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IABU? Thoroughly told off by another parent

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user27495824 · 03/06/2019 23:21

Had a real telling off from the mother of my dd's friend at the weekend and can't stop feeling uncomfortable about the whole thing. Would like to know if IWBU.

It was dd's 12th birthday. She invited 5 friends to the cinema. Invitation was via text, and was to meet at cinema in the evening, then back to our house for pizza and cake etc and to be picked up at 9pm, and if there was an issue with picking up to let me know and we could make arrangements to drop home. I sent all of the texts to parents except for one I didn't have the number of, and my daughter went ahead and text that friend directly before I had a chance to ask her for it. I didn't know until my daughter walked in on the phone asking 'Lily's mum said she probably does need taking home and can you pick her up too?' (answer was sorry no to taking, because we were going into the city much earlier). Lily's mum phones back again shortly after to ask if I would be providing cinema snacks (I did, but was a little taken back to be asked when I'd already said there would be food after, but prepared for that to be perfectly reasonable).

On the day, Lily and her mum were 15 minutes late. My daughter and the other friends all ran over to her and they all stood there hugging and chatting and I knew we'd miss the start of the film if we didn't go in at this point so I called over to hurry up and come and say your hello's inside. At this point the mum walked off and left, and the girls came in, so I didn't have the opportunity to speak to her.

I'm not entirely sure this is relevant, but Lily was quite rude, both before the film and on the way back to our house. I put it down to her being excited and shy. There was running round the cinema foyer when I'd asked them not to, ignoring some other things I'd said, not coming over when asked to, no basic manners etc.

When we got back to our house later, I asked Lily if she knew what the arrangements were for her going home later and did she need a lift, she said 'Well my mum brought me so I'm getting a lift home'. I asked her if her mum was expecting her back at a particular time, and she said no. I asked her if she had a phone incase her mum wanted to get in touch with her and she said yes, and held it up to me. I said as long as your mum can get hold of you, you can stay as long as the others. The others ended up staying later than 9 because of parents watching the Champions League final (which I didn't realise was on until the morning of).

Around 9:30 my daughter comes to tell me that Lily's mum is worried, wondering where she is and has text her. I got her number at this point and text her to say sorry she is worried, and about any miscommunication, she would be dropped off by 10 o'clock. 15 minutes later another of my daughter's friends comes in with Lily's mum on her phone asking to speak to me. She is raging, asking where her daughter is, said it's irresponsible, it's far too late, she's never had this at any other party, her daughter is only 12 years old and she needs to know where she is etc. She hadn't received my text. Her daughter hadn't replied to her messages because she had no data and she didn't think to tell me or ask for the WiFi.

I apologized profusely for her being worried, said I should have insisted on getting her number as our daughters obviously aren't quite old enough to communicate effectively. I sent a follow up apology text immediately after the phone call to say she was on her way back, and had no reply. Lily slammed the door shut on her way out and didnt even say thank you. But as above I'm putting that down to shyness (and maybe because I just asked her why on earth she didnt tell me her mum was messaging her, or asked to use a phone/WiFi).

I feel like sending Lily's mum another message to point out she should have come and confirmed drop off time and address at the cinema, is just as responsible as me for not exchanging numbers prior, and Lily should be responsible for some of my proportion of blame? I can understand her maybe over reacting due to worry, but to ignore my apology text once she knew she was safe I feel is very rude, but her attitude and lack of reply tells me maybe I'm the one who is more unreasonable?

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Bluerussian · 03/06/2019 23:25

You haven't done anything wrong. You and Lily's mum had wires crossed a bit but her mum is overreacting. Neither she nor Lily sound all that nice, actually.

Try not to think about it any more - easier said than done but this will pass.

CallMeRachel · 03/06/2019 23:27

Well that's one less party invite to dish out next year!! Confused

It was the mother's responsibility to make sure she had your contact details and firm arrangements made.

She sounds entitled and a CF.

Lily sounds like a brat. No basic manners by the age of 12 is ridiculous, there's no excuse.

IrregularCommentary · 03/06/2019 23:29

The mother's responsibility to know (and make!) arrangements for her own kid. Can't see that you did anything wrong.

Mummaofmytribe · 03/06/2019 23:30

Lily's mum should have asked her daughter to get your number and called you herself if she was getting concerned. Could have all been avoided if she'd been on time and swapped numbers before the movie. Apart from anything, that was her opportunity to say hello and thankyou to you. Which is usual behaviour when leaving your child with another parent!

Shopgirl1 · 03/06/2019 23:30

You haven’t done anything wrong. They both sound rude. I’d leave it now and not message her again.

SpeckleDust · 03/06/2019 23:31

Urgh. This is one of the reasons I try not to get involved with my DD’s social arrangements. Lily’s mum sounds like a bit of a nightmare. If she needed to be kept in the loop, she should have made sure she had your contact details from the start.

Move on and forget about this incident - I don’t think you did anything wrong.

livefornaps · 03/06/2019 23:31

Lily sounds like a feeble willed creature.

Just leave her and her mum to it.

