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To think Radio 5 host Danny Baker cannot stay at the BBC?

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KingHenrysCodpiece · 09/05/2019 08:41

Sorry if theres a post on this already.
Link www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7009283/BBC-Radio-5-Live-host-Danny-Baker-tweets-racist-Royal-Baby-monkey-image.html

He ought to go immediately.

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NoSauce · 09/05/2019 10:57

I find the Meghan hate baffling if I'm honest

Me too. I obviously don’t know her but from what I’ve seen of her in interviews/tv etc she comes across well. I feel for her right now, having just had a baby when so many people she doesn’t know has an opinion on just about everything she does, everything she says and everything she wears. It must get her down. And now this.

marmiters · 09/05/2019 10:57

I don't think about a person's racial heritage often. To me, people are people

Not a fan of this either. It's very 'I don't see colour'.

findingmyfeet12 · 09/05/2019 10:58

I hate it too when people claim not to see racial heritage or colour.

Hopeygoflightly · 09/05/2019 10:58

I don't think he did it on purpose - why would he?? I hate this mob mentality

Why would he?? Because he’s a racist who finds jokes with the punchline ...’and it was a black fella!’ funny I would imagine.

NoSauce · 09/05/2019 11:01

I don't think he did it on purpose - why would he?? I hate this mob mentality

We will never know if he did it on purpose, he’s hardly going to admit it, is he? But there has to be consequences for certain actions, what he did was always going to be perceived as racist. And he’s paid the price now by losing his job.

Whatafustercluck · 09/05/2019 11:01

I don't think about a person's racial heritage often. To me, people are people.

This is a demonstration of white privilege. Black and mixed-race people often have to think about race when they are on the receiving end of racism. You (and Danny) are in the fortunate position of not having experienced that.

I think this is the crux of the matter to be honest. As a white person, I had never even considered 'skin coloured' plasters would stick out like a sore thumb on brown and black skin. It had not entered my head as being inherently wrong not to have different 'skin coloured' plasters available. Likewise when I go into Boots and see all the pale shades of foundation, I don't think to myself "but what if I was black?" We simply don't think about it, because we've never had to.

A monkey to me? "Cheeky", "speak to the organ grinder, not the monkey", "a monkey in a suit could do a better job", "more fun than a barrel full of monkeys". Monkeys are synonymous with mischief, silliness, foolishness etc. If you're not a fan of the royal family, or the media 'circus' that parading a new baby entails, you might well unthinkingly post a picture of a monkey in a suit. But probably only if you're white.

Fwiw, I have very little interest in the royals and only recently realised MM is mixed race heritage. Until then I'd have said she looked Spanish, had Mediterranean olive coloured skin. It wouldn't have occurred to me because I too just see people as people and wouldn't think about a person's racial background. It's not necessarily racism, but it's definitely ignorance and white privilege.

areyoubeingserviced · 09/05/2019 11:02

Let’s be honest that ‘ I don’t see colour’ is a load of bollocks

RosaWaiting · 09/05/2019 11:02

Ces6 "I don't think he did it on purpose - why would he??"

to see how much racism he can get away with. just as many people in senior roles do. They do it with sexism as well.

there will be offices all over the country where someone will be trying to head fuck their non-white colleagues talking about how unfair it all is.

as for mob mentality - what do you think I see when I see the picture he Tweeted? I see every racist remark directed at me in my whole lifetime. Meghan and her mum will see the same. Archie will hear about it when he's old enough. It's not mob mentality - it's a collective experience.

BertrandRussell · 09/05/2019 11:02

Of course he had to go. But it is utterly baffling that he would have done this. Apart from anything else, he is clever and media savvy and needs the job......

The80sweregreat · 09/05/2019 11:02

Of course he did this on purpose, he actively sought out this image to tweet without thinking about its content that closely. Which is just baffling.

greenlloon · 09/05/2019 11:03

twitter.com/prodnose/status/866018938504851456 says it all another lifelong labour supporter racist not surprised

LetGuardDown · 09/05/2019 11:03

What did he mean by 'Red sauce??

ChocChocButtons · 09/05/2019 11:04

I have a very un pc not for snowflakes sense of humour. But I find this utterly disgusting and he needs to be removed from the public immediately.

SaveThePangolin · 09/05/2019 11:04

"I don't think about a person's racial heritage often. To me, people are people"Typical white person speak. Of course you don't think race, you've been conditioned to think that your race is superior and your loved experiences aren't at all negatively influenced by race. Absolutely, and this is very important for people to start to understand.

greenlloon · 09/05/2019 11:04

I don't think he did it on purpose - why would he?? I hate this mob mentality
you cant find a picture write a caption and make a tweet not on purpose

BertrandRussell · 09/05/2019 11:06

“What did he mean by 'Red sauce??”
He has a thing on his programme called The sausage sandwich game, where people have to guess whether famous people have red sauce, brown sauce or no sauce at all on a sausage sandwich. It was very funny- although it doesn’t sound it.

findingmyfeet12 · 09/05/2019 11:06

Of course he had to go. But it is utterly baffling that he would have done this. Apart from anything else, he is clever and media savvy and needs the job......

This.

The fact that he would have known this was a sackable offence is the only thing that makes me believe his excuse.

His apology however was totally disrespectful and dismissive.

findingmyfeet12 · 09/05/2019 11:07

The red sauce comment shows that he was unrepentant to the end and I hope no one else now employs him in a media role.

greenlloon · 09/05/2019 11:07

What did he mean by 'Red sauce?? it was a reference to a crappy segment of his show where he invited members of the public to guess what a b/c level celebrity would have on a sausage sandwich

Ghanagirl · 09/05/2019 11:08

@GinDaddy
I think he should get sacked I don’t want this racist getting paid by my money to pretend he’s sorry.
I think you need to “wake up”

Redshoeblueshoe · 09/05/2019 11:09

I'm glad he's been sacked, but I expect he'll have a new job by tea time.

moomin11 · 09/05/2019 11:09

Apparently he's been fired

ThatCurlyGirl · 09/05/2019 11:09

Like others I cannot fathom how he didn't think there would be huge kickback from the tweet.

Surely he must have thought of the disgusting connotations, although I've never liked him he's obviously an intelligent man.

I just can't understand how even if he thought it would be funny (ugh) he posted it without thinking it wouldn't be seen as racist. But then why would he post it if he knew he'd be in hugely hot water? Utterly baffling.

FWIW a few people I know have worked with him and even decades back said he is an absolute cunt and a bully. Very self important. But smart and quick witted, so again I just cannot understand his thought process behind the tweet.

pineapplebryanbrown · 09/05/2019 11:10

I do remember when all the monkeys dressed up as people were used for comic (not racist) effect - riding bicycles etc I think. But that must be 30-40 years ago, you'd have to have been in a time capsule since not to realise this would cause offense. Although - on the flip side - ignoring it would give it less power possibly. I wonder if small children today would even know about the old bananas on the football pitch connotations.

findingmyfeet12 · 09/05/2019 11:10

I wish people would stop referring to PC at all in this debate.

PC almost indicates that there are degrees of racism and some are ok.

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