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to hate impossible (to prove) rape statistics?

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theman · 23/07/2007 14:09

i mean they are just lazy.
the amount of reports and arguments regarding the topic i have heard over the year which involves people repeating them as "fact" just pisses me off beyond belief.
the two most common (or variant of the two) are.

35% of rapes go unreported. (how can you know this if they are not reported?)

70 % of rapists go free from court ( if they are found innocent in a court of law how can you call them a rapist)

it is more the reactioni get when i pull someone up on these facts and figures that annoys me.they act as though by not accepting their figures i am pro rape, when it is quite the opposite, i think lazy figures like this trivialise the matter and lead to skewed opinions.

(sorry was just giving a criminal lecture and a student used one of these figures in a point she made and the whole class looked at me like i'd shot their dogs.)

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theman · 24/07/2007 12:31

"there is no way in hell theman is a lecturer on this subject....totally ill informed...probably here just to wind us up"

the subject of rape statistics? i never claimed i was. i'm a lecturer of criminal law and my point from the start was that such statistics in my theatre. that is all.

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EscapeFrom · 24/07/2007 12:31

That's nothing, I am found drunk whilst in possession of breasts!

princessbride · 24/07/2007 12:31

the man if you are accepting paychecks and teaching students in this manner i would be ashamed...as a criminology student myself i am both flabagastered and appauled that you have some how managed to pass yourself off as bing an expert in this subject....you ought to be ashamed and give a bad name to the many amazing lecturers i have come across in my studys

JeremyVile · 24/07/2007 12:32

Keep digging.....

smallwhitecat · 24/07/2007 12:34

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princessbride · 24/07/2007 12:35

theman you earlier quoted the following

"35% of rapes go unreported. (how can you know this if they are not reported?)"

Surely if you have studied criminal law you would know the answer to this , the fact you are asking how do they know this makes me think your a fake....its foundation course stuff

smallwhitecat · 24/07/2007 12:35

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NotQuiteCockney · 24/07/2007 12:37

Stranger rape is, of course, relatively rare. Based on stats I saw this weekend in the Guardian, in 81% of rapes, the victim and perpetrator had some contact before the rape.

princessbride · 24/07/2007 13:08

nqc....this stat is correct...eery isnt it

dayofftomorrow · 24/07/2007 13:29

There a quite a few women who go to walk in centres, pharmacies, sexual health clinics to request morning after pill, or hiv testing who will tell the medical people that it was rape but who do not wish to take it further on the legal side.

aloha · 24/07/2007 13:42

"I'm a lecturer of criminal law"

I don't think so sweetie!

aloha · 24/07/2007 13:46

he spells 'burgled' as 'burgalled'

Criminologist my arse.

BocoBeak · 24/07/2007 13:53

14% of posters wishing to make daft and sweeping statements about rape pretend to be criminal law lecturers to back up their arguments.

That's a fact.

I lecture in Random Studies at Blah Polytechnic.

aloha · 24/07/2007 13:54

We've seen off fake judges. Fake law lecturers are small fry.

Upwind · 24/07/2007 14:01

best point on this thread from batters
"I thought Universities stopped delivering lectures around, ooh, May time."

Can't believe I wasted my time responding to someone who gets his kicks from posting his fantasies on mumsnet.

theman · 24/07/2007 14:03

well no the FE1's are in september so all prospective solicitors are sitting summer courses to prepare for them.

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aloha · 24/07/2007 14:04

With the help of someone who can't spell burgled? How marvellous for the poor loves.

theman · 24/07/2007 14:05

ah yes, an informal internet chat forum. the last moral refuge of grammar and spelling.

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Jazzicatz · 24/07/2007 14:08

Oi you lot, I am a criminologist!!!!

princessbride · 24/07/2007 14:09

theman i suggest you forget about chat forums and go study because from what youve shown us today you are a lost cause and seriously need to go and read a few books related to your lectures so that you can actually deserve that wage packet you suggest you receive

smallwhitecat · 24/07/2007 14:09

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aloha · 24/07/2007 14:10

Oh come now, it's hardly an unfamiliar word to a proper law lecturer such as yourself. I mean, despite the fact that you clearly have no idea where crime statistics come from, and don't seem to realise that people are lecturers in rather than of, you must have read the word burgled from time to time.
But of course, if you were really a lecturer, despite being near illiterate and completely ignorant, that would be worrying. A troll is neither here nor there.

You aren't familiar with the name Steve Schindler, by any chance?

theman · 24/07/2007 14:11

"You aren't familiar with the name Steve Schindler, by any chance"

can't say that i am.why?

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princessbride · 24/07/2007 14:11

to aloha

aloha · 24/07/2007 14:13

Oh, just something that sprang to mind when I read your posts