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IABU? Thoroughly told off by another parent

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user27495824 · 03/06/2019 23:21

Had a real telling off from the mother of my dd's friend at the weekend and can't stop feeling uncomfortable about the whole thing. Would like to know if IWBU.

It was dd's 12th birthday. She invited 5 friends to the cinema. Invitation was via text, and was to meet at cinema in the evening, then back to our house for pizza and cake etc and to be picked up at 9pm, and if there was an issue with picking up to let me know and we could make arrangements to drop home. I sent all of the texts to parents except for one I didn't have the number of, and my daughter went ahead and text that friend directly before I had a chance to ask her for it. I didn't know until my daughter walked in on the phone asking 'Lily's mum said she probably does need taking home and can you pick her up too?' (answer was sorry no to taking, because we were going into the city much earlier). Lily's mum phones back again shortly after to ask if I would be providing cinema snacks (I did, but was a little taken back to be asked when I'd already said there would be food after, but prepared for that to be perfectly reasonable).

On the day, Lily and her mum were 15 minutes late. My daughter and the other friends all ran over to her and they all stood there hugging and chatting and I knew we'd miss the start of the film if we didn't go in at this point so I called over to hurry up and come and say your hello's inside. At this point the mum walked off and left, and the girls came in, so I didn't have the opportunity to speak to her.

I'm not entirely sure this is relevant, but Lily was quite rude, both before the film and on the way back to our house. I put it down to her being excited and shy. There was running round the cinema foyer when I'd asked them not to, ignoring some other things I'd said, not coming over when asked to, no basic manners etc.

When we got back to our house later, I asked Lily if she knew what the arrangements were for her going home later and did she need a lift, she said 'Well my mum brought me so I'm getting a lift home'. I asked her if her mum was expecting her back at a particular time, and she said no. I asked her if she had a phone incase her mum wanted to get in touch with her and she said yes, and held it up to me. I said as long as your mum can get hold of you, you can stay as long as the others. The others ended up staying later than 9 because of parents watching the Champions League final (which I didn't realise was on until the morning of).

Around 9:30 my daughter comes to tell me that Lily's mum is worried, wondering where she is and has text her. I got her number at this point and text her to say sorry she is worried, and about any miscommunication, she would be dropped off by 10 o'clock. 15 minutes later another of my daughter's friends comes in with Lily's mum on her phone asking to speak to me. She is raging, asking where her daughter is, said it's irresponsible, it's far too late, she's never had this at any other party, her daughter is only 12 years old and she needs to know where she is etc. She hadn't received my text. Her daughter hadn't replied to her messages because she had no data and she didn't think to tell me or ask for the WiFi.

I apologized profusely for her being worried, said I should have insisted on getting her number as our daughters obviously aren't quite old enough to communicate effectively. I sent a follow up apology text immediately after the phone call to say she was on her way back, and had no reply. Lily slammed the door shut on her way out and didnt even say thank you. But as above I'm putting that down to shyness (and maybe because I just asked her why on earth she didnt tell me her mum was messaging her, or asked to use a phone/WiFi).

I feel like sending Lily's mum another message to point out she should have come and confirmed drop off time and address at the cinema, is just as responsible as me for not exchanging numbers prior, and Lily should be responsible for some of my proportion of blame? I can understand her maybe over reacting due to worry, but to ignore my apology text once she knew she was safe I feel is very rude, but her attitude and lack of reply tells me maybe I'm the one who is more unreasonable?

OP posts:
user27495824 · 03/06/2019 23:57

@wannabeyorkshirelass Technically I didn't. It was to collect at 9, or let me know if thats a problem and we will work out dropping off and we didn't actually fine tune the details for that or set a time for drop offs, but I agree that is the crux of the miscommunication.

OP posts:
Skittlesandbeer · 03/06/2019 23:58

*CalmDownJanet

Lily obviously didn't lick her rudeness off a stone* Grin

I absolutely LOVE this phrase, never heard or read it before. Perfect description of this situation. Round my parts we’d say ‘she’s a chip off the old block’ but I’m changing to yours now.

Right, off to message it to all my teacher friends!

(Would love to hear how common it is in what regions, but loathe to derail any further!)

ImNotHappyaboutitPauline · 03/06/2019 23:59

Actually wannabe Lily's mum didn't ask Op to do that. The only direct communication they had per OP was about cinema snacks (!!) and note OP checked with Lily if she knew what the arrangements were after they got back to hers (understandable given Lily and her mum were 15 mins late for drop off). So no, arrangements hadn't been set in stone and if the other mum is that prone to concern then she was BU to depend entirely on her 12 year old for information rather than get OPs number.

GreenTulips · 04/06/2019 00:00

But isn’t that plainly obvious? If others get collected at 9 then they stop and say thank you collect their belongings etc - it’s going to be well after 9 when you can even consider dropping kids off.

Most parents tend to be pleased their kids have friends who treat them well and the occasional late night isn’t an issue

I’ll bet £30 your DD works all this out for herself and Lily will be old news but he ends for he year

MoreCookiesPlease · 04/06/2019 00:03

Rude child, rude mum. The onus was on her to talk to you and clarify plans at drop off.

YANBU.

