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Mother and 10k she gave me

89 replies

cantchooseyourfamily · 21/05/2019 10:06

I posted a thread about this a few months ago, for those who didn't see it this is the short version.

I was given up for adoption when I was a baby, along with my older brother. I found my birth mother when I was 17 and have had a very turbulent relationship with her since. She had another 3 children after we were adopted who stayed with her and she seems to have done quite well with her relationship with those children and seemed to be in a pretty good place financially, she owns several properties, a few businesses, drives nice cars, etc.

Up until January my relationship with her had been pretty good for 2 years, I'd become accepting of what I felt was pretty rubbish behavior on her part ( not sending my children birthday cards, saying she would come and see them and then just not turn up, not messaging or calling for months at a time then just picking things up as though everything was fine). I just put this down to her being like that, accepted I couldn't change her and just took the relationship for what it was.

Two years ago I was diagnosed with a severe illness and went downhill quickly, there was an experimental treatment I could have abroad that I decided to go for that had a price tag of just over 50k. She all but insisted on giving me 10k towards it (we were short of that amount but would have figured it out, put it on a credit card or took out a loan). I offered to pay it back at least 3 or 4 times over the following months and every time she said no, she'd wanted to help and she was so glad I'd gone ahead, etc, etc.

My DH and I are fairly comfortably off, I have my own company and he has a good job, we could have paid the money back quickly if she had wanted it but she said every time that she did not.

My treatment went very well and towards the end of last year I decided to invest more money into my company and expand, my mother was aware of this and had even visited some premises with me and had discussions with me about my future plans.

A year after the treatment, out of the blue she messaged and said she wanted it back. After a lot of thought I decided not to, I was angry that she was rewriting history, trying to say that conversations that we had in front of other people just hadn't happened (conversations where she had absolutely insisted she never wanted it back), annoyed that she had made such a song and dance about being the hero to friends and family and was then expecting to be able to call it in at any time of her choosing. I suppose I felt it was the tip of the iceberg with her treatment towards me, her inconsistency, being there for me and then trying to take it back when it had meant so much to me.

Anyway she then said she'd be taking me to court, I got legal advise and was told she would almost certainly be unsuccessful (we had sent messages where I had thanked her for this money and she had said it was a gift). Nothing more had happened until yesterday...…..

She called me for the first time in 4 months and I honestly thought she was ringing to say sorry for how she had handled the whole situation. But no, she was ringing to tell me she had decided I could share it with my siblings and I am now supposed to give them all 2k. I told her I wouldn't be doing this, the money was gone and spent on the treatment over a year ago. I told her she didn't get to change what conversations had taken place and she went crazy, told me she could change any conversations she wanted to, then came out with some really awful stuff about not being my mother, she'd given me up because she didn't want to be and all sorts of other terrible things.

I'm so upset now, I feel like she's trying to manipulate the situation so my siblings will now be upset with me. I spoke to my brother yesterday who thought she was mad and told me to keep his share. Not that I can keep it anyway, it was spent over a year ago on the treatment.

AIBU to not give them all 2k? As far as I'm concerned the money was given for a purpose and spent on that, the money is long gone and any money that I would now give would be different money. The 3 children who my mother had after my brother and I were adopted have had a good standard of living throughout their childhood and even now into early adulthood (they've been bought cars, been on expensive holidays, one has lived rent free in a property our mother owns for over a year). My brother and I have never received any gifts of any significant value, aside from this money and I feel like I'm justified in saying no, they've had a lot more than 10k spent on them and I don't see why I should.

Sorry, that was a lot longer than I thought!

OP posts:
Hearhere · 21/05/2019 11:25

limit her ability to hurt you
I agree, this is the thing to focus on in these sorts of situations

Chocmallows · 21/05/2019 11:28

YANBU I would refer to her by her name from now on to create distance and do not recognise her as family. She does not deserve the title mother - she is not being a mother!

Let go of the hope that she will change and change yourself. You are important and deserve honesty and love not lies and hate.

Whatterly · 21/05/2019 11:32

I don't think you are remembering the thread correctly @Soontobe60
The OP did use it for treatment, and it was a gift not loan.

