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My son needs help - please!

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FitMum87 · 03/05/2019 01:06

Not an AIBU but I've never posted before and need as much advice as possible.

Will try not to drip feed but thank you for reading in advance. My son is 11. He is autistic in a mainstream school. He is is high functioning with low functioning autism. Physically incredible but socially struggles.

He is being badly bullied in his school. For months lots of his classmates have bullied him and then recruited more bullies. This went on for 3 months and weekly I would be in telling his teacher and her response was always 'I'll have a word' regardless of severity. He had no friends, he was broken. He was punched repeatedly, his stuff broken/stolen, slammed into walls. One time a boy pushed him and my DS pushed him back and only my son was in trouble. The teacher would let them get away with anything (she has been very open about her lack of punishments for the bullies and also big punishments from my son).

Here goes the main bulk of my sadness: these are all teachers. Will change names.

Teachers incidents:
1. DS had problems on the school playground with football and struggled socially to play the game properly. The SENCO (who is a cunt) put in place he can have 10mins each week with the ball alone to practice. He went and asked the playground staff (year 5 teaching assistant) if he could have the ball and the teacher repeated what he said louder and in a mocking ‘retarded’ voice in front of all his bullies. This teacher has admitted this 🙄🙄 and when I informed Mrs W (DSs actual teacher) she ‘spoke’ to this teacher but did not escalate it to the headteacher so the headteacher was unaware until I told her about it and DS is still yet to get an apology from this teacher. Headteacher has said it has now been adequately dealt with.
2. Mrs W (DS teacher) I used to have a good relationship with and over the 3 months of so many of his class bullying him I spoke to her about it and got the response of ‘oh I didn’t know, I’ll speak to them’ - regardless of situation, punching, stealing. SEN, bullying policy is to escalate physical or repeated matters, this was not the case. Parents to be updated - didn’t happen. Victim to have confidence building - didn’t happen. Bully to be adequately punished - all she did was speak to the parents at school pick up. Her words 🙄. So after 3 months of her not doing anything DS had nothing left and that’s when I went to the headteacher and Mrs W has told no one anything about it all when it should have been escalated so DS was still being bullied and no one being punished. One kid pushed him, DS pushed him back and only DS was punished. So this teacher is happy to punish DS and no one else. This teacher was NOT happy I escalated it and we had it out on the playground - I quoted every policy and she admitted everything but saw nothing wrong in her actions. - she is still a cunt but will get to that in a bit.
3. So this was all 3 weeks ago and everyone was ‘intensely’ working to improve things. On Monday one of the kids grabbed him by the collar and threw him around, shouted in his face. Then DS told the on-duty playground attendant (his own TA) and the TA said he’d ‘keep an eye out’. No punishment, nothing, didn’t even check if DS was ok, no policy being followed at all! So then the kid that did this to DS then starts crying and telling everyone that DS told on him so now the ‘recruiting bullying’ starts again so he gets other kids in his face shouting at him. Obviously nothing happened and I had to go into school and tell the teacher and headteacher. Headteacher dealt with it and his teacher Mrs W told DS off for not telling her and I told her that he did tell her for 3 months and she did nothing! Funnily enough she didn’t like that. So teacher is still a cunt. DS did what he should of done and no protection from one TA and being told off for doing what he should have done by his own teacher
4. So today.... 🙄 Thursday afternoon he has this Spanish teacher who anytime anyone makes a noise he announces to the class ‘just a reminder if DS distracts anyone, talks to you or makes a noise, just ignore him’. He doesn’t do this to any other child and does this repeatedly each week or Thursday and Friday afternoons. Friday is ICT. This is the last straw. 4 teacher who he HAS to see not helping him, infact making it worse.

SENCO - oh boy - what an arse! One who doesn’t want an EHCP for a severely autistic boy in DDs class as it’s ‘a lot of work’. All the SEN parents hate her. DS was repeatedly (like 20-30 times A DAY!) bulled by one kid (KID R) and when it was brought to their attention (SENCO and headteacher) rather than punishing the bully and teaching them to be better they wanted to ‘rebuild’ the friendship in play therapy session. I then said ‘DS doesn’t want to do that as he doesn’t feel comfortable around KID R and has requested that he just stops bullying him’. To which the SENCO replied: ‘yes he said the same to me but I thought it would help’
🙄 WHAT THE FUCK. DS (victim) has expressed he doesn’t want to be put with the bully as he doesn’t believe he will stop and doesn’t feel comfortable and the SENCO was forcing that he does that!! Funnily enough DS was told that KID R is going through some ‘family struggles’ so they are giving him some extra chances!! my Ex destroyed DS for many years emotionally and physically and is never allowed near him again. If anyone has family struggles it’s him!!! 🤬🤬🤬

OP posts:
IAmTheMumWhoKnocks · 01/10/2019 22:01

Just wanted to update everyone (I did a name change as I am not fit anymore and I have found cake.... lots of it haha) on my son.

He started his new school a few weeks ago. The support and communication is incredible. He is happy and content and enjoying his new independence at secondary school.

Thank you to everyone who posted when we were going through the issues.

LewisFan · 01/10/2019 22:06

Find another school

Ds has same issues and was bullied throughout - I regret not moving him sooner.

He's in college now but missed out on reaching.his GCSE potential because I kept giving school a chance.

No more chances. Remove him - see if the GP can support with a medical cert for school absence if needed and see what other schools have spaces.

