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To think that my neighbour jumped the gun, or an I actually a CF?

70 replies

LoveMyNeighbour · 14/05/2019 16:55

Firstly NC as outing, secondly I realise that I may have initially been in the wrong, but I wonder if this was a reasonable reaction from neighbours.
Last week by DH bought an incinerator for the garden. He used it for first time on Thursday afternoon . We had never used an incinerator before and did not know how much smoke would be produced so we checked that neighbours on either side were out and that they had no washing on lines or pets outside etc. It was quite a still day with little breeze. We were not burning garden waste, but some old documents with personal information on them. After a few minutes the neighbour from the house backing onto ours came knocking at door ranting and raving telling us to move incinerator immediately as it was spoiling his enjoyment of his garden. I apologised profusely and went to tell DH. Unfortunately he could not move it as it was too hot(obviously) but put the lid on to lessen smoke, and stopped burning move papers. We then heard the neighbour tell his daughter that I had apologised and she then said she was going to call the council. My DH was alarmed at this, but I reasoned that she could hardly call the council as we had immediately done our best to stop further smoke. Fast forward to today when I get home to see a letter from the council to say that they had a complaint about smoke causing a nuisance. So while I admit that we may have been inconsiderate, was this the best cause of action from my neighbour? I could understand if we had ignored their request and carried on burning stuff, or if we had done this on several occasions, but not after a ' first offence'. I await the rationalMN responses.

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MIA12 · 14/05/2019 16:57

Wtf? Surprised the council have the time or money to send a letter about a one off incident.

Crustyloafs · 14/05/2019 17:01

Burning is highly unplesant so I get your neighbours complaining. I suspect the neighbour just wanted it stopping before it even started so went to the council. Jumping the gun maybe and not something I would have done but I understand why he did.

Crustyloafs · 14/05/2019 17:02

BTW letters like that tend to get sent out to streets rather than individual houses as a first action.

Also, you may be in a clean air area.

TixieLix · 14/05/2019 17:05

No, your neighbour was being very unreasonable contacting the council for a 'first offence'. You apologised and did what you could to lessen the smoke, so they should have left it at that. The neighbour shouldn't have 'ranted and raved' either. Why don't people have a polite conversation any more?

However, you were being unreasonable to light an incinerator during the afternoon. These things (bonfires included) are best left until late evening when people are less likely to be sitting in their gardens or have washing out. Unfortunately smoke and smell travels, even on a still day. I would definitely use it again, but infrequently and late evening.

ChristinaMarlowe · 14/05/2019 17:08

Your neighbour was unreasonable to go calling the council since you apologised and lessened the smoke. As an aside, though, isn't there a law that says you should not burn things before 6pm or has that changed now? Just thinking this may be the (only) reason the council bothered to send the letter?

HeadsDownThumbsUpEveryone · 14/05/2019 17:09

Whilst I think it was an over reaction on your neighbours part I can greatly sympathise with them over how much an incinerator spoils the enjoyment of being outside on a warm day. Maybe they presumed this would be the first of many uses and wanted to nip it in the bud early.

I honestly don't understand why people buy them for destroying papers and documents what's wrong with a shredder? Hmm

BooksAreMyOnlyFriends · 14/05/2019 17:09

Why do you need to burn stuff? We shred documents by hand and chuck them in the compost.

EscapeTheCastle · 14/05/2019 17:11

What on earth? I think you are being silly burning anything in your your garden. It's so anti social and totally unnecessary.
Why should everyone in your neighbourhood have to close their windows because of your admin clear out?

Get a shredder or some special scissors that can cut up your super secret documents.

Dontsweatthelittlestuff · 14/05/2019 17:13

You might well live in a smoke free area in which case you can’t burn garden rubbish at all hence why you got a letter for a first offence.
Have a look on your council website as it will state there any clean air areas.

LakieLady · 14/05/2019 17:15

We bought a garden incinerator the weekend before last. We have huge amounts of prunings, most of which is too big to take to the tip, and far to big to get into a chipper.

