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AIBU to dislike my MIL?

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BonnyBarbara · 01/05/2019 19:00

I've been with my partner over 5 years now and I feel I have tried very very hard with his family. I like his dad and have no issue with him, he's always friendly, always talks to me, always the same.

His mum is a totally different story. First of all she has nothing positive to say about her other DIL whom we shall call the Princess. She's been married into the family for about 8 years and is by all accounts (and what I have witnessed) very high maintenance, a proper princess. MIL has called her everything from a pig to a dog (in front of me, which makes me very uncomfortable) and yet to her face it's a different story. In fact when they are together you can only see MIL's shoes hanging out of Princess's backside as she is so far up it. Princess doesn't speak to me much anyway but when MIL and Princess are together, I am pretty much ignored. Even worse when my partner's sister is there. It makes me feel like I am back at school again being excluded. It's painful.

Now the two-facedness of my MIL wouldn't bother me much as she is a bit of a sad gossipy woman and I realise she wants to be on friendly terms with Princess for the sake of seeing her two grandchildren but there's some other things that MIL has done....

Specifically; "forgotten" my birthday two years in a row. Birthday before that "forgot" my name (I kid you not) so I received a birthday card in the post addressed to just my shortened name and minus my surname, hasn't been to my and my partner's house in 4, yes FOUR years - even though we live 50 miles closer to her than she does the Princess (who she sees regularly; I understand there's kids involved), sees my partner when he drops by after work, but I have never been invited for dinner, will pay me a compliment along the lines of "You look nice. For your size", there are loads of little examples.

Basically it's starting to affect my relationship with my other half. In the whole time we have been together there has only been two family meals that we have been invited to. I couldn't attend one due to work commitments and the other one I did - which was okay until I went to sit down next to MIL in the restaurant and she put her handbag on the seat just as I moved to sit next to her.

Now my partner says his family have never really made much of an effort in visiting him or inviting him to stuff, which I accept to a degree but I know (thanks to Facebook) that MIL used to hang out of partner's ex's bum hole too! Meals out, cinema, theatre, all tagged in together on old FB posts.

My partner knows how I feel. He did used to make excuses for his mum "Oh she didn't mean it like that" but some recent events have made him say to me "I used to think she was just thoughtless but some of the things she's done does look malicious" and I have begged him to tell me if she doesn't like me. I don't want him to not have a relationship with her, it's his mum, I have no right to demand that but I have said to him that this has upset me a lot (as I have really tried with her, used to text her, invite her out, suggest family meals etc, invited her to meet my family - all refused with cr ap excuses) and I kind of want an answer:

Does she like me? If not, what's the problem? If I can rectify it, I'll try. If not, the family can fuck off and he can see his mum and family without me, I won't be at family occasions and funerals etc anymore.

I think the not knowing where I stand or what I have done is the worst part for me. I really wish she would have a pop at me and then we can sort it or never have to make the effort with each other again.

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slipperywhensparticus · 01/05/2019 19:04

And breathe!

Is it the end of the world if she doesn't kiss your arse? Why would you WANT to be part of her circle?

cochineal7 · 01/05/2019 19:07

She sounds tiring. But I am not sure what you are looking for: she is unkind to you. Why do you need her to spell it out? Don’t give it a second thought, don’t compare yourself with either your SILs or your DH’s ex as that will not lead anywhere. Ignore and lead your life your way. Let your DH have his own relationship with his mum - this seems to be the case anyway. For the rest: grey rock. Free your mind to focus on nicer people.

BonnyBarbara · 01/05/2019 19:09

I really don't. She's not my kind of person but being with her makes me feel pretty shit. And I just want to know why she doesn't seem to like me. I am literally the only person whose arsehole she doesn't kiss. The only person who doesn't get included, invited out, tagged in stuff on fb etc.

I feel like I am at school again.

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ContessaIsOnADietDammit · 01/05/2019 19:09

Oh dear, that sounds very hard. Your DP sounds decent though, if he's noticed that she's being malicious. So often they simply won't have it that dear old mum might be at fault.