This was it www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3470891-Would-you-pay-back-this-10k

ScruffGin · 21/05/2019 11:32

I remember your last post, she is batshit, I'd block her and ignore.

I fear she is trying to cause problems between your siblings and you, I assume she has told them all she's asked for the money to go to them? I'd talk to the siblings and hope they're more reasonable than she is. You're better off without her

AryaStarkWolf · 21/05/2019 11:38

So sorry you've gone through all that OP, you're mother sounds awful and cruel. YANBU at all, don't you dare hand over a penny of that money to her or your siblings

Hearhere · 21/05/2019 11:39

you shouldn't even be answering the phone to this woman, make sure all her calls go straight to answering service, if she leaves a message then you reply to it when you can be bothered but just reply by text
you need to get control of the situation don't let her jerk you around, you should just be laughing at her because she's a lunatic don't take her seriously she's an idiot

Cheeseandwin5 · 21/05/2019 11:42

Firstly congratulations on your recovery, I hope you continue to be in good health.
I would agree with many others, this woman seems to be destroying your mental health, I can understand you may want to have a bond with her, but I wonder if you would be happier just cutting the ties and forgetting about her now, although I dont know how you feel about your step siblings and whether you want to keep a relationship with them.
One thing I think you may need to stop is referred to by your brother- 'that you could keep his share' It is not his or any of the other siblings share. This money was given to you, full stop. She is trying to rewrite history and it is important you dont let her lies influence the other children, not only for your reputation and relationships with them but also in case they decide to take action further along the line.

mcmooberry · 21/05/2019 11:42

I also remember your last thread and am very glad you didn't give it back! She probably thinks she can get it back but most people will still believe she gave it so she will still look like the hero of the hour. What a dreadful woman I am sorry you are related to her. You deserve that money and don't hand over a bean to anyone.

DKmamma · 21/05/2019 11:49

You can't rationalise and reason with the insane. Just rest assured that you have explained your position, which is a fair one, to her and try to leave it at that. I too have an unhinged mother and even though it is difficult I try to do what I can to enable a relationship with her whilst accepting/ignoring her utter mentalness over some issues which I am powerless to change. xx

Pinkyyy · 21/05/2019 11:53

I remember your previous thread OP. In all honesty I think if the siblings would actually accept the 2k each from you, they're as bad as she is. Please take legal action if you have multiple people harassing you for money you don't owe.

bakedbeanzontoast · 21/05/2019 11:57

I'm adopted. Blood doesn't always count for much. Bin the bitch. She sounds like a fucking monster. Sorry this is close to the bone to me wouldn't normally sound like such a grump!

TheRedBarrows · 21/05/2019 12:00

What a horrible thing to have to deal with - revisiting the trauma of needing the treatment, and a backdraft of shit from your birth mother.

You have your own life and loving family now. Concentrate on the relationship with people who have been consistent in their care for you. You deserve to be valued.

ItsAllGone19 · 21/05/2019 12:00

I'm sorry you're still having grief about this.

As you've said, it was clearly a gift at the time and your 'mother' cannot change the goal posts now that she's changed her mind. She's toxic and doesn't deserve any of your attention.

If any of your siblings is crass enough to ask for the money send them a screenshot of the conversation where your mother clearly says this was a gift and tell them to fuck off or something more polite but I'd honestly tell them to fuck off

If they feel short changed because you were given £10k they can take that up with your mother. It's nothing to do with you despite her best efforts.

I know you were struggling previously with the idea of cutting her from your life completely but I really do think this would be the best course of action for you and your future happiness. You really don't need to be walking on eggshells waiting for yet more harassment from people who should care about you.

BarrenFieldofFucks · 21/05/2019 12:00

I'm so pleased you stood firm, well done. I remember your last thread and ruminated on it for days as it was such a shitty situation for you. Not only is her behaviour Illogical but it is downright cruel.

Do not give over any money.

bridgetreilly · 21/05/2019 12:00

YANBU. You owe her nothing and your siblings even less.

