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Husband's affair

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Ihaveasorehead · 31/05/2019 05:09

Okay, so not really an AIBU post but rather "I have been unreasonable and now I need to fix it post". So I am in my late 20s, have been with DH for 12 years and married for 10. We have 2 children aged 5 and 6. DH has been my only partner, I have no real family support - he has been my emotional support and best friend for many years and I genuinely do love him. I found out a year ago that DH was having an emotional affair with a work colleague. He promised to end it and we went to counselling. A couple of months later, I discovered he was still seeing her. He gave me a 15 point list of why the affair was my fault. I was devastated - these were really personal issues relating to my childhood (he says I am damaged and no one will want me), my weight (I am a size 12), my best friend and the fact that I had the audacity to shock horror work (the same number of hours he did, I might add). The other woman had, without my knowledge, been introduced to our children and had even assisted DH in picking the little one up from nursery. I felt sick to my stomach and like I had been replaced in every way. My initial reaction was to end it, however, in counselling we talked it over and I decided I could deal with it provided that the affair really had ended. It bothered me a lot during this time that DH was never really remorseful, however our counsellor suggested he may not be ready to feel remorse and to stick with it, work on his issues and essentially "put a pin in" my need to deal with the affair. It wasn't easy but I did that and there was a real improvement. The other woman left to work elsewhere, married her partner and DH eventually started to try and engage with my feelings about the affair. There was a brief period where I really felt it was working.

All of a sudden, about 7 months after my initial discovery, he started blaming me again for the affair and it turned out that it had restarted. He quit couples counselling and left me for the other woman (who ultimately decided to stay with her own husband). DH was remorseful and would come round crying and begging for another chance, saying he was suicidal etc. and thay he really loved me. I really wanted to make it work, I was worried about him, and, although he stayed living elsewhere, we continued to have a relationship albeit at a distance. The other woman got in touch with me, apologising, swearing they hadn't had sex and telling me it was over. (Her husband is staying with her - she seems to have told him that my DH threatened her into being with him and that she was "terrified" of DH. I don't believe that and she as good as admitted to me that she had spun her husband a line.) I told other woman that I forgave her, that she had not made any vows to me, that it sounded like she had a lot of issues that I sympathised with, but ultimately was quite forceful in asking her not to contact me again.

DH promised me the affair was over, that they had never had sex etc. He said he was at a low point but ultimately has gone on to make positive changes such as getting a job he enjoys and voluntarily attending counselling himself. We continued to have a relationship but again, at a distance.

Last month, he told me that he and other woman had sex together multiple times (including unprotected oral sex) including in my home, but swearing it was never in my bed. I booked an STD check and was completely and utterly devastated, however I was encouraged that, for the first time, he was being honest with me off his own back. I took the step of starting looking at a divorce and he told me other woman had agreed to sign an affadvait admitting everything (allowing me to get a divorce on the basis of adultery). I paid the fees, and he assured me he would sign an affadavit although he loved me and wanted to make it work, but ultimately the other woman changed her mind about singing her affadavit. Fortunately, DH sent me screenshots of messages from her admitting to adultery with him that I can use as evidence instead. For the first time, DH seemed to be taking full responsibility and was very caring and attentive to my needs. Although I continued looking into the divorce, I had hoped that his honesty was a sign that we could make it work.

Last night, DH told me he has been seeing other woman up until a month ago, that they had been having sex in his house and that he has been having sex with her in my bed and in my house (unfortunately he has to retain a set of keys to my flat since my work pattern means he comes round to take over childcare while kids are sleeping). I feel violated that he put me at risk of STDs and my privacy feels utterly non-existent, especially thinking of her with my husband in my bed or with my kids. It also turns out that they have been seeing one another and having sex at times when I had been told the relationship between them was over.

I feel utterly worn down by the situation and know I just cannot take it anymore. I feel completely broken and also so stupid that I have let myself be treated like this for so long. I feel so sorry for the other woman's husband (he's only 22 and seems to have been utterly duped by her and genuinely thinks she is wonderful). I am terrified of being a single parent (especially with no family support) but most importantly, I know I really, really do love this man (in spite of everything). I have been working on myself and am starting to realise that I really struggle to enforce and maintain personal boundaries (physical and emotional).

I know I have been unreasonable in putting up with DH's behaviour and feel very very foolish. Going forward, I want to be stronger and be able to respect myself more, and not put myself in situations where I am not emotionally or physically secure. However, I love him - he is funny and I enjoy his company, we have a long shared history and I believe there is still a good person under there somewhere. I miss him so much when he is not here and find myself torturing myself over and over with the details I know about his affair, trying to make sense of it and trying to understand what I could have done differently. I drive myself mad. I am also financially insecure and do not have a strong support network. I struggle to concentrate at work and I feel like a rubbish parent who is letting my children down for exposing them to this awful situation. I wanted them to grow up with a secure family unit and it hurts to realise how badly I have failed. I struggle to sleep, I am irritable and cry all the time. I feel so ashamed. My stomach plays up seemingly constantly and I get chest pains frequently. Every time I think I have my feet on solid ground, it disintegrates. I feel like I am struggling to tell the difference between what is real in our relationship and what is not.

