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To be rethinking my 3 year relationship as he never told me he had kids.

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PenelopeDelph · 20/05/2019 01:15

New account for this as v v outing but need to rant. I'm 33 and he's 45. We've been together 2 years. I knew he was married in his 20s and got divorced at 35 but he has never mentioned his kids before now. Both of his parents are dead and he doesn't have anything to do with the rest of his family either. We had our DD 6 months ago and recently moved into a new flat and have been talking about getting engaged.

On Friday I was suspicious as he told me he was at work in another city (he is a self employed handyman) but got a text from my friend who works at a hospital in our city saying she'd bumped into him in the car park and he'd told her he'd just given an elderly woman a lift to A and E after she fell over. I phoned him to ask why he was still in our city when he'd left for work hours ago and he told me he'd explain when he got home (which was 2 hours later). The sod had me worrying for hours thinking he was ill and hadn't told me.

So he gets home and tells me to sit down and I was feeling sick with worry expecting him to say he had cancer or something horrible. He ends up blurting out he has 3 sons from his previous marriage who he didn't see for years because of conflict with his ex wife but has been building bridges with them the past few months ever since he discovered his eldest's girlfriend was having a baby. They are 21, 18, and 16. He said he didn't want to tell me as they resented him for a while over having no contact and weren't happy to hear he'd had a new baby with a younger woman. But said that he'd always intended to tell me soon. Not sure I believe that. Anyway so half the time when he's been at "work" he's actually been spending time at the pub with his sons and even helping his eldest do up his baby's nursery. Which would be lovely if only I had known about it! He says they are all a lot closer now.

On Friday eldest's girlfriend had a baby girl and my partner was at the maternity ward paying them a visit. Apparently his ex wife was there as well and while I don't feel threatened by her I find it disheartening that he'd told me he was at work while he was at the hospital with her meeting their lovely new grandchild. All while I was at home with my daughter. I feel exlcuded and an absolute mug. Me and DD went to stay with my mum after he told me as I was fuming. We came back today and it has been tense to say the least. I lost my shit when I saw he'd packed all of DD's old baby clothes up to pop round to his son as I had intended to give them to my friend. Another huge row happened and I haven't seen him since. I reckon he's at his eldest's house.

I just feel like me and my DD have been so excluded and disregared. It's great that he's trying to make it up to his son's for not being part of their lives but he should have told me, surely? It's like he wants to keep them and us in two separate boxes because they resent us after he didn't see them for years and had a baby with me. Which infuriates me because it's his fucking fault, not mine and DD's. I'm very hurt and angry by it all and I'm not sure what to do next.

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Eustasiavye · 20/05/2019 20:23

Omg.
What a liar he is.
You cannot believe a word he says.
For all You know he might have other kids with other women.

foreverhanging · 20/05/2019 20:23

Wow op. The lies run deep.

leomama81 · 20/05/2019 20:25

I think Februaryblooms is probably right there... yes it is conjecture but also the most likely explanation - I don't really buy the not engaging on FB with strangers - I mean you aren't a stranger, at least according to him his ex and sons know about you. It certainly appears she has ill feeling towards you and if you are just a new relationship way after hers ended then there is not really any reason for that.

Also think his response is disgusting. I personally could not forgive this, both for the complete betrayal of trust that will leave you forever wondering what the truth is, and for his minimizing of it.

Wittsendargh · 20/05/2019 20:31

What a terrible situation, really sorry OP 💐. Regarding the house, you both have equal rights. If he refuses to sign over the tenancy, it will have to go to court and the judge will decide. It's a costly process. There's no way you can force him to move out if he is on the tenancy. So certainly not the right time to be thinking about it, but hopefully this answers your question.

adaline · 20/05/2019 20:32

I don't think her blocking you necessarily means much.

Maybe she doesn't want to get involved. I certainly wouldn't respond to a message like that - and would block the sender to prevent them nosying on my profile!

This is between OP and her partner. This woman doesn't have to get involved or give any answers if she doesn't want to.

Pantsomime · 20/05/2019 20:37

OP don’t second guess others. Concentrate on what you know from DP. He’s hidden his life from you. He assumes you won’t want more DCs with him by going to give your baby clothes away. He’s treating you like a mug now - “ not forgiving me yet” I can’t see how you can continue he’s just awful, you poor thing. You will be better off without him once you can deal with how he has broken dreams and heart. Think of DD and yourself

ThatCurlyGirl · 20/05/2019 20:37

To be fair to the ex wife imagine the headfuckery he's probably put her through over the years, she may just have had her fill and can't get involved in any more of his drama.