Hes 11; he's got time to recover and do his best before the next stage of his education

LewisFan · 01/10/2019 22:07

Oh sorry just seen the update... that'll teach me to rtft!

Perunatop · 01/10/2019 22:11

If in England perhaps make a safeguarding complaint to Ofsted.

SleepWarrior · 01/10/2019 22:53

Only just read the thread for the first time but how wonderful to have a happy ending (well, beginning really, at the new school!).

Has the dissociative behavior stopped now he's feeling more settled and happy?

LionelRitchieStoleMyNotebook · 01/10/2019 23:21

I've also NC, was there an outcome with the other school OP? I know what's important is that your son is safe, happy and thriving (which is so wonderful to read our actually brought a limo to my throat), but I have such strong feelings about injustice and there were adults who needed to learn serious lessons about how to treat children appropriately, especially those with particular needs. I hope you taking a stand will affect things positively in future for children attending the primary school.

Excited101 · 02/10/2019 00:19

I’m so glad it’s going well op, your son sounds so lovely!

RageAgainstTheVendingMachine · 02/10/2019 00:33

Delighted for you OP Flowers Cake Brew

PickedByYou · 02/10/2019 00:35

Great update OP. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

DuMondeB · 02/10/2019 00:51

Pleased to hear a positive outcome!

My eldest has a similar diagnosis and was in a similarly difficult place at that age (I ended up pulling him out of school for a year and then he went back into a different school). He is now in his second year at uni.

Fingers crossed for your lad for the future.

strongteawith2sugars · 03/03/2020 17:30

Hi everyone, had to name change again as
My crazy ex started stalking my mumsnet account.

So my son is doing really well, I updated his new school before he started and they've been brilliant.

I managed to finally get my daughter out of the school too. Took a while but she is extremely happy to be out and in a new school. She was incredibly tough and brace and didn't even say goodbye, just walked away. So proud.

Thank you so much for everyone's support. We are all doing very well and are very happy Smile

Serenschintte · 03/03/2020 18:18

Could you afford some private therapy for him? My DS was badly bullied and therapy once a week slowly but surely made a difference and he came back.

Serenschintte · 03/03/2020 18:18

X Post. So glad things are looking better for you all.

JenNtonic · 03/03/2020 18:24

No idea, no experience, just wanted to say you're doing a cracking job at being a mum xx

DustyMaiden · 03/03/2020 18:25

So pleased to hear your update.

Fluffybutter · 03/03/2020 18:29

Great update Star

strongteawith2sugars · 04/03/2020 01:35

@Serenschintte because of his diagnosis he received free counselling and his new school have a full time mental health nurse and measures In place for him and other students should they need additional support or counselling. We are very lucky that his new school place a great deal
Of importance on mental health 😊

strongteawith2sugars · 04/03/2020 01:36

@Serenschintte I’m sorry to hear your so. Was badly bullied too. Breaks my heart to think of children suffering and others being unkind. I’m happy to hear that he is ok now and wish him (and you) all the best for the future x

strongteawith2sugars · 04/03/2020 01:37

Thank you everyone, mumsnet has been really incredibly kind to me and I really appreciate it Flowers x

Batmanandbobbin · 04/03/2020 02:56

My heart broke reading op Flowers

Batmanandbobbin · 04/03/2020 03:03

Just read update amazing. So happy for you all.

Geauxtigers · 04/03/2020 03:08

I'm a teacher. I'm sorry he's been so let down. I don't blame the individual teacher. I blame the system. Don't be afraid to take the system the man

StoppinBy · 04/03/2020 03:10

Put in a formal complaint to the education department. Fully expect that they will come back to you with an answer of having investigated and found the school to not be in the wrong but do it anyway as it needs to be in writing for the next person whose child is treated like this.

My heart breaks for you and I know exactly the sort of stress you are under. This was us last year, I am so glad I pulled my daughter out of her last school. Our SEN teacher was also a bitch.

My daughter was once knocked to the ground, punched and then held and pulled back by her shirt which was choking her round the throat. This was all over the other girl wanting something my daughter had (which belonged to my daughter) and my daughter refusing to give it to her.

When she told her teacher who happened to also be the SEN teacher she replied with 'I will look in to that'. Her response was to have a brief chat with the child who had attacked my daughter (they were both grade 1) and then to forget about it. It wasn't even mentioned to me until my daughter told me on the way home despite her bitch of a teacher actually saying hi to me that after noon at school pick up.

So many other things that I wont get in to of course but I found that as soon as I made a complaint all the teachers closed ranks and defended their own even though they were in the wrong, there was no coming back from that and things just got worse, they treated both myself and my daughter very badly. There's a special place in hell for teacher like that, you put your trust in them every day when you drop your child off and they don't deserve that trust one little bit.

On the other hand the teachers at our new school (for the most part anyway) are just wonderful and even the ones I don't particularly click with would never stand by and let a child be physically assaulted while the offending child got away with it.

anotherusernameinthejungle · 04/03/2020 03:32

Remove him. Although this does somewhat remind me of an autistic boy who used to punch people, for doing things like sitting next to him in assigned seating plan, we were told we had to ignore it and don't give him attention for it. Many would hit him back and ended up in the unit for a day! Was horribly unjust and ofcourse kids bullied him, sen or not he was horrible to people and should never of been in mainstream.

Is there any possibility he's starting it?

Beautiful3 · 04/03/2020 03:52

I'd remove him and look else where. I hope you find a better school. Would a specialist school be better or even to home school?

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