So I am asking please, never having gone through a break up before, for your best tips on how to stay sane and how to stay strong. How do I enforce my boundaries so that I am protected from further pain? How do I make sure my kids are happy and that I keep my job? How do I stop myself from missing, turning to and relying on this man? How do I stay strong when he is adamant he lives me and wants to be with me? How do I weather the cyclical phases when he blames me for everything and is incredibly nasty? How do I take this forward?

OP posts:
MinisterforCheekyFuckery · 31/05/2019 11:01

What a pathetic, weak, selfish excuse for a man he is. He cheated on you, had the audacity to claim that his affair was your fault and showed no remorse whatsoever for the hurt he caused you until his OW ditched him and then he manipulated you into taking him back with threats of suicide. You gave him chance after chance, you wanted to believe that there was good in him despite all evidence to the contrary, and how does he repay you? He fucks another woman in your bed. He truly is the lowest of the low, OP.

You need to know that this won't be the end of it. He will continue to lie to you, to try to manipulate you, to exploit your good nature, because that's what abusers do. I agree with pp who suggested the Freedom Programme. Also Google the cycle of domestic abuse, it will help you to make sense of what you've experienced. Even if he has never laid a hand on you, he is an abuser make no mistake about that.

I understand your predicament with regard to childcare but you are right to look into alternatives as this piece of shit has forfeited any right to set foot in your home and cannot be trusted. Is there any way you could move back to your home town where your support network is? Or is there a sympathetic manager at your work who might agree to a change of hours if they knew what was going on? You shouldn't have to risk losing your job in order to get out of an abusive marriage.

LakieLady · 31/05/2019 11:17

So sorry you're having to go through this.

First things first: you haven't failed, he has. He failed to honour the vows he made and he has behaved like a complete shit. He has behaved especially appallingly by his repeated lying and subsequent "confessions" that were, at best, only half truths. It must have felt reliving a nightmare with each and every revelation.

I think, as others have said, that you should keep your contact with him to the bare minimum and get your relationship onto a more formal footing. I realise that this will be difficult because of childcare and your work pattern, but it will be worth it, even if you have to change jobs. All the time he is spending time in your home and you are having contact with him, it will be harder for you to heal. It's like picking at a scab.

Do you have RL friends for support? That can make a huge difference.

Getting over this sort of shock and heartbreak takes time, lots of it. Be kind to yourself and accept that it will pass, in time, and that you will ultimately be the stronger for it.

Jocastafantastica1 · 31/05/2019 11:35

He isn't good enough for you. You are scared because you haven't known anyone else and have nothing to compare this relationship to. Just because he is able to demonstrate positive qualities doesn't make him worthy of your love - everyone is generally capable of this, even mass murderers.
You are going to be lost and unsure for a short period that is true, but then this could be the best thing to ever happen to you. Don't waste another moment on him.

jameswong · 31/05/2019 11:47

What an absolute prick. Good luck and positive energy OP

QueenofPain · 31/05/2019 11:54

You haven’t failed, your husband has. You can’t internalise his behaviour as being your fault. I’m sure that’s what he’d like, to pass some of the responsibility on to others. But it is not your fault, keep reminding yourself that. All you can do now is to work to have the absolute smoothest transition for you and your kinds into your new life.

It won’t always hurt like this, one day there will be enough water under the bridge that you’ll be able to see him for the pathetic piece of shit he is. Keep your eye on that prize. You will be happy again.

QueenofPain · 31/05/2019 11:55

*kids

user1471449295 · 31/05/2019 12:02

He is utter utter scum. He will always be like this. He will never be faithful. He has the morals of an alley cat. In your home? In your bed? Angry
Divorce him. It may feel scary, but I promise you, your life WILL improve. You will be happy again. He is banking on you feeling weak and putting up with his bollocks.

Qsandmore · 31/05/2019 12:55

Do you have friend/family support just not where you moved for his work?

If so go home sweetheart, just leave with the kids and go home. Work, school, everything can be sorted from that point in. But you need clear blue water between you and this situation to ever get sorted out and separate.

Oh and your counsellor was bloody awful!

TheSerenDipitY · 31/05/2019 13:00

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wonderinwhy · 31/05/2019 13:49

You sound like a wonderful lady OP. Keep posting on here for support. Can you find another job back near your support network. You don’t have to stay in this current town. You have a right to support. You now get to do what’s best for you and the kids. Could you pick the kids up at 6am and transfer them to his house? Or speak to your workplace and see if you can change your hours? Are you claiming all the benefits you can and is he paying maintenance?

Nyon · 31/05/2019 14:08

Lots of good advice here OP - I’d suggest making a list and sorting out where to go next.

