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To have left him stuck in the cellar?

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FreddysTash · 02/05/2019 14:13

We have a new starter at work who is a pain in the arse. He’s shadowing me and constantly disappears and is always off exploring rather than doing what he should be doing. This morning we were in the office and he asked me where he should put clinical waste. I told him we put it in the cellar but that we didn’t have time to do it now as we had to go out of office. He said he’d be quick. I said no because it takes ages to get down there, he’d need codes for the lift down there, and two different doors. He grabbed a pen and paper and asked me for the codes. Getting frustrated I wrote down the codes and told him to be really quick and off he goes.

15 minutes later he’s still not back so I check time and decide if he isn’t back by half past I’d do without him. Half past came so I packed up and headed to my car. I’d just set off when I got a frantic phone saying he was stuck in one of the rooms in the cellar. I told him to repeat the code he had and it was right so I said he’d just have to keep trying. I drove off. 5 minutes later he started ringing again. I ignored it. All in all 4 missed calls. I rang him back and he admitted he was in a different room and that’s why the code wasn’t working. I told him I’d be back at lunch. It was 9.45 at the time. He started getting irate saying it stunk down there, it was freezing, pitch black and the wind was hammering on the fire doors. I left him until 11. AIBU as he got stuck because he went where he wasn’t supposed to go?

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SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 04/05/2019 15:39

The OP’s not coming back to this. She is sulking because too many of us haven’t laughed at her ‘hilarious’ actions, and actually think it was pretty vile and bullying behaviour.

TessieVanKendre · 04/05/2019 15:53

Yes. Yes you are. He may have not been doing as he was told but you had no right to leave him like that. He might have been annoying but HE IS A HUMAN BEING. You left him stuck for over an hour. You should have just let him out and then reported him.

This^

What if it was the other way round?

Aridane · 04/05/2019 15:55

Remind him that he is on probation and could lose his job if his behaviour continues in this manner

And if OP’s employers see this thread and recognise her, let’ See if they remind her that she can lose her job if she carries on in this way ( or whether they just fire her)..,

swingofthings · 04/05/2019 16:02

@TatianaLarina, I hope you are not a manager because you are very wrong.

If you tell your staff that they have to wear a helmet to go on a site, you give them the helmet, off they go, sadly, you are later informed that one of the guy fell off a ladder and die and wasn't wearing his helmet. Who do you think is responsible? It's the MANAGER? Why ? Because he should be there to supervise, or delegate the job to someone. That manager will be prosecuted and could go to jail.

In OP's case, not only did she not ensured he was safe before going, but ignored 4 phone calls, deliberately, calls that could have been him saying he couldn't breathe. She would have been in very serious trouble if something have happened.

TatianaLarina · 04/05/2019 18:22

In that circumstance the head of the company is liable.

Which is is why, if you have an irresponsible employee who repeatedly goes rogue, they need to go. They’re a liability for the whole company. Repeatedly not wearing a hard hat for example is gross misconduct and a sackable offence.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 04/05/2019 18:36

But there are right ways and wrong ways to deal with an irresponsible employee, @TatianaLarina - and leaving them locked in a cellar is definitely the wrong way!

Letting him out promptly, bollocking him and/or reporting him would be the right way.

TatianaLarina · 04/05/2019 19:18

For sure and I’ve never said OP dealt with it the right way, but this man is a liability.

NaughtToThreeSadOnions · 04/05/2019 19:21

For sure and I’ve never said OP dealt with it the right way, but this man is a liability

You mean the OP is a liability. With a total disregard for basic health and safety who put her colleuge at risk

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 04/05/2019 19:41

Maybe they are both a liability.

outvoid · 04/05/2019 19:49

Ha, YANBU. I’d have done the same thing and laughed about it.

TatianaLarina · 04/05/2019 20:00

You mean the OP is a liability.

No, not what I meant and not what I said.

jwpetal · 04/05/2019 20:34

This might get you into trouble. As a manager, If I heard this story, I would take it very seriously. Health and safety at the very least. Any number of things could have happened. he was stupid, but so were you.

B3ck89 · 04/05/2019 20:48

Your an absolute twat and hope you get bollocked for it. Surely it’s not a professional role your in when your act like that

ferntwist · 04/05/2019 21:00

Serves him right OP, he was incredibly bossy and unprofessional. You did the right thing.

NaughtToThreeSadOnions · 04/05/2019 21:38

No, not what I meant and not what I said

I know - well done for failing to understand sarcasm and irony!

You should have meant that the op is a
Libility who willingly and delibrately put someones life at risk.

Oh yeah and the fact your defending a bully says far more about you than it does any one

swingofthings · 05/05/2019 06:07

FIn that circumstance the head of the company is liable*
The company is but the person prosecuted will be the manager who was responsible for the safety of the staff in question. Sadly, I know as it happened to someone I know well, despite being no wishful neglect unlike in OP's case.

PaulHollywoodsSexGut · 05/05/2019 06:19

Man this thread is such a twatcatcher.

Acis · 05/05/2019 07:29

A manager manages. Not supervise his every move as if he were child

Refusing to give someone the codes for somewhere he doesn't need to go to and when he needs to be somewhere else isn't "supervising his every move".

TatianaLarina · 05/05/2019 08:04

Sarcasm and irony are not the same thing.

An example of irony would be posters bleating about bullying on this thread.

TatianaLarina · 05/05/2019 08:21

The company is but the person prosecuted will be the manager who was responsible for the safety of the staff in question.

It’s the firm that’s legally liable and the firm that is prosecuted and fined.

A death onsite pertains to more than simply one manager - the practices of the whole company are examined.

Occasionally, the head of the company may be individually prosecuted for manslaughter by gross negligence.

NaughtToThreeSadOnions · 05/05/2019 08:23

Titana - the irony was that you were saying the bloke was dangerous when it was the op that put his life at risk and ignored just basic H&S

The sarcasm was my tone

I know they are different things - you failed to understand either.

Where is any one bullying the OP???? it would only be ironic if we were accusing her of being a bully while bullying her.

TatianaLarina · 05/05/2019 08:40

So now you’ve shifted from your words being ironic, to my words being ironic.

it would only be ironic if we were accusing her of being a bully while bullying her.

Quite.

BarrenFieldofFucks · 05/05/2019 08:42

He should have called someone else. 🤷 His choice to be stuck there so long.

MyKingdomForBrie · 05/05/2019 08:49

@NaughtToThreeSadOnions Tatiana understands completely, she just disagrees. She's also being very polite in the face of you trying to insult her intelligence.

Obviously OP was reckless and dangerous, as was the employee. She should have come back, let him out and then tore a strip off and reported him.

Aridane · 05/05/2019 09:01

< awaiting this being picked up by the tabloids and OP being fired >