to think chavy, tacky hen parties should SOD off [Edited by MNHQ at OP's request]

[CannoninD]

I’m fed up.
I’ve lived in my beautiful, respectful and historic city my entire life .... but over the last year it’s been invaded by GOD AWFUL hen parties!

20+ strong groups of horrifically common (referring to behaviour not social class) women who inflict their horrific behaviour on everybody within reach.

They’re EVERYWHERE and I know it’s not just me as there are sunbstantial concerns being raised by residents all over the city.

I counted 23 large groups this weekend (I only walked into the (small ish) city centre on Saturday morning and witnessed the following behaviour-

• Loud swearing (F and C word) right in front of/across young families and children just trying to enjoy a day out.
• Shop doors slammed in elderly shoppers faces (too busy pratting around to pay any attention).
• Stock being damaged by pratting about (and then hidden) to avoid paying.
• Horrifically vulgar and inappropriate content being loudly discussed in family areas (a garden/park area) to the point that families got up and left.
• Completely inappropriate Lingerie being worn in the street (before 2pm).
• Vomiting in the street! Whilst being jeered by the rest of the group.

Personally I would rather bleach out my own eyes than go on a hen do like this- but honestly at what point do we just call the police on these ridiculous idiots inflicting such unreasonable behaviour on families and regular people? What’s worse is, I bet back home they’re perfectly normal women. They just all get together and come away from home and behave like total arseholes!

Being in a large group and celebrating an event- does not give you a hall pass to behave like scum. 😡

And I LOVE york, it's one of my favourite cities in the whole world (Not kidding). I jump on the train regular to shop and eat there.
I'd love to live there, however now you've mentioned this...

I live in Dublin, there’s a no go area full of uk stags & hens. On the threads where people say they’ve been to Dublin & hated it I wonder if they stayed in the stags/ hens ghetto.

I know York well, but it only used to become a no-go zone during weekend evenings. It’s particularly horrific when the once-fantastically enjoyable York Races disgorges its bladdered attendees on an unsuspecting public, but if this is starting to spill over into the daytime too then that’s seriously bad news for the locality. It’s anti-social behaviour, which is illegal, and it needs to be stamped on as such.

As for criticising this as common behaviour, that’s mild compared with the language that could have been used. ‘Common’ Is what it is. As in the lowest common denominator. And I’m not taking about how much money these people have, or their economic backgrounds, as if that matters anyway. They are yobs who have no social graces and no idea how to behave remotely acceptably in public places. And no, it isn’t necessarily the travellers at the races who are wholly at fault. Anyone ever seen the way some barristers can behave when they get together in a mixed gathering? I have. And they were an utter disgrace.

Ergo, quit with the soci, ‘class’ nonsense; it’s inaccurate and boring.

These people are shameless and we as a society have been cowed into thinking that no-one can be brought to book for anything. They do what they like because they have no control, no respect and because they can get away with it. Whether that's groups of kids hanging around, up to no good, or groups of me or women making life worse for the rest of us.

Quite frankly-and you can all clutch your pearls at this-we need to get back to a time when a member of the public can tell them to shut up and EXPECT to be backed up by other members of the public, not look around and they all pretend they didn't see.

I would like to give these women a strong kick up the arse and be given a gold medal for doing so, not just tutting.

We have to make people like that-men, women, children-be afraid to act that way. We need to take back control. Shame them, throw buckets of cold water over them, hose them down. They are ruining it for the rest of us and we stand by like twats and let them.

The police should come out in big riot vans and then round the fuckers up and dump them 20 miles outside whatever city they are polluting.

A PP described some cow sticking her fingers down her knickers and waving them at her husband. She should have got up, got hold of said fingers and wiped them to her own arse. She'd think on next time.

And as for all the posters who will now pile on to slag me off I say this: nothing is working, so we sit back and let them ruin life for all of us or we take strong, very strong measures, that they will understand.

It might be unpleasant for a while but I think it would eventually show them that we disapprove and will treat them back the same way they treat us. These people depend on no-one taking strong measures.

I am going to York soon and I shall take a water pistol with me-filled with piss- and if any twat shoves her tit out in front of me, then I'll spray her with it.

Dontcovertheradiator, allow me the privilege of being the first poster to pile in on your comment.

And I say Amen to that, and I applaud it!

YANBU

We have some of this stag/ hen behaviour in The City nearest to where I live. Never ever go in to Town for theatre or to eat on a, Saturday night these days! I feel intimidated by the large drunken groups partying if I am out at night.

I am all for people having fun, but I think local pubs should time restrict it for hen and stag parties. In reality not practical and pubs would not implement it, as it would not be good for business and they would not profit from it.

It is not on though to have to witness foul language or drunken behaviour during the day when walking through a City or Town centre on a weekend afternoon, especially with children.

