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Mother and 10k she gave me

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cantchooseyourfamily · 21/05/2019 10:06

I posted a thread about this a few months ago, for those who didn't see it this is the short version.

I was given up for adoption when I was a baby, along with my older brother. I found my birth mother when I was 17 and have had a very turbulent relationship with her since. She had another 3 children after we were adopted who stayed with her and she seems to have done quite well with her relationship with those children and seemed to be in a pretty good place financially, she owns several properties, a few businesses, drives nice cars, etc.

Up until January my relationship with her had been pretty good for 2 years, I'd become accepting of what I felt was pretty rubbish behavior on her part ( not sending my children birthday cards, saying she would come and see them and then just not turn up, not messaging or calling for months at a time then just picking things up as though everything was fine). I just put this down to her being like that, accepted I couldn't change her and just took the relationship for what it was.

Two years ago I was diagnosed with a severe illness and went downhill quickly, there was an experimental treatment I could have abroad that I decided to go for that had a price tag of just over 50k. She all but insisted on giving me 10k towards it (we were short of that amount but would have figured it out, put it on a credit card or took out a loan). I offered to pay it back at least 3 or 4 times over the following months and every time she said no, she'd wanted to help and she was so glad I'd gone ahead, etc, etc.

My DH and I are fairly comfortably off, I have my own company and he has a good job, we could have paid the money back quickly if she had wanted it but she said every time that she did not.

My treatment went very well and towards the end of last year I decided to invest more money into my company and expand, my mother was aware of this and had even visited some premises with me and had discussions with me about my future plans.

A year after the treatment, out of the blue she messaged and said she wanted it back. After a lot of thought I decided not to, I was angry that she was rewriting history, trying to say that conversations that we had in front of other people just hadn't happened (conversations where she had absolutely insisted she never wanted it back), annoyed that she had made such a song and dance about being the hero to friends and family and was then expecting to be able to call it in at any time of her choosing. I suppose I felt it was the tip of the iceberg with her treatment towards me, her inconsistency, being there for me and then trying to take it back when it had meant so much to me.

Anyway she then said she'd be taking me to court, I got legal advise and was told she would almost certainly be unsuccessful (we had sent messages where I had thanked her for this money and she had said it was a gift). Nothing more had happened until yesterday...…..

She called me for the first time in 4 months and I honestly thought she was ringing to say sorry for how she had handled the whole situation. But no, she was ringing to tell me she had decided I could share it with my siblings and I am now supposed to give them all 2k. I told her I wouldn't be doing this, the money was gone and spent on the treatment over a year ago. I told her she didn't get to change what conversations had taken place and she went crazy, told me she could change any conversations she wanted to, then came out with some really awful stuff about not being my mother, she'd given me up because she didn't want to be and all sorts of other terrible things.

I'm so upset now, I feel like she's trying to manipulate the situation so my siblings will now be upset with me. I spoke to my brother yesterday who thought she was mad and told me to keep his share. Not that I can keep it anyway, it was spent over a year ago on the treatment.

AIBU to not give them all 2k? As far as I'm concerned the money was given for a purpose and spent on that, the money is long gone and any money that I would now give would be different money. The 3 children who my mother had after my brother and I were adopted have had a good standard of living throughout their childhood and even now into early adulthood (they've been bought cars, been on expensive holidays, one has lived rent free in a property our mother owns for over a year). My brother and I have never received any gifts of any significant value, aside from this money and I feel like I'm justified in saying no, they've had a lot more than 10k spent on them and I don't see why I should.

Sorry, that was a lot longer than I thought!

OP posts:
PregnantSea · 21/05/2019 14:53

Please cut all contact with this woman. You owe her nothing and she has repeatedly proven to you that she's not reliable. You don't need her. I guarantee you that there will be more stories like this one in your future if you allow her to continue to be a part of your life.

"No, I won't be paying anyone any money, please don't contact me ever again". Block her everywhere that you can and ignore any other messages or calls that you get. If you lose the relationship with your siblings then so be it.

Whatterly · 21/05/2019 15:04

Just to add that yes, my treatment went extremely well and fingers crossed all is looking good from a health point of view - thank you.

I'm so pleased to hear this. I did it too, and it worked for me. I'm 2 years+ now and it's still stopped :)

AlwaysCheddar · 21/05/2019 16:03

Glad you’re on the road to recovery but do not give that woman or your siblings any money! She’s a cow.

