To think pavement parking should be banned

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There's a government inquiry into pavement parking, you can submit comments here

www.parliament.uk/business/committees/committees-a-z/commons-select/transport-committee/inquiries/parliament-2017/pavement-parking-17-19/

I absolutely hate pavement parking - it's someone thinking their car not being scratched is more important than me and DD's lives. I live in an area of terraced streets and especially on bin days, you basically can't go out with a pram because it's so bad.

Anyone else want to comment for the inquiry? Maybe mumsnet could submit something on behalf of lots of people?

if parking in the road impedes traffic flow or is likely to cause an accident but there are no restrictions in place. Common sense applies, of course.

Common sense would be to not allow any parking on that road at all if parking on the footway blocks pedestrians. If parking on the road is likely to cause an accident but the footway isn't wide enough then parking on the footway is likely to cause an accident from pedestrians having to enter a live carriageway.

My mild mannered, wouldn't-say-boo-to-a-goose sister used to accidentally on purpose scratch cars with her double buggy if they were parked on the pavement. This was in the 90s.

That's why I said common sense applies, coco. We have 8' wide pavements here but only one lane each way on the fairly busy road outside our house. Plenty of room to park mostly on the pavement and still get a wide buggy or mobility scooter past. Do the same on the 5' wide pavements in the village I used to live in, though, and I'll consider you a dick.

If you can't find anywhere to park your car other than dangerously on a pavement, a motorbike or scooter is a good option for getting to work. Cheap to run and you don't risk points on your licence by breaking the law. Win win all around I'd say

I'll do that. I can't walk any distance, and wouldn't even be able to hold a bike up but sure. That's what I'll do. Maybe mums on the school run could stick a couple of kids on the back to ride pillion too?

Or mum's on the school run could catch a bus or shock horror, even walk

Or mum's on the school run could catch a bus or shock horror, even walk

Yep, brilliant idea. I'll just walk the kids down the local A-road (that has no pavements and has a 60mph speed limit) to their primary school everyday, shall I? Or shall I catch the invisible bus?

I genuinely got told that once! That I should just cycle to work - never mind that it was on unlit NSL roads with no pavements or cycle lanes that are barely wide enough for one vehicle in places, and would take me the best part of four hours!

Why am I not surprised? Prolly some clever clogs that also told you to 'just buy' an electric bike because you know, those are also so cheap and so safe on NSL windy, A-roads in a gale in Winter.

It's downright hilarious on here with the fucking cycles. The OP who wanted to buy a central London flat (so they could, you know, walk and use public transport to access vital services as she didn't like driving much) was downright pilloried for even suggested such Dickensian accommodation when she has children , FFS! And couldn't she move farther out and bloody cycle with her child with ASD. You couldn't make it up!

A motorbike! Why didn't I think about that, CBT and lessons and buying a motorbike with all the spare thousands I have laying around.

you don't risk points on your licence by breaking the law

Touching concern but I’m not breaking the law.

Or mum's on the school run could catch a bus or shock horror, even walk

Are you guaranteeing all children get into their catchment school then? Because we didn’t. She ended up at a school not serviced by public transport.

So absolutely we should encourage those who are able to walk their children to school - but again it’s only realistic to assume there will be people who aren’t able to do so for a myriad of reasons.

Flaxmeadow
We have done this to death - yes if mum doesn't have to work, or if school is en route to work and on a bus route then great.

My children are adult now but their school is in the exact opposite direction to their school. Our house is mid point between the 2. No direct bus to school so we would need to walk about 30 minutes and then catch a bus to school (20 - 25 minutes). Then I would do the reverse to get back home. Then walk 10 minutes to the bus stop to catch bus to work (15 - 20 mins depending on traffic)

So that's 2 hours to get to school and back plus about half hour to work. So I would be about an hour to an hour and a half late for work every day. Yes, that sounds realistic.

Now, Little, you should have just sat your CBT and motorbike license, bought a Ducati and had the little munchins ride bitch like a good MNers .

pressure your employer's to provide a private bus
@Frequency we had to beg our employer to let us have a break as it cost the company too much money, do you really think some people would still have a job if they even tried to pressured their boss for a private sodding bus?

"Yep, brilliant idea. I'll just walk the kids down the local A-road (that has no pavements and has a 60mph speed limit) to their primary school everyday, shall I?..."

You would have to walk on a busy road that has no pavements? Well that's what pedestrians have to do now, when they can't access the pavement due to all the parked cars.

Yep, right up there with a NSL A-road in the dark in a howling gale.

You would have to walk on a busy road that has no pavements? Well that's what pedestrians have to do now, when they can't access the pavement due to all the parked cars.

Nice try.

Everyone on MN should just move, buy a house with off-road parking, but then not use it because they shouldn't drive anywhere anyway. Instead, they should use their off-road parking to store all the family bicycles

@Flaxmeadow aye and I'll strap my 2 year old to the handlebars

dronesdroppingzopiclone

I'm thinking I'm more of a pony and trap girl myself

adaline

Or rent out our unused driveways

I love the invisible bus. It's my favourite

I feel like my employer also provides me with invisible pay, too.

But others are expected to walk on the road, so someone else çan park their car?
Whats wrong with walking in a howling gale anyway. People do it all the time.

But this is beside the point. OK you might need your car, there might be no other way but what makes people think they are then entitled to break the law by mounting a pavement, driving along it for a short distance and then parking their car up and causing an obstruction?

OK you might need your car, there might be no other way but what makes people think they are then entitled to break the law by mounting a pavement, driving along it for a short distance and then parking their car up and causing an obstruction?

Most of the people you're ranting at have actually said they don't park on the pavement anyway...

So, the problem here is that everyone who agrees with the ban seems to think that all drivers who park on pavements are evil or inconsiderate or lazy etc. In some cases, they may have a point. I'll admit, I've parked 2 up on the pavement before when my neighbour parked really badly once. The thing is, when I parked 2 up, I know there was enough room for a wheelchair to pass, because I'm not an idiot. My other neighbour is in one and I am aware how bad parking would impact her.

You can't decide to ban something and expect everyone to just adapt instantly. Businesses to put on company buses, public transport to react and get better, schools to guarantee catchment areas etc. All of that needs to happen first.

Not everyone has a drive way, and I for one won't be renting mine out to people (my car doesn't fit on the drive way, as we had never lived in a house with one before so didn't know this was something I needed to check). My drive way runs down the side of my house into my back garden so I would lose all my privacy.

Well none of us have advocating driving along the pavement and then causing an obstruction.

Here, the LA has painted lines on the pavement. Let your car over hang the lines or cause an obstruction and they fine you.

So neither pavements nor roads are obstructed.