OP, I really think you need to considered cutting contact with her altogether. She is clearly not capable or willing to have any kind of positive relationship with you, and the hurt you've already suffered from her is enough. More than enough. It's okay not to have her in your life now.

TheRedBarrows · 21/05/2019 12:02

OTOH I might be tempted, if I really could afford it, to send her the money with a message that says you realise that the money is a priority for her, and then block her and have no access or contact.

FizzyGreenWater · 21/05/2019 12:11

This woman isn't your mother.

Send her a message letting her know that and telling her to FUCK OFF.

'You're right, you're not my mother. You've only ever been a mother when you can be bothered to be one, you can switch off your parenting and decide you don't give a shit just like that. Which isn't a real mother, not to anyone. You're not a real mother to anyone you gave birth to because you just don't know how.

If you want me to send on every text relating to the money you GIFTED to me, including your latest shite about owing my siblings instead, then I will. I'm surprised you'd want me to show them exactly how much of a real mother you are when it suits you, mind. You may have given them everything you decided not to give me, but what you did to me and [brother], and what you're doing now, shows even them just how much they don't really have a proper mum. Don't contact me again'

Wheresthebeach · 21/05/2019 12:20

I afraid you've no choice but to cut contact. She's a horrible person. Don't let her upset you like this.

You keep the money, it was a gift. She can't keep changing her tune and getting abusive when you don't do what she wants.

NoSauce · 21/05/2019 12:22

What a horror she is. I think I would cut her off forever Op in your shoes. What kind of mother does that?

Tinkobell · 21/05/2019 12:29

If you do decide to give her the money back (and I think you should in order to preserve you sanity and demonstrate that you are the better person) ...get a signed receipt off her OP. The silly cow threatened you with court action, so do cover your back.
Her money enabled you to access healthcare promptly, you've got that. So now preserve your sanity.
I find it hard to believe by the way, that a mother can be uniquely bitch-like to just the one child. I'm sure in time your siblings will sadly come to regret their contact with this dreadful woman.

Aguamenti · 21/05/2019 12:34

next time when she says that she is not your mother , tell her that yes she is not. She gave you up. Your mother is the one who chose you out of her own will and brought you up with love. Why did you even get in touch with her in the first place?

cstaff · 21/05/2019 12:52

I also remember your other thread OP and am delighted that you have not paid this horrible woman back. She has probably realized that she has no case against you and is now taking this route. Just block and ignore. Cut her off from every source you have.

If I remember correctly you didn't have a great relationship with her other sons / daughters so if I am right you really have nothing to lose.

Just go NC - she was never your mother to begin with OP. Sorry you are going through this shit again.

Mummyoflittledragon · 21/05/2019 12:53

I am glad you decided to keep the money. On the last thread I was also opposed to returning the gift.

From memory £10k is a very small amount for your birth mother. So I would think this latest move is all about proving a point, making you know your place and ensuring you cannot muscle in on her fake family (ie the kids she kept). She doesn’t like you because you’re a threat to her. I’m sure of that. You’re a strong woman, with principles and this latest move is all about her. Not you.

I haven’t re read the first thread, but didn’t the children she kept get given sports cars for their birthdays or some such? They’d laugh at the
paultry 2k from “Cinderella”. They probably could spend that on a bag or weekend away.

I’m glad to see this thread is almost unanimous to cut contact and not borrow the money to repay her.

cantchooseyourfamily · 21/05/2019 14:43

Thank you everyone. I won't be speaking with her again.

She's now attempting to cause trouble between my brother and I, claiming I have said something about him which I haven't. It's like being back at school and would be laughable, except the thing she is saying I said is awful and very hurtful for everyone concerned.

I've never met anyone like her and dearly regret having her back in my life at all. I've never come across anyone who seems to relish causing so much upset and misery to those around her.

Just to add that yes, my treatment went extremely well and fingers crossed all is looking good from a health point of view - thank you.

OP posts:
AryaStarkWolf · 21/05/2019 14:47

She's now attempting to cause trouble between my brother and I, claiming I have said something about him which I haven't

The brother who was also adopted? He surely knows her form anyway and doesn't believe her, right?

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