Try to forget all about it (easier said than done though. I'd be fuming.)
Flowers

CalmdownJanet · 04/06/2019 00:15

Skittlesandbeer Grin I am Irish, it's a saying I would say is pretty common here, I definitely grew up with my mam/granny saying it. Use away Grin

yermawyabas · 04/06/2019 01:12

@CalmdownJanet my mum says this (she's Irish)

FrenchBoule · 04/06/2019 01:31

OP, don’t apologise anymore. Maybe there was a misunderstanding but I can’t think who would send their child somewhere without credit on the phone.

ilikemethewayiam · 04/06/2019 01:43

What were you apologising for in the first place?

HappyEverIftar · 04/06/2019 02:25

It sounds to me the mum got in a fluster because she didn't finalise the details properly, got frustrated with Lily's lack of response during the evening and took it out on you once contact was finally made.

Don't give it another thought.

PregnantSea · 04/06/2019 02:27

I would avoid Lily's mum from now on. She sounds like a bloody nightmare. If lily is involved in social arrangements in the future I would stay well out of it - don't do drop offs or pick ups for her. If her mum wants to drop her off at something you are doing then fine, but don't make any special allowances. If her mum calls you in a rage don't apologise, just tell her firmly she needs to come and collect her daughter immediately and please don't call you again because she obviously isn't capable of having a grown up conversation.

TeddybearBaby · 04/06/2019 04:14

The the data thing, my daughter has a pay as you go and can’t text unless she has data when she has run out of credit so that could be it...... also iMessages are sent via the Internet so she’d have needed data or WiFi for that.

You haven’t done anything wrong and I’m struggling to communicate how rude this woman was! I’d be beyond grateful if you offered to drop my child home after a party. My son is in year 7 and 12 and I’m finding it tricky to not get involved so much and I do have some of the mums numbers but I definitely put the onus on the child to take a lot more responsibility at that age and I’d expect my son to keep me in the loop. Please try to forget it now x

Dana28 · 04/06/2019 05:19

I think you should have got lilys mums phone number from your dd from the off.
Bear in mind she is only 11 or 12, and seems young for her age. you know nothing about her and her family know nothing about you. Do they even know where you live? I think it's natural for her to have been worried tbh. You saw fit to make parent to parent arrangements with all the other guests. Youshould have got lilys mums number too.

PutyourtoponTrevor · 04/06/2019 05:48

Maybe they should've turned up on time then?

NauseousMum · 04/06/2019 05:53

If she was that worried why didn't she call her dd??? She should have got your number and been on bloody time.

She sounds like an idiot, don't apologise anymore or bother with her.

chamenanged · 04/06/2019 05:54

Lily's mum phones back again shortly after to ask if I would be providing cinema snacks (I did, but was a little taken back to be asked when I'd already said there would be food after, but prepared for that to be perfectly reasonable).

And she didn't say at this point: are you sure it's okay to bring her back, what are the arrangements, thank you very much, etc? The first you heard from her about the lift you'd agreed to give her child after hosting her was when she phoned a random other twelve year old's phone to rant at you, even though she had your number? Plus she was fifteen minutes late to drop off and she only waited half an hour after the end of the party to go mad at you?

She's just an arsehole. Really, some people just are and you can't mitigate for it.

Oblomov19 · 04/06/2019 05:56

Sounds horrendous. She sounds like a One!!

Even I had nice texts from 4 mums, pre sleepover on CL night. The other mums I don't know, but the boys are older, so it was fine.

MaybeitsMaybelline · 04/06/2019 06:00

Rude, rud, rude. Both of them.

Don’t give it a second thought, really.

Seriously I highly doubt your DD and Lily will still be friends in a couple of years. These sort of personality traits have shown themselves a few times by then.

AlaskanOilBaron · 04/06/2019 06:01

Jesus what a coarse woman. Give her a wide berth.

Sweetpea55 · 04/06/2019 06:05

Slamming doors is nothing to do with shyness. It's bloody rude and a bad attitude which sounds like Lily has inherited from her mum
YANBU

CigarsofthePharoahs · 04/06/2019 06:12

Yanbu.
Interesting that she expects her daughter to be brought home at exactly 9pm but CBA to show up on time herself.
A sensible parent would phone up and ask about drop off arrangements. Not rely on a potentially flaky 12 year old who may or may not have full use of her phone.

mybigsis · 04/06/2019 06:19

The Apple did t fall far from the tree with lily!

Lllot5 · 04/06/2019 06:21

Both of them very rude. Only thing I could say is maybe ask for the Mum’s details from the first from your daughter. But don’t worry about it, you know not to invite them next year at least.
Hope she hadn’t been drinking if she was watching the footie.

Asta19 · 04/06/2019 06:27

I’m not making excuses for lily or her mums behaviour but just to offer a different perspective, you don’t always know what the dynamics are at home. I was invited to a friends for tea when I was a bit younger than that. The dad was going to drop me home after work at 7. He got home but was starving so said to me he was just going to eat his dinner first then drop me back. A short while later my dad phoned the house to speak to me and said “no he needs to bring you back right now”. I can still remember how mortified I felt saying “my dad said you need to take me home now”. Needless to say I never got invited back. But my dad was abusive and controlling. There are many other examples where my parents were CF’s. So I ended up never being invited anywhere and had no real friends.

I’m not saying this is the case here and you’ve done nothing wrong. It just makes me a bit sad when kids suffer because the parents are assholes, because I’ve been there.

Wallywobbles · 04/06/2019 06:36

Do point out to your DD what behavior was inappropriate though. So she knows how to be a good guest.