you deal with bad people a lot of the time in order to help your own country. That’s kind of the way I think Trump sees it.”’

www.thedailybeast.com/tucker-carlson-leading-a-country-means-killing-people?via=twitter_page

TheClaws · 01/07/2019 02:17

Sorry, more on Carlson. This is a Fox interview. In this one, Carlson claims KJU was unhealthy and cowed by Trump’s masculine presence.

Carlson also said he believed Trump has been genuine in his relationship with Kim and claimed the president "dominated" and "towered over" the rogue state leader.

"I think it's heartfelt ... he's not an admirer of the atrocities [Kim's] committed obviously, but Trump thinks he's a competent scrappy guy ... and it can't be easy to hold on to third generational power in a country like that where the ruling class is filled with 80-year-old generals ... it takes a pretty hard man to keep a hold on power in a place like North Korea, so I think Trump respects his toughness," he said.

"My sense ... just standing there for an hour watching -- I think he was probably a little bit overwhelmed by Trump who towers over him and who is a very large man," Carlson added. "He seemed to kind of dominate him and there was a kind of magnetism and real aggression to Trump, so it didn't feel exactly like peers. It felt like maybe an older brother-younger brother kind of situation."

www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-kim-north-korea-dominated-wheezing-dmz-tucker-carlson

TheClaws · 01/07/2019 04:48

Blech. Very strange thinking. If this is Christian thinking, then I’m out. And how would Christians equate this border theory to the strict North Korean border? Machine guns, barbed wire, zero crossings bar for photo ops and heavily escorted tourism from the South Korean side only ...

Lou Dobbs @LouDobbs
#AmericaFirst - @RobertJeffress
: God has given government the right and responsibility to establish laws, enforce those laws, and protect their citizens. There is nothing unchristian about government protecting its border to protect its citizens. #MAGA #Dobbs

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