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To think Radio 5 host Danny Baker cannot stay at the BBC?

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KingHenrysCodpiece · 09/05/2019 08:41

Sorry if theres a post on this already.
Link www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7009283/BBC-Radio-5-Live-host-Danny-Baker-tweets-racist-Royal-Baby-monkey-image.html

He ought to go immediately.

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SaveThePangolin · 09/05/2019 11:11

If it was just a terrible mistake, which I don't think it was, then can you imagine how utterly ashamed and distressed you'd feel if you'd been so stupid? You wouldn't be giving out semi-apologies that are self-pitying, you'd be distraught and embarrassed and probably resign, I'd have thought. It's extraordinary behaviour. Absolutely right to fire him.

MissEliza · 09/05/2019 11:13

I hope he never works again. That picture makes me sick.

KingHenrysCodpiece · 09/05/2019 11:14

Let’s be honest that ‘ I don’t see colour’ is a load of bollocks

See, I don't think so. People can't be blamed for not having to think about their race 24/7 like some of us unfortunately have to. I take the comment 'I dont see race' as 'I try not attribute values to people based on race' 80% of the time. If I was white with no people of colour in my family, I might exist in a nice little bubble.

For someone like DB though that excuse is impossible, he has spent a life-time in media.

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ThatCurlyGirl · 09/05/2019 11:15

Oh and the "my mind isn't diseased" line is the definition of white privilege.

IME people who say they don't see race may be lovely and well meaning, but it's usually because they've never had to consider it in their own lives.

Racism is a (horrible) reality, it isn't good enough to deny the lived experience of millions of people.

Jux · 09/05/2019 11:16

I'm the same age as DB, as is dh. Neither of us found it hard to see how appalling that Tweet was. I rather like Megan, she's a spark in a dying fire.

compolovesnorah · 09/05/2019 11:16

Imo he's an odious man at the best of times but this is absolutely disgusting!

ThatCurlyGirl · 09/05/2019 11:18

@SaveThePangolin I think you're bang on - he should be utterly apologetic and mortified

greenlloon · 09/05/2019 11:18

gary liniker should fire him from their joint podcast

HisBetterHalf · 09/05/2019 11:18

how has he not been immediately sacked? Utterly disgraceful

Ghanagirl · 09/05/2019 11:19

@Ces6
It says a lot about you if you think that

Slaymill · 09/05/2019 11:19

He has been sacked @HisBetterHalf

areyoubeingserviced · 09/05/2019 11:19

Findingmyfeet- I think that when many posters mention PC it is because racists use this term as a way to prevent discussion on racism.
To me, Danny Baker was trying to say that he was a ‘victim ‘ of the ‘PC ‘brigade

BasilTheGreat · 09/05/2019 11:20

I'm actually speechless to what he did! WTF??

Veryangryvicuna · 09/05/2019 11:20

Oh my goodness- I’ve just seen the photo 😮 Did he really tweet that?! I’m just appalled, almost lost for words quite frankly. And Meghan on day three baby blues, I think I might just cry if I were her.

wigornian · 09/05/2019 11:20

I am mixed race and I don’t see the racism - when I saw it I thought it was a reaction to the baby bring overdue and and all sorts of conspiracy theories! That is to say when we go see it it’s an unexpected sight. Alternatively a reference to the media circus and the parading the newborn. But hey, I don’t look for offence! Never been a fan of DB.

TheClitterati · 09/05/2019 11:21

I wasn't surprised by this at all and I'm amazed anyone actually is. Danny Baker has built his whole career on offensive humour, "just banter," being a lad etc.

I can't believe the BBC still employ him at all - there must be millions of non racist/non sexist clever interesting broadcasters who would be happy to be in that job - time to move the stupid dinosaur aside and make room for some fresh talent.

yolofish · 09/05/2019 11:21

As a complete aside, does anyone remember when London Zoo used to run chimpanzee tea parties? I can't remember whether they were dressed up or not, but that would certainly not be done now - wrong on so many levels.

As I said earlier, DB is clearly intelligent, has been around the world long enough etc. I just dont understand why he would do it, unless underneath the having a larf stuff he is a bitter and twisted racist.

TheClitterati · 09/05/2019 11:22

www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-48212693

oh he has been sacked!

DishingOutDone · 09/05/2019 11:23

The words publicity seeking arsehole come to mind. Arrogant bastard blaming everyone else.

crochetmonkey74 · 09/05/2019 11:23

I was really torn over this when I saw it this morning- my instinct was to think 'what a terrible mistake' and also the sort of thing that I might miss (I have only been aware of the connotations of monkeys as a racial slur in the last few years- not through stupidity but genuinely had never EVER heard that at all) When i saw the photo, I didn't know why it was controversial as I didn't connect it to the heritage of the baby at all. Then I read this thread and the articles about it and this comment People can't be blamed for not having to think about their race 24/7 like some of us unfortunately have to really helped me get it. It's not good enough to simply declare ourselves 'not racist'. We need to be better, we need to educate ourselves and it's not good enough to say ' I didn't know the connotation' We must know those connotations and challenge them every time. I agree with a poster upthread who mentioned DB's football connection and how this slur is used there a lot. I find it hard at times to fully understand the concept of white privilege but I think this thread has helped me some of that way.

TheClitterati · 09/05/2019 11:24

though the BBC will probably employ him again soon enough:

"It's the second time the controversial presenter has been axed by 5 live and the third time he has been sacked by the BBC.

In 1997, he was fired for encouraging football fans to make a referee's life hell after the official had awarded a controversial penalty in an FA Cup tie.

In 2012, he was was back in the news after an on-air rant branding his bosses at BBC London "pinheaded weasels" after his show was axed."

crochetmonkey74 · 09/05/2019 11:25

@ThatCurlyGirl
You expressed it so much better than me! - I have found this really useful.

*Oh and the "my mind isn't diseased" line is the definition of white privilege.

IME people who say they don't see race may be lovely and well meaning, but it's usually because they've never had to consider it in their own lives.

Racism is a (horrible) reality, it isn't good enough to deny the lived experience of millions of people*

areyoubeingserviced · 09/05/2019 11:25

Veryangry- I think that Meghan actually looked quite tearful to be honest.
She’s obviously not comfortable with the British press anymore , which explains why Harry was doing most of the talking
Tbh, I think that Harry has had enough of the British press and will probably move to America when the Queen dies

gamerwidow · 09/05/2019 11:26

I’ve always liked Danny Baker but I was appalled when it popped up on my feed in twitter.
There is no way you could not have known the connotations of that picture given all of fuss that was made of Meghan being mixed race when they married. I don’t think you can give this the benefit of the doubt.

Whatafustercluck · 09/05/2019 11:26

IME people who say they don't see race may be lovely and well meaning, but it's usually because they've never had to consider it in their own lives.

Yes I think this is true - hence my plaster/ foundation analogy.

I don't actively ascribe stereotypes or values based on what someone looks like is what I mean by it. But I still acknowledge that everyone has a level of unconscious bias (whether we're talking about race or beauty or body shape) and think it's healthy to realise it exists and challenge it - within myself and others.

Another example would be in the work environment. Our senior management meetings, without fail, end up with a woman taking notes - despite that woman being in every other respect entirely equal to her male counterparts sitting around that table (there is no admin support). We've only recently just started calling it out and actively volunteering the men to do it. They had no idea they were doing this, or that it was inherently sexist. It was their male privilege - they've never had to deal with others thinking that in order to carry out secretarial duties you must have a vagina.

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