Don't bother in future

Mummyshark2019 · 03/06/2019 23:35

Oh dear. What a delightful pair Lily and her mum sound like. Don't invite again and steer clear. They sound awful.

GreenTulips · 03/06/2019 23:35

Rude!! She obviously takes after her mother and wouldn’t get another invite.

It’s obvious if a message sent by WiFi is read or not and mum could’ve changed her meassage to text instead - or you know called her daughter!!

Ohyesiam · 03/06/2019 23:35

The rudest and most negative of dds friends she made in year 7 turned out to have, guess what? A rude and negative mother.
Luckily things find their own level and I’ve not had to see either of them for a couple of years.

It’s up to her to do what she needs to do to feel happy with the arrangement, which in this case was get your details. You did nothing wrong.

JustHereforHarriet · 03/06/2019 23:38

Data? To text?

EAIOU · 03/06/2019 23:39

I wouldn't invite her round again anytime soon.

Sounds like you went out of your way to give your DD a nice birthday and it was thrown back in your face.

arethereanyleftatall · 03/06/2019 23:40

Yanbu. You did nothing wrong. Avoid in the future.

ralphfromlordoftheflies · 03/06/2019 23:40

I'm annoyed that you apologised to her! You should have told her to jog the fuck on.

ohtheholidays · 03/06/2019 23:43

From the way the mother behaved you can see where her Daughter gets it from.

I wouldn't worry about it any longer and I agree with the PP don't send her an invite the next time.

PerspicaciaTick · 03/06/2019 23:43

I found there was a tricky period in y7&8 where I didn't know parents and DD and her friends only had one another's contact numbers.It was tricky to know what had actually been arranged and what had been communicated to other parents. We didn't always get it right and there was a bit of a learning curve. But we muddled through and survived without any major arguments.
The other mum and her DD sounds like pains, I'm not sure what they added to your DD's day - are they particularly close friends?

Hearthside · 03/06/2019 23:43

Entitled mum and equally entitled daughter .It was her responsibility to check details with her daughter, not yours .From the moment her daughter was rude to you that would be her off next years invite .I wouldn't txt to be honest but if her mum see's you and mentions it then you be quite within your right to have your say but apart from that chalk it down fact they ate two rude individuals.

CalmdownJanet · 03/06/2019 23:43

No leave it at this stage. You have apologised too much already, that told lily's mother she was right. The ship has sailed, you should have said
"Sorry for the misunderstanding, to be honest I would have expected you to speak to me at the cinema or for lily to mention she couldn't text you back. A miscommunication on all three of our parts really, no harm, she'll be home in 10 minutes, if you want to collect her feel free"

Lily obviously didn't lick her rudeness off a stone, chalk it down to experience I reckon

EL8888 · 03/06/2019 23:45

They both sound rude! They both should have communicated better and taken responsibility. I wouldn’t worry about it or spend much time thinking about it all.

JustHereforHarriet · 03/06/2019 23:45

She’s definitely in the wrong. Although Lily might have done her fair amount of bullshitting...

Wannabeyorkshirelass · 03/06/2019 23:46

You offered to drop kids home at 9 if their parents couldn't pick them up. Lily's mum asked you to do that. You then didn't drop her fairly young daughter home on time or make sure she'd been contacted.

I'm sorry but I think you were thoughtless.

ImNotHappyaboutitPauline · 03/06/2019 23:47

Yeah I don't think I'd be bothering too much with Lily anymore! Sounds like the apple didn't fall far from the tree in terms of manners Hmm.

Honesty at 12 I think you should be able to trust that the parents and child are able to communicate effectively with each other and if Lily's mum knows that's not the case then I think it's on her to ensure she herself is clear on the arrangements by contacting you direct.

I wouldn't send another text if she hasn't responded. I know it's tempting but really it wouldn't be helpful. If she does get around to replying and is arsey or you hear further via dd then yes, I'd point out that she and her dd have responsibility here. Oh and I would prefer not to invite her to things in the future as it seems it's really not worth the hassle.

SpeckofStardust · 03/06/2019 23:49

Put it down to ‘some rude, entitled people’, draw a line under it and don’t give it another thought. Definitely don’t send another message. You’ve apologized yet without having done anything wrong. She’s the rude one (and the apple didn’t fall far from the tree by the sound of it) and doesn’t deserve any more of your time.

user27495824 · 03/06/2019 23:52

I'm so relieved IANBU. I was worried I'd be called irresponsible because it was so late. Good point about the data, maybe she meant credit. Or my guess is she was ignoring her mum because they were hoping it would be turned into a sleepover. I feel hugely entitled venting this, but they didn't even bring so much as a birthday card 🤐.

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SleepingStandingUp · 03/06/2019 23:52

You offered to drop kids home at 9 if their parents couldn't pick them up. Lily's mum asked you to do that. You then didn't drop her fairly young daughter home on time or make sure she'd been contacted
No, kids were to be picked up at nine, or if thry couldn't, would be dropped off. Logic suggests she's not going to start driving kids home until the others have left.

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