To think Radio 5 host Danny Baker cannot stay at the BBC?

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Sorry if theres a post on this already.
Link www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7009283/BBC-Radio-5-Live-host-Danny-Baker-tweets-racist-Royal-Baby-monkey-image.html

He ought to go immediately.

On another point to the poster saying it will end db's Career? You are joking. Didn't do clarkson much harm. There's a huge backlash against the overly zealous pc brigade

For context the poster said the father is ginger the mother doesn't look black so how can the picture be offensive (paraphrasing obviously) so saying oh she doesn't look black is offensive imo

But @Dana28 you didn't know about the connection racists make and now you do - it is a pure and simple fact that these comparisons are made. So our experience as a minority is more relevant to the debate than someone blindly saying they haven't ever noticed it.

Nobody is debating whether or not you've seen racism first hand, we are upset that you don't seem to be acknowledging that because it does exist the picture was utterly offensive, hurtful and disgusting.

It's also an opportunity to educate people who haven't experienced it first hand - that's all we are trying to do in our posts directed to you.

Dana you also said Meghan markle didn't look black to you do you not realise how offensive that is ?

Why is it offensive to not realise someones racial heritage if it isn't

My interpretation is based on my experience, the same as your interpretation is based on yours.

In which case you must recognise that DB’s experiences of reporting on this exact, specific insult being hurled at black football players, means it is absolutely not possible that he wasn’t aware of the racist connotations.

Although Gina Yashere did say this "You need to acknowledge that never in history has anyone insulted a royal baby. They've always been off limits" which is demonstrably untrue.

I don't recall any media figures insulting royal babies like this before. Lots of people like to be a bit edgy by posting "latest parasite" on facebook, but professional journalists, no.

So our experience as a minority is more relevant to the debate than someone blindly saying they haven't ever noticed it.

So are you suggesting that i should not contribute because my opinion does not accord with yours?

ThatCurlyGirl
You have a lot of patience
overly zealous pc brigade
And, with that, my bingo card is full......

I now think it was all a publicity stunt to get Danny baker back in the news
He smells the zeitgeist, Trump is in the White House, authoritarian leaders are on the rise, racism misogyny and bigotry are the order of the day
he is tweeting to his base, it's a dog whistle to the British chapter of the KKK

LBC will lap him up. They love the Angry White Guy. Just look at Farage. It’s almost as if some sections of the media are promoting the far right. I’m sure DB will be happy to be their “hard done by” poster boy.

Why is it offensive to not realise someones racial heritage if it isn't

Because it shows you have a stereotypical image of what people of a particular culture look like, and you’re revealing that stereotype when you say some people don’t live up to it.

@Dana28

No, I'm saying that the opinion you have shared is based on a belief that denied the reality of people of colour.

For example people who make homophobic comments and are then told that these comments are offensive because xyz are allowed to change their behaviour and acknowledge that their previous wording was offensive. We are all learning throughout our lives.

I'm genuinely really glad you're part of the debate because it's vital that society is educated about racism. I think I've been pretty measured in my responses and tried to explain the reality of the situation.

I don't understand what your argument is and why you seem angry and defensive - you didn't realise something happens, then lots of people said actually it does.

Dana here's a huge backlash against the overly zealous pc brigade

if you want anyone to treat your interpretation as valid, you're going to have to treat other people's interpretations as valid, too. Calling them "the overly zealous pc brigade" is not doing that.

And frankly, not all interpretations are valid. If I told you that Danny Baker's tweet of "Also, guessing it was my turn in the barrel" last night meant he'd literally been put inside an empty barrel, would that be valid?

If 30 people tell me, "no, he's not saying he's in a barrel", can I keep saying, "but I read it as him saying he's in a barrel"?

I really can';t be doing with the 'I'm colourblind, me' brigade. Bully for you being able to be so. I bet plenty of BAME people would love to be colourblind too, but they don't automatically have that luxury.

I do know the Royal family through the ages have been inbred and suffered madness and weak intellect and would have assumed thus was the joke Is that funny?

Surely if he was, indeed, appalled he would have issued a sincere sounding apology. Rather than suggesting it was anyone’s fault but his?

If he was appalled you would have expected a whiff of a 'that's not what I meant' sort of desperation.

If he had meant it, and was simply backtracking to save his career, you would expect something overly-sincere and self-serving in tone.

If he was appalled you would have expected a whiff of a 'that's not what I meant' sort of desperation

He didn’t panic. This is what his first response was:-

I really can';t be doing with the 'I'm colourblind, me' brigade.

Me neither WeepingWillow, and I don't believe them. Nine times out of ten people who say this follow up with a comment referencing someone's skin colour.

As for all this throwing back onto people who immediately saw the racist connotation in the tweet and claiming they are the racists for seeing it, appalling.

There never was and never will be any justification or excuse for that tweet from Danny Baker.

That Danny Baker apology in full:

"whipped some up"- you're looking to be outraged.
"mind not diseased"- no, YOU'RE racist!
"it's possible connotations" - hardly anyone would think this was racist.
"and that's it" - whether I was offensive is totally unimportant

Its possible connotations- who was waffling on about his intelligence earlier?

No one is more correct than the other In this case you're wrong. You've never encountered racism, you're unaware of the impact. People are telling you. You're not listening. You're wrong.

do know the Royal family through the ages have been inbred and suffered madness and weak intellect and would have assumed thus was the joke Is that funny?
No it’s not remotely funny - describing people as inbreds is vile.
Derxa, where was that post - sorry, it’s a very long thread - I’ll report it.

Why is it offensive to not realise someones racial heritage if it isn't
You're denying them their heritage; that's what slavers did.
You're refusing to recognise their heritage; that's rude and it whitewashes (using the word deliberately) them from history thereby marginalising what we as colonists have done.

Every black or mixed race kid (or their parents) knew exactly what he meant to convey.

It was so bloody blatant, I think most white people did as well.

And I don't buy the 'I didn't make the connection between a mixed raced baby and a chimp because I'm not racist' rubbish that people come out with. I'm white, I don't follow football but I still hear on the news about the scums that throw bananas, make monkey sounds etc you'd have to live in a bubble not to know.

Danny Baker is a nasty piece of work and I still 100% believe he did this on purpose for publicity for his tour.

Well I hope Meghan is busy looking after her baby and hasn't seen the news etc bloody horrible man 😡

I think it says a lot that the strongest non-racist defence of the image (that I've seen) boils down to 'yeah, I agree it's a dehumanising image but Danny was actually making a joke that the baby is going to be less than human because one of his parents is Royal and therefore this 2-day baby is doomed to be cognitively impaired due to inbreeding.'

What kind of a dick pokes fun at a newborn anyway?

Exactly, Sinister!

This is a BABY, for heaven's sake!