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To have a nanny who smokes?

123 replies

crispysausagerolls · 03/05/2019 15:08

Please for the love of god if I am being unreasonable asking this, don’t yell at me via the medium of typing πŸ˜‚πŸ™ˆ

I am looking for a nanny who will have DS for one afternoon a week and I think I have someone great but I just realised she smokes as she smells of it and I am not sure if it’s ok - mostly because I’ve seen so many posts on here of the smoke sticking to the clothes and then DS passively smoking through that even if she is not smoking around him? Is that really a thing? Quite hard to find someone for this length of time so unsure if I’m being ridiculous discounting her for a seemingly small reason.

No yelling 😬

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Alsohuman · 03/05/2019 15:36

Most smokers can certainly go more than a couple of hours, they’d never fly anywhere if they couldn’t.

TheGrey1houndSpeaks · 03/05/2019 15:37

She absolutely will be popping out for a fag, don’t kid yourself, op.

IndianaJonesAndTheTempleOfDoom · 03/05/2019 15:37

4 hours a week with a one year old?

And she's the best one?

Of course I'd choose her.

I'm normally called rabidly anti smoking on here but I don't think there will be a problem with a person watching your child fours a week. For ffs. Far more pollution going for a walk near cars.

TheGrey1houndSpeaks · 03/05/2019 15:38

They can if they have to, but this lady won’t have any such restrictions, will she?

IndianaJonesAndTheTempleOfDoom · 03/05/2019 15:39

f she smokes so much that you can smell it on her then she is a pretty heavy smoker.
Smelling like smoke doesn't make slmeone a heavy smoker. You only need one cigarette to smell like it. Or to be next to someone like a partner smoking.

PinkCrayon · 03/05/2019 15:40

Its a no way from me.

LL83 · 03/05/2019 15:40

Depends what other options you have. Not ideal, but as it is one day a week and she is great in every other way I would consider her.

wizzywig · 03/05/2019 15:41

My nannys cigarette smell doesnt transfer onto my kids. I wouldnt like her to smoke infront of my kids though.

Babdoc · 03/05/2019 15:43

The children of smokers are more likely to become smokers themselves as adults. They associate the smell with being loved and cared for, and the habit is normalised by seeing adults they respect and love doing it. Your child will have the smell all over their clothes after being picked up or cared for by this nanny, and quite apart from the short term exposure to carcinogenic chemicals, you are risking forming long term positive associations with a fatal habit.
I would never have employed a smoking nanny. I even refused one because she used the same ghastly cloying perfume as my abusive mother and it triggered me. I couldn’t have coped with my DC stinking of it.

SunshineCake · 03/05/2019 15:45

I can't understand anyone being so stupid as to smoke these days.

When I was looking for a nanny job being a non smoker was almost the first requirement.

PinkGlitter123 · 03/05/2019 15:48

A no from me. Wouldn't want someone popping out for fag breaks or passing that smell onto my kid.

Wellthatwastricky · 03/05/2019 15:48

It's up to you but things I'd like to refute from the above posts

  1. I used to smoke and only did so on my lunch break at work. I easily went several hours without cigarettes. I often went the whole day, if at a work event and it wasn't appropriate.

  2. someone above with no actual knowledge of the nanny has already stated as though it's fact the nanny will smoke. How do you know? If you trust her with your child in other respects then really you should trust her not to smoke on duty. Maybe she is too professional to do that?

  3. I know quite a few of the staff at my son's last nursery smoked as I'd see them in the car park and occasionally could smell it on them. Not once, ever, did he ever come home smelling of smoke - just that weird institutional nursery smell, which actually was hideous.

I think you'd be mad to turn down childcare with someone who you clearly otherwise think is right for your needs. As someone said above the risks of third hand would be so low in this instance. Maybe ask her outright, if it troubles you, before walking away.

UnhealthySugarOverload · 03/05/2019 15:50

Usual frothing tripe on show here, air pollution is said to be responsible for 40000 deaths per year in the UK. As far as I know no-one advises washing their clothes after they've been out in the open air before handling babies.
Third hand smoke pish is simply another method public health uses to demonise smoking/smokers, can't find the research at the moment but you'd need to suck on a smoker's cardi for about a billion years before you'd suffer any ill effects.
No reason not to employ the best candidate for the job just because she may smoke.

UnderTheSeaWithMe · 03/05/2019 15:52

I wouldn't do it to my DC but it's your DC so your choice. I wouldn't hire a vaper either. I am a non smoker and our home is a smoke free zone.

LillithsFamiliar · 03/05/2019 15:53

I wouldn't. It's not just the third hand smoke, it's the normalising of smoking as a habit.
I'm very anti-smoking. My DF smoked and died of lung cancer.

MirriVan · 03/05/2019 15:53

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IndianaJonesAndTheTempleOfDoom · 03/05/2019 15:55

We live near a nursery, the workers all have their fag breaks on our street. I wonder if people think nurseries don't employ smokers? Confused

champagnebrain · 03/05/2019 15:56

Puke! Never, never, never!

IndianaJonesAndTheTempleOfDoom · 03/05/2019 15:57

If you have five people who will be in charge of your child but one will makes you feel comfortable. Pick that one. The real risk is the kid climbing up a book case. Getting into the toilet cleaner. Falling in a pond. Not third hand smoke from 4 hours a week

CoffeeCoffeeTea · 03/05/2019 15:58

If she is a heavy smoker than I would definitely say no. Who is to say when you are not there that she will not go outside for a quick smoke.
Do you know how many she smokes?
Recently I found out that my SiL smoked, she has been married to DB for 20 years. She would have one or two cigarettes a day, never in front of her kids (or any of the family). She never smelt/smelled of smoke. So if your nanny is an occasional smoker I might not be so worried.

PamelaX · 03/05/2019 15:58

It's the fact that you can smell it now that would put me off.

One of my kids TA smokes. You can't smell anything and you wouldn't know. Thats' fine by me.

notfromstepford · 03/05/2019 15:59

I know a nanny and she's a smoker. She has never smoked while working.

People assuming that she will be popping in to the garden for a smoke are wrong. There are nannies out there who do smoke but are utterly professional and don't do it all in works time.

Some of the workers in DS nursery smoke as I've seen them on the way to and from work, but DS has never come home smelling of smoke.

It's entirely your call and what is and isn't acceptable to you. If I was to hire a nanny that was perfect in every way but she was a smoker I'm not sure that'd stop me hiring her. If she smoked while in charge of my children that's different and not acceptable, but plenty of smokers go through a full working day without smoking.

crispysausagerolls · 03/05/2019 16:02

Ok so more information:

She is our part time housekeeper - she has therefore known DS since birth and they absolutely adore each other as he sees her several times a week, so I thought she would be a good option to have him for an afternoon as he is getting older/won’t start nursery until he’s 3 and I would like a little break once a week. I had 0 idea that she smoked as I had never noticed it before, but I noticed that she smelled of it today and also earlier this week so I am not sure why I haven’t noticed it before and I am not sure what to tell her about why I have changed my mind - should I even keep her on as a housekeeper?! She is so lovely otherwise, it’s really such a shame.

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Calicot · 03/05/2019 16:06

No definitely not

IndianaJonesAndTheTempleOfDoom · 03/05/2019 16:08

Oh fgs. She's already touched everything already and you only noticed it today. Do you think maybe she risked speaking to a real life smoker?