To smoke in my own garden

[LittleBear4]

I am a smoker. I smoke 10 fags a day and I'm not planning on giving it up yet (one day!).

In smoke in my garden, I've got two neighbours either side and one every time I'm smoking will come out and say 'it stinks out here' and will start to cough loudly.

It's really getting on my nerves, I can't move down the end of the garden because it's tiny and would make no difference at all but AIBU to hate the passive aggressive comments when I'm smoking in my garden?

You are in your right to smoke in your garden, but I also sympathise with the neighbour. My NDN smokes far more than you do, I have 2 children and the smell is terrible. With it being nice, we've been in the garden most of the weekend and today I'm wheezy, my chest feels very heavy and I can smell smoke on the clothes I was wearing yesterday. So, it's really not great but there's absolutely nothing I can do about it.

Your smoking stinks. I feel sorry for your neighbours.

Not only does it stink, it’s toxic and deadly and is killing you and those who have to smoke passively because of you and people like you.

If you think you want to give up eventually, what are you waiting for? Just want to be sure you’ve caused enough damage for the tax payer to pick up first?

There are many things we are able to do legally but which manners and consideration for others prevent us from doing.

If my NDNs lit up I’d say, ‘There goes the neighbourhood.’ And move.

Nice, middle class people do not smoke or play music in their gardens.

Just want to be sure you’ve caused enough damage for the tax payer to pick up first?
Do you have any idea how much smoking contributes to the economy vs how much it costs the country?

Nice, middle class people do not smoke or play music in their gardens.
Seriously, we need more biscuits.

Smoking stinks. It's only a personal choice issue if you are the only one affected.

My late mum conned herself with the "I'm paying for my cancer care in taxes" bullshit. And then, when she was having cancer care she realised.

The thing is you are forcing the smell and poisons on your neighbours. I would get annoyed if I couldn't enjoy being in my garden because of the stench of fag smoke wafting over 10 times everyday!

I think I have been your neighbour in the past OP! I’ve certainly complained about the smell and negative health impact of passive smoking. Our smoking neighbour overheard, and was really offended by our comments. It all became very awkward and ultimately I took action in the building’s body corporate to establish a designated smoking area where smoke drift would be minimal. Needless to say that neighbourly relationship was very unpleasant from that point onwards but I did what needed to be done for the health of my family.

As many people on this thread have told you, I think your behaviour is both unreasonable and antisocial. You need to find a solution that can balance the rights of individuals like yourself to smoke tobacco products with the rights of your neighbours for a living environment that is not hazardous to their health.

YABU. After all, they are making the comments in their own garden.

AllesAusLiebe

Cbatothinkofaname

Guess what? Everything kills you, everybody will die one day. ‘

This must be one of the thickest things I’ve read on MN

Everyone will die one die - duh, no shit Sherlock!

Everything kills you - er nope, everything doesn’t.

Anyways, if smokers want to keep pouring money into govt coffers while also reducing their life expectancy then fine, it’s up to them. The thing that I really can’t get my head round is knowing that statistically your own children are more likely to become smokers, even if you don’t smoke in front of them. But still, up to them isn’t it.

madcatladyforever

I don't smoke but for fuck sake sake why donto they just go in when you are havinga fag? You only smoke 10 a day. My neighbour smokes a few in the afternoon and it isn't a massive deal. They are being rude and pathetic.

So OP doesn't want her house smelling of fag smoke but it's OK for the nonsmoking neighbours to have to put up with it? My ndn smokes weed by her back door, it blows in the vent for my downstairs loo and makes MY house smell like a drugs den, I suppose you think that's OK too?

fuck sake sake why donto they just go in when you are havinga fag? You only smoke 10 a day.

So say it's a nice day and they're getting gardening done or relaxing outside all day - they've got to stop and go inside for 5-10 minutes ten times a day just because the neighbour doesn't want their stinky fag smoke in their own home but sees nothing wrong with it blowing over to the neighbours garden and disrupting them ten times a day?

When I had a neighbour who smoked, I would have loved to have eaten al fresco or sat and sunbathed in my garden, but I didn't, because the unpleasantness of regular wafts of smoke completely ruined the experiences for me. I also never opened my windows on one side of the house as the neighbour smoked outside their door on that side and the smell would come in to my house through those windows, and it would linger in those rooms. How is any of that fair on the non-smoking neighbour?

"I'm not a smoker but would have no problem with someone lighting up in their own back garden! YANBU OP!"

As you think the OP is perfectly entitled to smoke in her own garden, @Starlive23, do you not agree that the her neighbours have an equal right to make whatever comments they want to in their garden.

And also - just because you don't mind the smell of cigarette smoke drifting towards you outdoors, doesn't mean that people who do dislike it are wrong. We are all different.

I accept that I am intolerant of cigarette smoke, due to the way my mother smoked all through my childhood, and refused to stop smoking in the car when I told her it made me headache-y and car sick. When I left home, and was training as a nurse, and she and dad came to visit me in the Nurses' Home, she even lit up in my room - my bedroom - so it stunk of cigarettes for ages - and it didn't even occur to her to ask if I was OK with that or to offer to go outside.

So yes, I hate the smell of cigarette smoke. I don't make comments about it when I smell it, but I have every right to loathe the smell and find it disgusting.

How small is everyones garden that you can smell a cigarette? I live in a terraced house with a fairly small garden and my next door neighbour smokes. I've seen him but I've never smelt it! It certainly doesn't come creeping into my house and under my doors trying to KILL ME!!

The only thing I ever smell is BBQ's because they are going for a while and much more smoke.

Bloody hell there are some drama queens on here.

I'm one of the loud coughers...I loathe it when my neighbours smoke, of course I can smell it, they have their deck right next to my back door. I fail to see why I should have to breathe in anyone's smoke, be it in my garden, in the street or anywhere else.

It’s disgusting and I would hate it. We have small gardens too and if my neighbours smoked it would fill my garden and I’d have to go inside. It’s antisocial and selfish, however it’s also your right. My partner smokes and goes for a walk so that our neighbours don’t have to breathe it in when they’re enjoying the sun. There are little kids and asthmatics next door so he doesn’t choose to subject them to his bad habit.

I started smoking after that, stupidly I know but it made me think about something else rather than consume my thoughts with what I went through

I’m sorry for whatever you went through, but come on...smoking really doesn’t give you ‘something else to think about’.

Apart from the fact it’s bloody horrible for your neighbours and bad for your health, think about your kids. They’re the ones who will really suffer from ill health themselves and losing their mother earlier in life because you chose to smoke, polluting your body. Don’t THEY deserve better than that?

If you want something to do/think about - read, take up a hobby ... don’t suck on a cancer stick - that’s not getting you anywhere.

@MirriVan comments like that are also a great sign someone is a judgmental fuckwit

Stuff them all, LittleBear!

The world has too many anti-this and anti-that fascists that we could well do without.

It often makes me wonder exactly what goes on behind their self-righteous net curtains.....probably the kind of thing that would make any self-respecting dominatrix green with envy!

@MirriVan nah that type of self righteous bigotry is pretty easy to spot. I'm sure everyone knows you're a knob

I expect your neighbours are tired of you forcing them to breathe your smoke fumes in when they're trying to enjoy their garden.

@SDTG well yes of course, everyone is entitled to their opinion. I think on the list of neighbourly no-no's, smoking isn't something I'd fall out with a neighbour over.

I'm not a fan of the smell myself, I guess it depends on the situation and how often, how close gardens are to each other, if you have a good relationship with the neighbours etc