BonnyBarbara · 01/05/2019 19:11

I did tell him last week that his mum can fuck right off now. Deleted her number from my phone and told him to see his family on his own. I feel sorry for him though. I'd be gutted if he told me that about my family.

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Notreallyhappy · 01/05/2019 19:16

No not at...I dont like mine either,,, tried it she didn't like me...finished me off when she said I gossip about her & cant be trusted, as i told my family on a day out together she doesnt drink alcohol..mad woman

Notonthestairs · 01/05/2019 19:21

Ok well let's take it as read that you and MIL are not close. You don't need to be. You need to have a functional business relationship - polite family birthdays/weddings/Christmas - nothing more. It might develop further than that, or not.

But stop looking for her approval. You don't need it.

IsYourGoogleBroken · 01/05/2019 19:27

I got the cut of your gib when you said "princess", not nice is it? Reinforced by "bum holes".

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 01/05/2019 19:28

I read your updates OP and unfortunately I think you've taken the only available option. You'll possibly feel happier for having eradicated her negative presence from your life, but there are two things you should bear in mind if ever you're tempted to waver in your position. One is that she'll never change. And two is that these personalities run true to type, and even if they do change for any duration, they'll revert back to type again at some stage.

You can't make some like you, and unfortunately people like this also likely to despise you more the more you try. There's not much you can do with a personality like that. I understand it's hurtful, letting go of your own false expectations of a warm and close relationship with your partner's family. But although it's painful at first, there is also a sense of peace, equilibrium and liberation that comes from accepting the inevitable.

I know these things because I've been there; albeit I barely knew my MiL for the decade I was with my DH before DC came along. Perhaps I'd also been labouring under the misconception that when/if we got to know each other better, we'd get on. Of course this didn't happen. If it's any comfort to you, she still persists in addressing me as my husband's name (a name that has never been mine and that I've never used) despite having been told to stop on more than one occasion.

She's no loss. Neither is yours by the sound of it, and I hope you'll eventually find you're happier with her out of the picture!

Singlenotsingle · 01/05/2019 19:35

Why can't you just ask her? "MIL, its obvious that you don't like me but I don't know what I've done wrong. Is there anything I can do to repair the relationship between us, because if not, it's probably best that I stay out of your way." And then you go as LC as you can.

Motoko · 01/05/2019 19:43

Well, she's not going to tell you why she doesn't like you, so it's pointless wondering, although I know that's easier said than done.

Just stop seeing them. You've done your bit, trying for years, so it's time to stop and step back from her.

VeraWangTwang · 01/05/2019 19:44

Don't waste.your energy. She knows her behaviour is appalling. She doesn't have to like you but she shouldn't be rude and hurtful
You deserve to be treated better than this

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 01/05/2019 19:48

There's no point wondering what you've done to make her dislike you. Nothing probably. She's mean and she doesn't want to like you. She has ignored all your attempts to build a reasonable relationship. I suspect she gets satisfaction about that.
But this is not acceptable. Your DP needs to man up. He needs to say to her, OP is my partner and my family and you need to respect me by respecting her and treat her better. He doesn't need to say it upsets you - it upsets him! That's all. As pp said you just need a functional civil relationship.
I don't think she should be allowed to drive you away from gatherings etc.. that reinforces that you are an outsider and however you do it, you will be blamed and it will drive a wedge between you and DP. No. You need to go to these events and he needs to stand up for you and if people are excluding you, he needs to say something.
I suspect MILS attitude might change if he did that.
Forget about winning her approval. You don't need it. You just need basic human politeness. If she can't give that even when her DS has asked for it.. then he needs to consider how to respond to that.
Also, it doesn't sound fair that the SIL is referred to as the Princess. Maybe you could make moves to get friendlier with her outside of MIL's influence. At least you'd have one extra person to talk to at family events. It sounds like FIL is a reasonable person too. All you need is a few people to recognise it and treat you properly and MIL will see that her strategy isn't working. Best of luck x

BonnyBarbara · 01/05/2019 19:52

Thank you for all your advice.

