to hate impossible (to prove) rape statistics?

[theman]

i mean they are just lazy.
the amount of reports and arguments regarding the topic i have heard over the year which involves people repeating them as "fact" just pisses me off beyond belief.
the two most common (or variant of the two) are.

35% of rapes go unreported. (how can you know this if they are not reported?)

70 % of rapists go free from court ( if they are found innocent in a court of law how can you call them a rapist)

it is more the reactioni get when i pull someone up on these facts and figures that annoys me.they act as though by not accepting their figures i am pro rape, when it is quite the opposite, i think lazy figures like this trivialise the matter and lead to skewed opinions.

(sorry was just giving a criminal lecture and a student used one of these figures in a point she made and the whole class looked at me like i'd shot their dogs.)

"Surely if you have studied criminal law you would know the answer to this , the fact you are asking how do they know this makes me think your a fake....its foundation course stuff"

Hell, I know about the British Crime Surveys and all I've done is about half the OU preparing to study module on the free OpenLearn site

exactly thats what i have been saying this whole thread theman is clearly a fake or a fraudster.....

think there is something odd going on here see
this thread

sorry but what relevance would that thread have to anything?
so what next time i am disagreeing with a poster if i can find a thread somewhere else on the website with a question regarding their personal life it is somehow relevant?
well that makes sense.

We don't disagree with you as much as laugh at your attempts to troll.

thats fine and i'm no longer going to argue with you on this matter no one is going to change their minds. i was just wondering why that poster would drag up a completely unrelated thread for this topic.

yea i just have lost all respect for you that your other thread is like a joke

Bye bye! Off you go, back under your bridge.

so that would be no one who sees a relevance in them posting that other thread. thought so.

yes it could be unrelated but how can you expect mners to be sympathetic to your questions about your personal life when you design a thread that is at best provocative and at worst offensive.

who;s steve shchindler?

am glad 'theman'was not one of my law lecturers.......

i wasn't asking for sympathy. i asked a question in a completely unrelated thread.
i'm just wondering what point you were trying to prove by posting it here.
if you can explain it's relevance at least then i can defend myself/argue my point. but as far as i can see that thread has absolutely no connection to the topic at hand. it may aswell be about the weather or petrol prices.

Steve incarnated rather famously on MN as the gloriously bogus JudgeFlounce, a whisky drinking High Court Judge with a lot of highly unreliable advice and an encyclopaediac knowledge of local Tie Racks.
Theman is not nearly as entertaining, but possibly even more ignorant of criminology. The spelling and grammar is also worse.

Mind you the added dimension of the disco dancing, fancy moves, babe-magnet elements to the character give it a sort of 70s sleazy comedy, I have to say.

thanks aloha

judgeflounce, twas before my time

"the man" should know as a criminal law lecturer that the majority of rape victims actually know their attacker. Isn't it something like 7 or 8 out of 10?

They are far more likely to be a colleague or, sadly, a male friend or acquaintance than the masked figure in a balaclava leaping out from behind a bush, wielding a knife and screaming "get on the floor, you brazenly mini-skirted trollop".

I'm sure all of the women on here know how to take sensible precautions like carrying attack alarms and not venturing down dark alleys and so on.

I've heard about this judge flounce incident but I don't know how he was "outed". How did you even manage to find out his true identity??

if you want advice from a group of people it just helps not to alienate them first. This makes me think you are being a bit naive or delibrately trying to wind us all up

And most rapists know that if they buy their intended victim a drink and maybe persuade them to have a dance, they can do what they like and get away with it, so that's how they operate. It worked a treat for Ian Huntley, for example.

Unquiet Dad, it was a long, very, very funny story. JudgeFlounce became increasingly keen to give advice that was completely wrong (lots of posts going 'Hmm...I'll come back to you with a legal opinion later, client walking through the door' so giving him time to look something up on google) but of course MN is pretty rich in proper lawyers, such as PPH and Issymum and others, who outed him eventually. He famously called PPH a 'jumped up office girl' when she coolly demolished him.
The funniest thing ever was that s/he was planning to turn up to a meetup. This gave rise to an hiliarious thread speculating on the nature of his planned disguise.
It was fun

"if you want advice from a group of people it just helps not to alienate them first. This makes me think you are being a bit naive or delibrately trying to wind us all up"

i think you'll find thats why i didn't ask for help on my taxes in this thread. i still see no reason for you posting the other thread other than you thought it would annoy me or make me look foolish.in which case thats pretty sad. if i am wrong i apologise and await the true motives for posting the link and look forward to your explanation as to how they have furthered the thread.

help with taxes would be okay as it is objective. Asking us for ways to explain to dw about how many birds you could have pulled on your nights on the town is not

"Asking us for ways to explain to dw about how many birds you could have pulled on your nights on the town is not"

you still haven't explained what relevance it had to the thread.
surely it would have made more sense to post in the other thread "i don't like you so i'm not giving advice"

lets leave it theman. I thought it was relevant to the issue about whether you were trolling or not. Think it is probably boring for everybody else though