HighsandLows77 · 21/05/2019 16:13

I would have to give her the money back so she wouldn’t have anything over me.

She sounds horrible OP, I’m glad your treatment went well.

Smelborp · 21/05/2019 16:44

I’m glad things are looking up for you in terms of health, and I’m also glad that you’re standing up to this woman’s manipulation.

The things she’s saying are no reflection on you, only her. You don’t need her in your life, she isn’t worthy of you.

JorahsMistress · 21/05/2019 16:44

Glad your treatment went well op Flowers

Whatever you you do don't give her the money back (or give 2k to the siblings), she's on a power trip and you can't let her win, you have proof that she was refusing to accept the money back, insisting that it was a gift, she hasn't got a leg to stand on legally or morally

Glad you are going nc now, you don't need someone like that in your or your dc life, its toxic and damaging, good luck op Smile

Cryalot2 · 21/05/2019 16:44

Am glad your treatment worked.A
I would have suggested legal.advice. But you have done that. Ignore her .

CallMeRachel · 21/05/2019 17:29

I'm so sorry your birth mother has turned out to be toxic and poisonous.

It sounds as if it was made abundantly clear at the time and since then that the £10k was a gift for treatment and not a loan.

I bet she feels you haven't quite danced to her tune in the last few months so has decided to attempt to re-write history by changing the terms.
It's a pathetic attempt to gain control and the upper hand.

The reason she's saying it's to be divided between your siblings now is so that it's almost like her and them all against you.
Psychologically, that's a lot of pressure.

I think if I were you I'd type out a letter / email detailing more or less what you've outlined here, including screenshots/texts confirming it was a gift. I'd summarise that her toxic and attempts at manipulative behaviour has left you with no option but to continue with your own life as you did before you met her again.

I agree with the majority of other posters that you should block all contact with her now. No good can come from her again after pulling this stunt.
Stay close to your brother and be thankful for the family who took you both into their hearts and lives.
They're your real parents.

Sallyseagull · 21/05/2019 17:34

I remember your other thread. Your mum is an arse and I bet your siblings wouldn't want the money, don't let your mum's shitty behaviour upset you any further.

ThatssomebadhatHarry · 21/05/2019 17:48

Op I remember your original thread. She is a horrid evil woman who likes to control and manipulate. You were lucky not to have been brought up by her. Contact your siblings explain that you would never say anything bad about them and you will not be speaking to your birth mother again. Hopefully this doesn’t need saying. Close the door on her block and move on.

SpecterLitt · 21/05/2019 18:37

Oh OP, I am so sorry for what you have been through but can I say, I am SO proud of what you appear to have achieved despite circumstances, that has really made me happy, honestly well bloody done!

Now, you are not being unreasonable at all to not share the money, she gave it to you and you offered to pay it back but she declined and set the ground rule that it was a gift. That can now not be changed because she has decided otherwise, she's being cheeky and rude and she certainly knows it.

It's disgusting when people do something good and then hold it over you after having their "hero" moment, it's vile. Please do not feel as though you owe anyone anything, you do not. If any of the siblings give you grief over it, I don't often say this but cut them out. You do not need their aggravation in your life, keep yourself protected and only give time and thought to those that value and respect you.

As painful as it may be, if your mother does continue this way, it may be best to just walk away. The horrible things she has said will mess you up if you keep listening to them and you do not deserve it.

Be proud of all you have achieved and protect yourself, you do not owe any one of these people anything. You owe yourself the right to feel safe and happy.

I wish you the best OP, I hope your businesses flourish and your health remains good. Best wishes to you.

popehilarious · 21/05/2019 18:48

like you say, the money is gone. There isn't "the £10k" any more. This is the mindset you should have rather than any of the people advising to try and find bits of money to send her way (?!). And ignore her as much as you can, she sounds utterly pathetic and manipulative.

nc100 · 21/05/2019 18:58

YANBU at all. She's definitely trying to create a further divide. How horrible for you. I'd speak to the others explaining what she's said and what she said when she gifted it to you in the first place. Surely they'll think she's crazy too to suggest such a thing.

But if they don't then I'd have to let them go too. So sorry OP

ElektraUnchained · 21/05/2019 20:44

I hope your brother can see through her.

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