I know all this. I know she's an arse. I know what she's like. I just never expected to have any issues with my MIL and it's the last thing I'd want. Me and my DP have a great relationship, this is the only fly in the ointment. My family love my DP, he's even said he's more comfortable with my family than his own.

Just not looking forward to a family holiday in Tenerife with DP's family in July. It's going to be hell on earth cos my DP will be spending time with his dad (who he doesn't get to see that often due to his dad's job as a long distance lorry driver) and his brother and sister's DP, and I know it will be MIL, Princess and DP sister excluding me for a week. DP has already said that we'll go off and do our own thing as much as possible. It just shouldn't have to be this way and it certainly wouldn't if we were holidaying with my family.

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BonnyBarbara · 01/05/2019 19:57

And you know what: DP doesn't even want to go on this holiday. We're only going because I said we should make the effort and because if we don't go, I know full well I would get the blame for it!

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Beachbodynowayready · 01/05/2019 20:02

Stay home, a week of you time will more than compensate for her bitchy remarks!
She has made her bed op, no need to make any effort at all imo.

BonnyBarbara · 01/05/2019 20:08

SIL is a no-go. I thought we could be allies but she doesn't want to know and when she's with MIL, they act like best friends and SIL also excludes me. Due to dynamics and location, would be very difficult to see her outside of family events.

Strangely enough, BIL is always friendly. Seems the men of the family are far nicer.

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Dljlr · 01/05/2019 20:14

Why do you care whether or not she likes you? You evidently don't like her. And even if she was pleasant to your face, you know her to be unpleasant behind others' backs, so you still wouldn't trust it.

This, from your op: I have really tried with her, used to text her, invite her out, suggest family meals etc, invited her to meet my family - all refused with cr ap excuses) would drive me mad if I were your MIL. I'm not interested in doing that crap with my partner's mother. It's no reflection on her but our only commonality is we both love the same bloke (her son). Happy to leave it there.

Anyway. Since you don't like her (if your ops anything to go by) and she doesn't appear to like you much either, it's a blessing she rarely invites you anywhere or comes to visit.

Heartofit · 01/05/2019 20:18

Were you invited to Tenerife then? I thought you were never included?

BonnyBarbara · 01/05/2019 20:22

@Heartofit Ridiculous comment. She's hardly going to arrange a family holiday and invite only my partner.

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Heartofit · 01/05/2019 21:04

It was a genuine question.

Justonemorepancake · 01/05/2019 21:09

Cancel the holiday. Don't go. If DP also then decides not to go, who cares if she thinks it's down to you? Stop trying so hard and just cut her out. No drama, no trying to find out why, just stop. DP doesn't need to play piggy in the middle unless he wants to advocate for you, then he's welcome to.

BonnyBarbara · 01/05/2019 21:11

@Heartofit It would actually be fantastic if she did. DP would not be able to defend her (not that he does much anyway) and he could address it with her directly.

What I mean by excluding is in conversations etc. Tenerife will be a MIL, Princess and DP sister acting like best mates. And here's an example of something they've all done: at Christmas kept offering me a glass of wine, which I didn't want but kept on and on. When I agreed, MIL poured the dregs of the bottle they'd had into a glass for me, turned to the others and said "I'll get a cold one for us"

Maybe I'm sensitive or a much better host but I find things like that are pointedly bitchy. And always directed at me and not the others.

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Jakesmumandbump · 01/05/2019 21:22

She sounds like an unpleasant and jealous manipulator but rise above it, you’re better than her and a far kinder person. Attend family gatherings, be polite and show up the fact that you’re well raised and mannered and from a good family, this will highlight her bad behaviour. Focus on your relationship, family and the good friends you have in life and put her firmly to the back of your mind where she belongs.

JonSlow · 01/05/2019 21:43

And always directed at me and not the others.

That’ll be because you are looking for it being directed at you. If you are looking for the issue, you’ll always find something to make into it

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