Sucks for you though and I honestly cannot believe his messages to you since - he sounds like a proper narcissist, thinking everyone will "fall in line" if he's casual enough about it all because he thinks then you'll all start to question if it's really big deal. Cruel horrid man, sorry OP. Thanks

oneforthepain · 20/05/2019 20:37

He knows full well this isn't about you being "in a mood".

What he is trying to do by saying that is minimise his behaviour and try to manipulate you into thinking you've overreacted so he can manipulate you into doing what he wants (taking him back).

The same as when he told you your baby's precious clothes were "just fabric". He knew what he was doing, but he wanted you to doubt yourself.

I'm so sorry.

You are not overreacting. If anything, you're under reacting. Someone who cared about you wouldn't still be trying to manipulate you.

woolduvet · 20/05/2019 20:39

I think I'd tell him I wanted to meet his family. If he's all, hell no, then I think you can presume he's still telling lies.

Leftielefterson · 20/05/2019 20:51

Oh my good god OP I’m sorry! That’s awful and such a betrayal. What kind of man denies his children like that? If it were me I think I’d have to leave and never look back.

MonnieMoo · 20/05/2019 20:52

In fairness I don’t get involved in my exes business anymore and if someone messaged me about him I’d ignore it and block too. My Facebook is for me and my family/friends it’s not for anyone at all to question me about my ex, there’s a reason we aren’t together and it’s my business.

This doesn’t mean I don’t sympathise with you OP because I really do, my heart goes out to you and all that you’ve been through, That’s just my take on the fb thing, many people feel similar. To some people as your profile is online and can be seen it’s considered fair game to approach people you don’t know on it, and to others they are very private, very personal and not for strangers to use.

You don’t know what if anything she knows about you, from her perspective you could be anyone and as awful as everything is that you’re going through she doesn’t owe you anything. That sounds harsh which isn’t my intention at all :( I do hope you get full and frank answers from him ASAP and please don’t let him wear you down Flowers

LillithsFamiliar · 20/05/2019 20:56

I wouldn't let him take DD out. If your DM is off with him then that's fine. It's no more than he deserves. She could read him the riot act and tell him he's not allowed in her house and she'd still be in the right.
None of you need to pretend you're ok with him. He's been despicable. He's reaping what he sowed.

SnuggyBuggy · 20/05/2019 20:58

He sounds very immature, like he thinks if he minimises everything it will all blow over

IndieTara · 20/05/2019 21:00

Please don't let him talk you round

Inniu · 20/05/2019 21:04

I don’t think there is any rush in letting him see your DD and you certainly don’t have to agree to it on his terms.

He didn’t see 3 of his children for years and didn’t seem overly upset by it. He will survive without seeing DD while you get your head around the lies he has told you.

Rubytinsleslippers · 20/05/2019 21:06

Fuck. He's a liar. I also suspect he's never been out first family life and made you OW. Double life.
So sorry he has put you in this position.

Sparkles07 · 20/05/2019 21:15

What a complete and utter narcissist!! Sounds so much like my narcissist FIL.

giantnannyknickers · 20/05/2019 21:25

The only way to the truth is to talk to the ex wife and kids....there is no way you can believe a word he says, was he going to deny your DD knowledge of her step siblings forever?

IStillMissBlockbuster · 20/05/2019 21:28

He's so blase about all of this! Assuming you'll 'get over it' and just waiting it out. What a fucker. I think you need to tell him just how serious this is.

PJMasksAreOnTheirWay · 20/05/2019 21:29

He really thinks this will all just blow over doesn’t he.

Newnewnewnames · 20/05/2019 21:30

For the first time EVER I've not rtft, but this is sooo brilliant I copied and pasted it to my notebook.

It’s universal code for “I walked away and couldn’t be bothered with them but I’m going to tell you she banned me so I don’t look like a cunt”. Usually followed up with an explanation of how his ex is “crazy and bitter” hmm

^this, this, and this again.^ All over the country, sadly. And I consider myself a smart woman and I'M at the wrong end of this too! This needs an acronym, smart mumsnetters.
In fact, this is a whole thread.
Anyone remember WN? ~wanknarc~...

PenelopeDelph · 20/05/2019 21:36

He turned up at 9 and took DD out in pram for half and hour then came back. We barely spoke. He didn't mention it and I think he wanted me to. I didn't.

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Alsohuman · 20/05/2019 21:39

It's only 9.39 now.

PenelopeDelph · 20/05/2019 21:40

Think he had a cheek about DD as she usually goes down at 7:30 but he insisted he'd pop round later. So had to keep her up as didn't want him accusing me of restricting his access 🙄 Won't be so reasonable next time

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PenelopeDelph · 20/05/2019 21:43

Alsohuman He didn't stick around as I'm not engaging with him

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