Out of consideration for our neighbours, we don't light it till after dark and, despite burning one load every night this week, haven't had a single complaint.

Re the law, some councils have byelaws, others rely on (I think) the Control of Pollution Act.

I used to live in a council area where the byelaw was no bonfires or burning of waste before sunset or 7pm, whichever is the earlier. Seemed like an eminently sensible rule to me.

LetsDialDownTheIanPaisley · 14/05/2019 17:16

Use a shredder

GreenTulips · 14/05/2019 17:18

We can’t burn rubbish til after 6pm

Not sure why you felt the need mid afternoon

FriarTuck · 14/05/2019 17:19

Surprised the council have the time or money to send a letter about a one off incident
A previous neighbour complained about me once to the council & I got a letter - for one-off putting my bin bag out on a Sunday on MY bit of a shared drive ready for Monday morning collection. Angry I was not impressed.

ChicCroissant · 14/05/2019 17:19

YABU, OP. There are time restrictions on fires like that, and if the Council have written about it then it is clearly you! You didn't buy the bin for a one-off occasion!

ControversialFerret · 14/05/2019 17:20

Look on your council's website for rules about bonfires and burning of waste.

I rarely use our incinerator and if I do need to, I try and do it on a drizzly day because it keeps the smoke down.

LoveMyNeighbour · 14/05/2019 17:20

Thanks guys I appreciate your Frank replied. books We would normally shred paper,but after a recent death of relative we had about 4 bin bags of personal papers that would have taken an age to shred. I rang council and the guy said it was just a standard letter and not to panic. He actually said that the fact that neighbour acted so hastily said more about them than it did about me! I - wouldnt mind but the daughter has really loud all-night parties quite frequently and cleary has no regard for anyone else. My immediate neighbour and I have both spoken to her and her father to no avail, but I have not complained to council as I put it down to 'one of those things!'

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bellabasset · 14/05/2019 17:22

Where I think you were unwise was in not checking on the council website when you can burn garden rubbish. I had someone come round complaining as he was trying to check who had a bonfire. It's been a windy day here so you can see smoke billowing around. But you can burn here at any time but it's unreasonable when it is windy.

Jaxhog · 14/05/2019 17:23

Although I can understand their anger, you did stop as soon as you could. I'm not sure what else you could have done.

You must have a very proactive council though! Maybe your neighbour is a councillor?

There really is no good time to have a bonfire in my experience. We have a constant battle with our nextdoor neigbours about having a bonfire. Whenever we do it is 'the wrong time'. But sometimes it is necessary after major garden clearance etc. There's only so much you can get in a green bin! We try to negotiate a suitable time. I only wish they would do the same.

BookwormMe2 · 14/05/2019 17:25

YABU for buying and using something that adds to air pollution, all because you don't want to spend a bit of time shredding documents. That's incredibly selfish. I don't blame your neighbour for complaining.

LoveMyNeighbour · 14/05/2019 17:29

Actually it would have been more late afternoon/early evening as DH does not get home until after 5. There are no smoke restrictions in my area and the small amount of smoke released was on a par with a bbq. Rest assured we will NOT be using incinerator again.

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chocatoo · 14/05/2019 17:31

My husband goes out at dead of night to burn ours...

DontCallMeShitley · 14/05/2019 17:33

There are companies that destroy sensitive documents. Perhaps you could use one of those rather than cause pollution.

I absolutely detest the smell of burning, and have to shut all the windows, probably due to people burning anything they can get hold of rather than take it to the dump.

One of our neighbours has someone come round for their paperwork, the van is marked as a company that destroys sensitive papers. They don't go out and cause everyone to go indoors and shut their windows and doors.

GarthFunkel · 14/05/2019 17:34

Personally I'd use the incinerator again - next time his daughter has a loud party.

Qweenbee · 14/05/2019 17:35

I think a phone call to the police is in order, the next time they have a loud, late party.

DontCallMeShitley · 14/05/2019 17:35

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