School possibly gave my details to abusive ex.

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Just had an email from school saying that they are using a new app called sims to deal with all personal info etc.
Signed up and logged in and it has my emails, phone numbers address plus all my partners details as he is down as an emergency contact.
It also shows me all my ex’s details.

My ex is a nasty piece of work and as a result the only way he has of contacting me is one email address.
If he has been sent this link as well they have handed him all mine and my partners details and he is going to have a field day!
Obviously as it’s half term no one is answering the school phones so I have no way of knowing if he has my details or not!

FamilyOfAliens your attitude is shocking. The school have made an error which could potentially put people in danger and you do not care one bit

Oh do fuck off, elshiva.

You have no idea how frightening it is for a family who have escaped DV to hear that their abuser may have found them.

Of course it is, but as there is no joy to be had with the school being closed, the only other thing to do would be whatever one would do if the leak was from another source. Contact the police/SS.

elshiva
Are you just trying to whip up controversy or an argument?

If there is a safeguarding emergency then there's social services, the out of hours social services line, the police.

It's not like school being closed means there's no way to respond. It just means that (somewhat unsurprisingly) the staff who work term time only are off work in their holidays, just like anyone else who is off work on holiday.

I'm really glad that they've not given your details out IO.

If he has PR and no court order in place, and you gave the school his details as already stated, then the school have not done anything wrong. It makes no difference if you have told them he is abusive, there is no Legal Documentation informing the school that he is not to be contacted. And before any MN trolls start, i have had similar issues at school which were only resolved once a Court Order was put in place.

My ex has pr and is a danger to Ds if he turns up. Head said same as @xmas2020 however did understand the risk and agreed if he ever turned up at school they would delay and contact me.

They didn’t have any details of him though

Are you just trying to whip up controversy or an argument?
No! I am genuinely surprised that there is no point of contact for a school during the holidays.

No! I am genuinely surprised that there is no point of contact for a school during the holidays.

Then contact your LEA with some sensible suggestions for how to deal with that, rather than blaming school staff for not making themselves available to parents during their unpaid holidays.

No! I am genuinely surprised that there is no point of contact for a school during the holidays.
A bit of backtracking there.
If only you'd said that 'oh I'm surprised there isn't a point of contact during the holidays' instead of going on like staff are failing families, putting families in danger and accusing people who've pointed out staff contracts of clearly not having a clue and not caring.

I wouldn't believe them when they say he doesn't have access to your details. I would be getting that in writing with a technical explanation of how it isn't possible- after all, you have his when you shouldn't. I think you're being fobbed off.

Well I’m not paid in the school holidays and if I knew someone was worried/scared about something my school had potentially done I would do anything I could to ease their worries. Not point out that I’m not paid so it’s not my problem (six times on the same thread),

Well I’m not paid in the school holidays and if I knew someone was worried/scared about something my school had potentially done I would do anything I could to ease their worries. How would you know? Do you have your personal contact details on sme global "Contact me" board? No teacher/school worker has said they would not help. They have just said that, for a few reasons, the could not help. Only you turned that into a personal attack on one poster!

Not point out that I’m not paid so it’s not my problem (six times on the same thread) That is, as many have pointed out, your interpretation. Time to wind your neck in and admit the possibility that you read the room wrong!

Well I’m not paid in the school holidays and if I knew someone was worried/scared about something my school had potentially done I would do anything I could to ease their worries. Not point out that I’m not paid so it’s not my problem (six times on the same thread),
So being deliberately obtuse then. Good to know.

People probably wouldn't know, because they wouldn't be contactable by work methods. And we wouldn't be using work contact methods because we aren't paid to be in work. Namely if people are on their holiday they are not going to be staffing work contacts just in case someone contacts them. It's not rocket science.

The likelihood is that the LA/social services might have a contact for a senior member of staff they could contact if they needed to, but things don't fall apart when schools are closed because there are other agencies.

So how about you stop having a cheap shot at school staff for not being on call during their holidays.

CuriousaboutSamphire
Cross posted with you. I agree.
I think we have some goading going on here

If someone sent the email out in the half term, someone was working in half term. It's stupid to do something like this if there is not going to be someone available to sort out problems.

OP, I'm glad it all turned out OK in your case!

I’m not sure why you think I’m goading? A teacher said that they would not be happy to be contacted about this because they were on their holidays. I don’t agree with that attitude.

Then contact your LEA with some sensible suggestions for how to deal with that
I don’t need to, my children’s schools have someone monitoring emails throughout the holidays, which is why I am surprised that something similar is not in place for the OPs school.

As I said several pages ago, they print out a sheet of all the info they hold on a child to give to the main carer to check. As they did.

Elisheva, a normal run of the mill teacher has no input to Sims.

I know, but they might be able to contact someone who does.

I know, but they might be able to contact someone who does. I'll ask again, how would they know someone had a problem? The poster you refer was answering the suggestion that someone on the board of governors could contact a teacher to respond. She is right. No teacher would consider that in any way an appropriate thing to happen.

You read a poster say she be unable to help as she would be on holiday: not reading emails, no access to support staff, also on holiday, no access to the SIM anyway. You took that to mean she woudn't help! She was pointing out that all any teacher could do would be to report to SS, or other agency, as they would have no input tothe SIM at all!

When she said she was not paid to work on holiday she prefaced that with the fact that, as she was on holiday, not being paid to monitor eails etc, all her school communication was switched off, not being looked at.

Only you have read that as a dereliction of duty, a reprehensible attitude. Only you!

She said she would not happy to be contacted about this. And it’s not only me, on the first page someone else challenged this attitude.

I used to be on a board of governors. The only contact details I had for any member of school staff was the official school telephone numbers/emails. It’s feasible the chair might have the head’s personal email address but not necessarily.

I had a HUGE Safeguarding issue crop up the day school broke up one half term so huge it involved the police & social services. School were contacted by the police the day they broke up. During half term there was not able to be any further contact. The head phoned the Sunday before the stFf were in for inset (having presumably got back from holuday & checked messages.

FoA I doubt a teacher would have had anything to do with a new school information system and I very doubt they’d be happy to be contacted by a governor when they’re not working

OtherPoster I’d like to think that any teacher if they were contacted about something that was time critical and could endanger a family, wouldn’t think twice about passing on a message to someone who could help 1 post

You That's a disgusting attitude* etc, etc etc

Now read Comefromaways post... that's why any teacher would be unhappy to be contacted by a governor, they shouldn't have staff's own contact details. And staff turn off, don't use school comms during holidays.

At the secondary school where dh works there is a member of admin staff in doing restricted hours during the main summer holiday. During half terms they might do the odd morning to catch up on admin or something.

In primary schools there is rarely anyone in during half terms (I used to hire school facilities at weekends and holidays and never saw a soul in primaries, in secondaries there was always office staff in.)

She said she would not happy to be contacted about this.

If that’s me you’re still wittering on about elishiva, I said a teacher would not be happy to be contacted in the school holidays. I’m not a teacher.

I am, however, frequently asked to attend child protection conferences in school holidays. I always decline. This does not mean I am not willing to help, it means I respect my own professional boundaries and expect others to do the same.