Secondly - a ‘good man’ doesn’t blame his partner for his inability to keep his cock out of other women. You are enough as a person - he isn’t. Show your children what it means to be a strong woman. You are setting their example - you deserve better.

ShartGoblin · 31/05/2019 14:48

our counsellor suggested he may not be ready to feel remorse and to stick with it, work on his issues and essentially "put a pin in" my need to deal with the affair

I'm horrified at this. Utterly despicable advise from a couples counselor. Where was your support? Perhaps if your needs had been addressed at any point you might not have put up with this shit for so long. You deserve better OP Flowers

WhatsInAName19 · 31/05/2019 14:58

It will be painful to divorce, but it cannot possibly be more painful than the constant repeated betrayals, dishonesty, blaming and then false declarations of love just to keep you dangling on the end of the line. This is no kind of life. You and your kids deserve so much better.

whatthehe11 · 31/05/2019 17:43

This is going to sound harsh but you need to keep in mind that deep down you're now his back up plan. He has shown you repeatedly that he actually wants to be with her - he left you and only came back because she rejected him.

Sorry you're going through this.

spellingtest · 01/06/2019 07:04

How are you doing OP?

Ihaveasorehead · 01/06/2019 07:32

Thank you all for the advice and support, which I really do appreciate.

I have asked him for my keys back (and he did actually hand them over) and I have made a tentative plan for taking childcare forward in the mornings where the kids will get up a bit earlier and go to his when I am leaving. Ironically, the only reason I have to leave so early is because I changed my working hours to accommodate his job, but working these hours means I am available to pick the boys up from nursery/after school.

In terms of moving back to where I am from, I do have friends and a younger brother there (and parents but I haven't spoken to my mum or dad for 5 years and 19 years respectively). I don't have the finances to move home straight away and I do like where I am at the moment (the kids are settled, rent is cheaper and I am not far from a forest, which is good for the boys). My brother is going to come round today though, so that's something.
I also took the step of sending the paperwork for the divorce off to the sherriff officers yesterday.
Dh took his own paperwork etc. with him when he moved out (he's literally right round the corner) in February so I have not been able to go through it but at this stage, I feel like very little would surprise me. He came round last night to see the boys and was brandishing a letter he has written to other woman's husband to tell him he has been having sex with other woman since they got married. Probably just as well Jeremy Kyle is off air at the moment or that may have been where this ended up...
Thank you all very much for your support!

OP posts:
cptartapp · 01/06/2019 07:44

How the hell does he find the time for all this infidelity when he's two young children? You need to ask him which half of the week he wants to juggle sole 24/7 responsibility of his 5 and 6 year old with his other commitments. And tell his parents everything.

wonderinwhy · 01/06/2019 08:16

Brandishing a letter? For what purpose? Why does he feel a need to write a letter? You know what, who cares. It’s not your problem anymore. He seems completely caught up in himself. That’s extremely strange behaviour and sounds like he’s trying to get a reaction out of you. Don’t give it to him. If I was you, I wouldn’t be letting him come round to visit the kids. No more small talk. If he wants to see the kids, he picks them up and takes them to his place and drops them back. No chat with you. Basic hello and goodbye and he doesn’t get to pass the doorstep. You need to set firm boundaries as he sees you as his property and a pushover. I’m glad you filed those papers. You changed your working hours to suit his job and moved to suit his job. It’s always been you facilitating him. He’s getting a huge power trip from hurting you like this so take the power away. He doesn’t get access to you anymore.

Theworldisfullofgs · 01/06/2019 08:46

Honestly, he sounds like a wanker.

whatthehe11 · 01/06/2019 08:49

@wonderinwhy letter I suspect is so he can split up the ow's marriage too.

Acrasia · 01/06/2019 10:50

I am so glad to hear you are taking steps to change things. It might be daunting, but it will also be empowering. Flowers

BellaBellaBelle · 01/06/2019 11:43

You sound very strong op. I think you are handling things amazingly well.

Shallowhals · 01/06/2019 12:01

This is incredibly sad OP Sad this man has behaved appallingly and treated you with nothing but contempt yet there you are blaming yourself just as he wants you to. This is NOT your fault, you didn’t mess anything up - he did. He’s toxic and you need to divorce and build your self esteem back up as it must be in tatters.

You’re still young, too young to stick with this vile creature any longer. If you struggle to maintain your boundaries I would think of your children and the lessons you’re teaching them by taking your husband back. You haven’t failed your children at all, their dad has but if you continue to show them that it’s ok to let people treat you like shit then you will have failed them. They could well follow in your footsteps - tolerating abusive behavior in future relationships as it will be normal to them.

It will be hard but you can do this, stay strong Flowers

Shallowhals · 01/06/2019 12:04

Ughhh why would he tell you about that letter? He sounds like a fucking idiot. A bitter sad wanker that will hopefully end up alone.

spellingtest · 01/06/2019 17:38

So glad you are getting practical things done and so so pleased your brother is coming to support you too.

How are you feeling?

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