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AIBU Boris? They wouldn't would they?

88 replies

longwayoff · 19/05/2019 08:16

I fear they will. Who else is there?

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FirstOfMyNameMotherOfCats · 19/05/2019 09:46

Wondering myself if Boris gets the PM job, ie. what he REALLY wanted all along when he got behind the Brexit campaign, if he will stop pretending Brexit is a good idea.

If it gets kicked out permanently as as result I am also wondering whether having a "buffoon" for a PM for a while is actually a price worth paying? (Except if this is true he's possibly no buffoon at all and incredibly clever)

Annoying that he and his ilk fuck up over and over again and never seem to suffer any consequences. That's white male privilege for you 🤷‍♀️

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 19/05/2019 09:49

I also like the way people paint Corbyn as both being completely incompetent and ineffective but also somehow a destroyer of civilisation

Multi tasking

(And as usual i feel i need a disclaimer for the hard of thinking...i am not a labour supporter)

Unfinishedkitchen · 19/05/2019 09:53

So those who despise Corbyn for being friends with antisemites have no issue with Boris being a racist then? That’s how it appears.

Justbreathing · 19/05/2019 09:55

Can’t we just have a new deck of cards!

I don’t really like this set.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 19/05/2019 10:07

Absolutely just

And it looks like we are about to be dealt the Joker

Someone should have removed that card from the pack

longwayoff · 19/05/2019 10:10

Yes justbreathing you're right. They all need booting out. The other day, BBC news showed a group of fervent Tory brexit supporters, 'never voting Tory again, hurrah for Nige, where's our Brexit?'. They were all miffed. I would have been, at 67 years old, the youngest person there. I was miffed about them and what they represent. Why are we allowing the pensioners of this country to offer an abysmal future to our grandchildren? And who, under 40, given what they can see of our current politicians, across the board, would choose to enter politics? Only the worst of opportunists. I despair.

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Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 19/05/2019 10:16

And who, under 40, given what they can see of our current politicians, across the board, would choose to enter politics? Only the worst of opportunists. I despair

Should just say...and I appreciate tha5 quite obviously i think my chiodren are the mutts nuts

But my eldest has had thoughts of going into politics and he isn’t opportunistic at all

And i think there have been and will be conviction politicians

We just need more of them! And a change to our political system

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 19/05/2019 10:20

Oh my actual god

Children

Ive updated my ipad and fuck me do i regret doing it

Littletabbyocelot · 19/05/2019 10:21

I'm not a Corbyn fan but he's not a terrorist sympathiser, he thinks (which is exactly how the NI peace process worked) that you need to listen to the underlying concerns to move towards peace.

I don't believe the Labour Party will plunge us into the extreme left but faced with a choice I would be less scared of that than what Trump is doing to America. I can't believe anyone isn't terrified of that.

Also, I would need a direct link to believe that any sentence using the word 'say' twice came from the independent which markets itself on giving clear, factual and well written information.

CaptainButtock · 19/05/2019 10:34

Why because he is an anti Semitic terrorist sympathiser

One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter.

motortroll · 19/05/2019 15:55

@JohnnyMcGrathSaysFuckOff boris is a knob though and generally not very pleasant. I always thought John major was nice from reports I heard, not an arrogant arse like boris???

Obviously not entirely effective as a prime minister at the time but nice to people and about people...

Do correct me if you have info otherwise!!

UnicornBrexit · 19/05/2019 16:15

To be honest, it's not exactly like there's much choice.... the public loathe Gove and Hunt.... you have to elect the crowd pleaser, and Boris is a personality. They wheel him out in all the marginals and people flock to him, they love him. I've heard it said he has the Terry Wogan effect, he can talk to thousands in a room and you feel like he's only talking to you.

Dont mistake Boris for a fool, he isnt. He's extremely intelligent and academically gifted, he and all his siblings are. He got to Oxford on merit, a scholarship and was widely regarded by his dons as a genius.

He's a massive media personality, has cultivated the clown like buffoon image to with his HIGNFY personality, but toned it in recent years. He was a brilliant mayor of London; as foreign secretary he was adequate BUT the day after he was appointed he had to deal with the July 2016 Nice Terror Attacks and he was Churchillian - the first thing he did was thank all staff at the FCO for working all night to protect British citizens abroad - he always acknowledges his staff and they love him for it. He knows everyone's name, he acknowledges the lowliest receptionist every single morning.

He also gets away with blue murder. He does things that would kill off any other politicians career, multiple affairs, illegitimate children.

boris is a knob though and generally not very pleasant Anyone who works with and knows him says the opposite. I've heard him described as a chronic people pleaser, which is often why he appears to suffer with foot in mouth syndrome though, he tells people what he thinks they want to hear. But a fool, he isnt. Anyone who thinks Boris is a fool or stupid or a buffoon is incredibly naïve.

longwayoff · 19/05/2019 16:23

Yes I'm sure you're right on many points Stanley, his attraction is obvious. While you're there, can you have a quick look down the back of the Johnson sofa? There's £34 million still unaccounted for from the time Bozza was being a brilliant mayor.

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PositiveVibez · 19/05/2019 16:35

He was a brilliant mayor of London

Really? Two words. Garden Bridge.

MereDintofPandiculation · 19/05/2019 16:44

Why are we allowing the pensioners of this country to offer an abysmal future to our grandchildren? Can you try presenting your arguments without sweeping generalisations like this?

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 19/05/2019 16:50

I’m not sure his time in the foreign office would be described by many as ‘adequate’. Unless it’s become a synonym for ‘national embarrassment’

longwayoff · 19/05/2019 16:51

Thank you for the suggestion MereDint. I may do.

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LadyRannaldini · 19/05/2019 16:58

How would Corbyn destroy the country - this is hysteria without founding

No it isn't, it's long memories of a quasi-communist government although the corbyn is probably far further to the left.

GetRid · 19/05/2019 17:07

I can see the attraction of Boris to some people. He's certainly bright.

But he's has SO many lapses of judgement that have had a seriously negative impact that I think he should be ruled out. Eg his Nazanin Zaghari-Radliffe gaffe.

And policy- wise, he's all over the shop. What does he stand for?

BertrandRussell · 19/05/2019 17:12

“No it isn't, it's long memories of a quasi-communist government”

When did we have a “quasi communist government”??

LakieLady · 19/05/2019 17:25

Two words. Garden Bridge.

Two more: water cannon.

Patroclus · 19/05/2019 17:43

Dragongirl Trump met Gery Adams a few times and funded the IRA. We dont hear about that so much or the fact the tories have an ex IRA gun runner in their ranks

UnicornBrexit · 19/05/2019 17:50

The best you can come up with is two policies in 8 years. Do you even live in London? It says a lot that in a Labour strong hold (27 from 32 boroughs are labour) he was resoundingly returned every time. I don't much like the knocking of Sadiq due to ethnicity, of which there is a lot, whilst personable, he's about as much use as a chocolate teapot. And to be fair, other than TFL and the Met,. the Mayoral role is largely PR, for which Boris will always be far superior

UnicornBrexit · 19/05/2019 17:52

Anyway it doesn't matter does it ?

Participants on this thread would vote for the correct colour rosette - which isn't going to be blue no matter who is heading up the party.

longwayoff · 19/05/2019 17:53

Quasi communist? Bewildered shrug. Could you please be more specific? Do you mean 1945 and all the social improvements that ensued?

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