BoJo 'lied and mislead' the public

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No shit Sherlock. Hope he gets more than a slap on the wrist the damage he's done.

Oh and it's misled not mislead.

I am no fan of Boris but you can't seriously expect courts to decide what is a lie in the context of politics

The 35O million a week is a factual, statement he has made. it is not subjective. It is not a matter of opinion.

There is no way to look at it and say we pay this. So yes I believe if someone in a position of power deliberately misleads the public over something as serious as this, then they should be held to account. And the courts can do it. When it's a factual statement like this. It wasn't "I think aliens exist" or anything subjective. He repeatedly gave a number and built a campaign on it.

The question is did he know it was not correct when he repeatedly said it? And the answer to that would be yes, as both before and after he explained the numbers correctly.

However that's what the court case is. It's not my call. Innocent till proven guilty. Did he deliberately lie. Did he know it wasn't true when he said that's what we paid and we should give it to thr nhs instead.

So yes, if courts can't hold our politicians accountable for misleading the public whilst in public office, then who the fuck can. That way lies a corrupt state.

Not for me thanks.ill pass.

He won’t be prosecuted. It would mean every election, parties would need to follow through on their ‘promises’ . Corbyn would be stuffed for a start

Anyone within the M25 would not have believed him after his truly abysmal performance as Mayor of London.

I think he is very very clever but very dangerous. It has been interesting watching all the Tory Leadership candidates being interviewed on GMB, some of them I wonder why they are bothering?
(Rory Stewart seems quite impressive)

The reason some of them are bothering is not because they wish to be or think they will be prime minister. It's to secure a cabinet job, Esther mcvey is a prime example of this.

She will make a lot of noise, then throw her hat behind the person she thinks will win, and hope that by doing that she secures another cabinet position.

It's calculated, manipulative and unpleasant, but that's what it is.

What we need is a new form of politics where all politicians tell the truth and answer questions directly.

My pet hate is when they don't directly answer a question that could have a yes or no answer. How hard is it to answer a question with a 'Yes' or a 'No' and then justify the answer? We know they are going to justify and waffle - just do it after giving us the bloody answer.

If Boris Johnson is prosecuted yet Tony Blair isn't (for taking us into an illegal war with a 'sexed-up' dossier) that would be a travesty.

We know they are going to justify and waffle - just do it after giving us the bloody answer.

But how would you feel if they could simply make up facts and figures, and present it as fact. And not be held accountable? That is what would happen if Boris isn't taken to court. We would then know.100 percent. It's ok to lie. Like some third world dictatorship and it's ok to quote Rees mogg, for them to "exaggerate" the numbers when they see fit.

This man is wishing to be our prime minister. Shouldn't he have some integrity? Don't we want our politicians accountable?

Have we learned nothing from the likes of tony Blair?

Self-serving, power-crazed venal shitbag

I've got a whole compendium of blistering invective that I reserve for the likes of Johnson and Gove. This is a most welcome addition!

His cross-examination could be fun. On TV when he's asked an awkward question he really doesn't handle it well and tries to bluster and joke or answer a completely different question. I can't see any good QC or judge letting him get away with that.

I really dislike the twee nicknames people give him. It subconsciously makes him appear jolly and light hearted. He isn’t. He is ruthless. He is Johnson, like Trump, May or Corbyn.

I don't get the politicians lie so what attitude. Yes they all lie and spin the truth but it doesn't mean they shouldn't be held accountable. Perhaps if they are, then there won't be so many barefaced lies in future

If Boris Johnson is prosecuted yet Tony Blair isn't (for taking us into an illegal war with a 'sexed-up' dossier) that would be a travesty.

Exactly. And presumably Alastair Campbell will also be prosecuted. Will Corbyn be had up for lying about tuition fees?

I don't get the politicians lie so what attitude. Yes they all lie and spin the truth but it doesn't mean they shouldn't be held accountable. Perhaps if they are, then there won't be so many barefaced lies in future

Well said. And I also don't get the " but what about him or him or him". That doesn't mean Boris shouldn't be held accountable. Just because someone else lied.

And this lie is a simple one to prove. Did he know the numbers he was building his brexit campaign on where over inflated and a lie. That's all they need to prove. That he had rhe right numbers and knew it was a lie and as such deliberately misled the british public to get enough of them to vote to leave.

South giving an opinion or an objective can’t be prosecuted in the same way as this provable factual lie. Surely you can see the difference? (Although it would be nice to hold the, to higher standards). Corbyn didn’t lie about tuition fees, by the way. He said Labour would remove fees if elected - they haven’t been. He said it would be an objective to try to remove debt but that he couldn’t promise that as it hadn’t been costed.

That bloody garden bridge project - 161k for a website! £21 million for building contracts - when nothing was ever built? £53 million wasted with nothing to show.

It absolutely beggars belief.

If this is what Boris calls oversight of a project, then he’s not fit to be PM.

Cardibach ok well not Corbyn then but what about Blair and Alistair Campbell and the Iraq War?

Blair and Campbell I think also hard to Prove because you'd have to prove they conclusively and absolutely knew there were no weapons of mass destruction. That's way, way more complicated.

This one is simple. It's a one off fact. He built his case, with the bloody bus, saying how much we paid, and to give it to the nhs and other such nonsense,

Did he have the real numbers. Did he know it was not correct and over inflated it on purpose. That's simple enough to prove.

The remain side kept saying it, but so many people believed him. They believed the 350 a week and the nhs crap he was spouting.

I don't get the politicians lie so what attitude. Yes they all lie and spin the truth but it doesn't mean they shouldn't be held accountable. Perhaps if they are, then there won't be so many barefaced lies in future

And yet none of them are held accountable.

The courts have even said that their election promises/manifestos are not binding in anyway.

For years politicians have 'cheated' systems that they have created, they have put loopholes in place that they can exploit.

They are for the most part (there are some good ones out there) self serving scum.

Its just a shame that its taken so long for so many people to realise it.

Bojo sounds just as bad as samcam

The name of course

Has anyone read the courts judgement ?

www.judiciary.uk/judgments/marcus-ball-v-alexander-boris-de-pfeffel-johnson/

There is a lot more to this case than a bus.

And the guy who brought the private prosecution used £50k of the £370k crowdfunded money on cakes, a flat in canary wharf and self defence classes...such integrity there

Lying to the public in the matter of a referendum is a terrible crime. End of.

Apologies if this has been covered as I haven't rtft, but if he is found 'guilty' does this mean there would have to be a 2nd referendum because of misleading the public with false evidence etc?