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To think people who own more than 3 properties should have a special tax applied to them?

794 replies

Calltheguards · 28/05/2019 10:32

I'm just thinking with the housing crisis, should people really own more than 3 properties? I would assume it's a property portfolio and used to exploit renters. AIBU to think there should be a special tax applied to property owners who own more than 3 properties? Maybe tax them at a really high rate to discourage people from hoarding property.

OP posts:
Happyspud · 28/05/2019 16:41

I think people fail to realise that ‘landlord’ has always been an actual job. Owning, maintaining and renting property is a full time, legitimate job for some people. They also pay tax like everyone else and built their business up with hard graft and investment like any business.

FuturePr00f4 · 28/05/2019 16:45

I work FT
I live in a property that was empty for over a year & needs full refurbishment. Nobody wanted to buy it. We are doing the improvements slowly over a few years

I have 2 other properties that were fully paid off before I rented them out.
I've spent time, effort & money doing all the improvements & repairs eg new windows, decorated, new kitchen, new carpets. The cost of the improvements was less, because we did some of the work ourselves on our days off work

I pay stamp duty & taxes

I rent out at below market rate, with no deposit

I donate money to charity
I'm generous with my family & friends
I drive an old banger car

I could have bought shares or premium bonds with my savings, but I chose property instead

Bluntness100 · 28/05/2019 17:11

Op, your argument is flawed.

Op.Increase taxes on those who have more than three properties.
MN, They already pay increased taxes. Quite highly as well.
Op. Increase it more then and the money can be used for social housing. But no new houses to be built due to the environment.
MN then where will these houses come from that local authorities will buy?
Op the landlords with more than three properties will sell them to the councils as social housing.
Mn, but if they are the ones whose tax will buy them, but they sell them they aren't paying tax so there will be no money to buy them.?
Op but if they sell them house prices will drop and more people can afford to buy houses.
Mn, but a huge amount won't be able to, no matter how cheap, where will these people live,because there will be less rentals? And with less rentals prices soar. And what happened to your plan of the local authority's buying them? Now it's people?
Op. IM RIGHT IM RIGHT IM FACKING RIGHT.

Seriously batshit.

Calltheguards · 28/05/2019 17:16

@Bluntness100

I will not be responding to you anymore. You need to learn how to calm down. Calling people batshit is abusive and offensive to individuals with mental health issues.

If you were going to have a conversation in good faith rather than bias, I could explain the economics further to try to make it clearer for you but at this point you have shown there is no point.

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GreytExpectations · 28/05/2019 17:20

I will not be responding to you anymore

@Bluntness100 come and join me in the "exiled club" where we are not worthy enough of the OPs replies 😂

boobirdblue · 28/05/2019 17:21

This is a very stupid question to ask on an internet forum.

How the fuck so?

sergeilavrov · 28/05/2019 17:23

@calltheguards I've explained the economics, and was polite throughout. It does seem that you aren't really engaging with the arguments being set forth. I sympathise greatly with @bluntness100, you have to accept it is frustrating when all of our responses are ignored in favour of ever more bizarre stances.

BuggerOffAndGoodDayToYou · 28/05/2019 17:23

Can one of the posters who wants all landlords to...well... stop being landlords.... tell me where the university students will live during term time?

Bluntness100 · 28/05/2019 17:26

Thanks Grey,

Calltheguards · 28/05/2019 17:26

@sergeilavrov if you sympathise with posters using abusive language then there is no point in engaging.

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Family4F0rtunes · 28/05/2019 17:26

There was a recent news article. The Government has 25000+ military properties that are currently unoccupied. The Government is paying to leave these empty
Why aren't these rented out to families ?

boobirdblue · 28/05/2019 17:28

@Bluntness100 and @GreytExpectations I may be joining you soon! I asked what property OP owned. It could be she's a landlord already and knows about the additional tax and is just being goady as fuck. But apparently it's a stupid question to ask on a anonymous forum about additional tax for landlords..... I mean go figure that!

Bluntness100 · 28/05/2019 17:30

Op. In this instance I'm going to report you. Even though you personally link the words bat shit and people who suffer from mental illness, the rest of us don't and you are being offensive and I think that needs or be removed.

The term batshit has absolutely nothing to do with mentally ill people and if I was you I'd report my own post and have it removed.

That's really really not ok.

sergeilavrov · 28/05/2019 17:30

@calltheguards I sympathise with being frustrated. So yes, I think you should engage with well reasoned debate if you truly believe you can substantiate your opinions with evidence and logic. I look forward to your response Grin

Gth1234 · 28/05/2019 17:32

what about a "resentment" tax, levied on people who can't abide others achievements.

TheAverageJuror · 28/05/2019 17:33

*I will not be responding to you anymore. You need to learn how to calm down. Calling people batshit is abusive and offensive to individuals with mental health issues.

If you were going to have a conversation in good faith rather than bias, I could explain the economics further to try to make it clearer for you but at this point you have shown there is no point.*

"You need to calm down" 😂😂😂😂 OP, you called people parasites fgs. Stop hiding behind MH just because you can dish it out, but not take it. That's offensive to people with MH...
You weren't called batshit because MH issues, but because this idea of yours is indeed batshit.

Sirzy · 28/05/2019 17:35

The problem is blutness you are using common sense in your approach and the OP isn’t willing to make use of that.

She seems to be a “keep digging yourself deeper” situation

GreytExpectations · 28/05/2019 17:35

**

Thanks! And fwiw bluntness i think you made some good points but what do i know, i've already been called thick and dishonest by both the OP and a PP who shares her hatred of landlords. Apparently having a different opinion makes you thick 🤷🏾‍♀️
Would anyone else like some popcorn?

Seriously OP. You are being very offensive and the fact that you cant discuss opinions with anyone who disagrees makes me question why did you even post this?

boobirdblue · 28/05/2019 17:35

*Op. In this instance I'm going to report you. Even though you personally link the words bat shit and people who suffer from mental illness, the rest of us don't and you are being offensive and I think that needs or be removed.

The term batshit has absolutely nothing to do with mentally ill people and if I was you I'd report my own post and have it removed.

That's really really not ok.*

@Calltheguards this is very true, shame on you!

No one who has mental health issues or illness is batshit, no one should even consider an association. They are ill, unwell the same as any other illness. Why would you associate the word batshit, just why?

TheAverageJuror · 28/05/2019 17:37

I still want to know how much people think the prices would fall and where would FTBs get that money for deposots. That's one of the big arguments: Landlords sell up, proces fall and FTBs can afford to buy. How? Where is the deposit coming from? How much will prices fall?

GreytExpectations · 28/05/2019 17:37

@TheAverageJuror you should see the OPs response to me! Apparently i cant be responded to because i argue with "fallacy" when i pointed out that she didnt understand how mortgages work 😂

GreytExpectations · 28/05/2019 17:39

@Calltheguards i cant believe you are calling people with MH issues "batshit". That is so offensive and im also going to report you.

TheAverageJuror · 28/05/2019 17:39

@GreytExpectations 😂😂 shame on you 😂

Calltheguards · 28/05/2019 17:39

I am very offended by the ad hominem attacks. I have been attacked with a slur that is a slang against the mentally ill. That is not me saying it, but the Oxford dictionary.

en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/batshit

I will not be engaging anymore with the abuse.

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Allthepinkunicorns · 28/05/2019 17:41

Landlords do pay a special tax, they pay stamp duty when they buy the house and capital gains tax when they sell it on if the property is over a certain amount. Also they pay tax on earnings.

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