HPLikecraft "I’d been longing to holiday in York this year as I had such a magical time there as a child 40 years ago, but this thread has put me off"

It's put me right off too! I had been planning a mini break in York this summer, as I haven't been there since 1982. I remember it as a lovely place to wander around exploring all the old streets and alleys. I'm very reluctant to go back now, as the current awful reality will spoil the memory of my previous visit.

I've decided to give York a miss and head for the dales and moors instead. I've found an Airbnb place in the middle of nowhere: no hen parties any where near, I hope!

How very sad that our beautiful old cities are being plagued and ruined by this menace.

Agree with radiator.
All this “don’t judge” has gone too far so you’re now expected to sit there with a neutral face whilst someone behaves in a disgraceful manner.
As someone said earlier - if there are no standards of acceptable behaviour, society will break down

@onioncrumble yes, I grew up in a garrison town in Essex and was going to make the point that this was a typical Friday/Saturday night out in the 1980s where I grew up! My friend was a goth and got punched in the face nearly every weekend. Now it's the same behaviour, just stags/hens

Living in Bournemouth for a couple of years opened my eyes to stag parties though - the amount of naked men chained to railings! It got to the point where it didn't even really register any more.

donotcovertheradiator I have just read your post and feel that I must respond.

My response is that I agree with pretty much everything you said! You're right. Why should we just stand meekly by and tolerate this antisocial behaviour!?

York by any chance?

Think it’s a Brexit effect. More “internal tourism” this year generally. So fewer stags and hens to Amsterdam and Prague, more to historic UK places that have so far escaped those joys.

Yes chocorangeheaven it is.

This thread is like classism bingo. “Common, chavvy, classless, Newcastle accents.” I don’t buy a single one of the OP’s disclaimers. And however obnoxious the hen groups are, this kind of (not very) coded snobbery is equally obnoxious.

The city isn’t Oxford. I have never seen this. I will look out for it on my next trip to York.

I am so glad I am a “snob” 😁

We need a bit more snobbery towards these foul people. Let me decode that you- by snobbery I mean intolerance towards them and I don't care if they have degrees in Greek or are illiterate. .

More, snobbery, more intolerance-much more needed- before we are all cowering at home afraid of these shits on legs. Let them start to be afraid of decent society. I suspect you won't like the term decent either!

Radiator.. Totally agree.. And make sure the pistol is filled with cold wee

Yes what is this “don’t judge” virtue signalling crap? If you are rolling drunk midday shouting obscenities be sure we are judging you hard.

YANBU op.

I judge, and I judge hard.

Reason why I moved abroad.

I think local pubs should time restrict it for hen and stag parties. In reality not practical and pubs would not implement it, as it would not be good for business and they would not profit from it.

Dublin, Cork, Kilkenny and Killarney are all doing just fine without alienating bona fide tourists and the locals by pandering to the stags and hens. As are European cities that clamped down.

I actually find this behaviour frightening . I’ve had a couple of near misses usually on trains to and from York where people have tried to have a go. I really don’t want to get into an argument with a drunk woman waving a bottle around. The last time I got the train to York a girl was so drunk she stripped off to her underwear on the train. Her mates nearly left her so she jumped off like that. Sorry but there’s no way that can ever be acceptable.Shes a liability and someone.. police..A&E .. etc is probably going to end up having to deal with it.

This thread is like classism bingo. “Common, chavvy, classless, Newcastle accents.” I don’t buy a single one of the OP’s disclaimers. And however obnoxious the hen groups are, this kind of (not very) coded snobbery is equally obnoxious.
Nowt wrong with a Geordie accent.
There's everything wrong with a drunk lass flashing her tits at 2pm.

It's not coded snobbery at all.

Some behaviour is loutish. To equate looking down on loutish drunk behaviour as being some sort of nasty classism is ridiculous virtue signalling. I've got a working class background and me and my friends don't behave that way. I have zero issue with people looking down on chavvy behaviour because I know they are judging antisocial louts, not working class people.

It’s not a class thing but a behaviour thing. A group of hooray Henry extremely posh public school late teen kids visited a remote hotel we stayed at once. Everyone in the hotel vacated for the day. They ruined the pool area with their loud obnoxious behaviour.

^

Not quite in the same league as Ladies Day at Aintree, though?

Snobbery? There's nothing snobby about being disgusted by vile behaviour! The hen and stag do's could be attended by Lord and Lady Posh and their acquaintances but if they were behaving in the vile ways described in this thread, I would definitely want to get out my pre-loaded water pistol and press the trigger at close range! Social status is nothing at all to do with it.

Radiator every sentiment you expressed was heard on the lips of Dubliners a few years ago, and thankfully action was taken.

Nobody should have to put up with non-responsive police.

It is anger about this sort of anti-social behaviour along with feelings of powerlessness to change the situation that fuels the rise of the far right.