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Believe what a medium has said?

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wellhelloyou · 07/04/2019 06:53

Has anyone had a reading from a psychic medium (or like) and had something exactly came true? Not something vague but something specific almost word for word?

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Lycanthropology · 09/04/2019 16:54

Scammers, not scam stars!

BertrandRussell · 09/04/2019 16:55

OK. The acorns. Normal fishing questions being up a recent death and a visit to the grave. Further fishing questions- “there’s something unusual about the grave” (always worth a shot-easily moved away from if there’s no hit) leads to friend innocently mentioning the acorns and then having it told back. Honestly, this is how it works.

BertrandRussell · 09/04/2019 16:56

Why on earth forgiveness?

Thunderwing · 09/04/2019 17:00

Bertrand I can say with 100% conviction that there was no fishing when I was told my foreign grandparent's name. There was no, 'it sounds like' or 'it starts with' , he just came out with the name. Like I said, I don't have a foreign accent and this man died 30 years before I was born so I wouldn't even consider him. I genuinely can't see how I gave it away.

HarrysOwl · 09/04/2019 17:01

@HugoBearsMummy

RE the acorn thing, it's more likely the 'medium' had a loose hit on something and then it gets embellished and then the 'remembered' reading grows more significant, example:

"She says thanks for what you laid at her grave..." (Very general)

Turns, later, into "I can't believe the medium knew what I'd laid on the grave, it must be true!"

We tend to remember and embellish the 'hits' and discount anything that wasn't relevant. Willingness to believe takes a huge part in it, too.

Psychology is a far more likely explanation than some stranger being able to talk to the dead.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 09/04/2019 17:29

my family have made an absolute fortune doing this

To be fair, so have Derren Brown and others, who make their money out of exposing the whole thing ... but at least they're straightforward about what they're doing

I had to smile at the comments about interpretation and the legal consequences of the entertainment thing though. Doubtless the first would be covered under "I'm getting the letter K - what does it mean?", and I don't recall any of Blackpool's countless window signs mentioning it's really for entertainment ... though funnily enough, many of those said they were descendants of Petulengro too

RomanyQueen1 · 09/04/2019 17:39

Petulengro is basically the name Smith. It's a very popular Romany Family. In the early days when we came from Europe we had to fit in with locals, so gypsys changed their surnames.
Petulengro became Smith. Lee is also a popular name and sometimes with all the name changing it's hard to know if your family member was a Lee or Smith.

G5000 · 09/04/2019 17:54

but how could he have possibly known that my ex friends DD had collected acorns on their last visit to the cemetery and placed them on the grave?

You only mentioned acorns and not that he said anything about putting them on the grave. You were probably in an area with many oak trees and many kids have picked acorns to bring to grandma, mine certainly have.

Lifecraft · 09/04/2019 17:57

@sweetlittlepug Sorry to disappoint BertrandRussell and Puzzledandpissedoff but psychics do help police and have a proven track record.

No they don't and no they haven't. Linking to some daft tv programme isn't proof. It's just not true. It's a lie made up by psychics and trotted out by the gullible who swallow such drivel.

You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.

KatharinaRosalie · 09/04/2019 18:09

Unless the show was recorded, I would guess the friend misremebered what was said about the acorns. This is quite an interesting article about a psychic giving amazingly accurate and precise statements, which really were not. skepticalinquirer.org/blog/tip_the_canoe_of_tyler_too/?/specialarticles/show/tip_the_canoe_of_tyler_too

RosaWaiting · 09/04/2019 18:37

Also amazed at Luton being considered a London connection. New York would be more of a connection!

Am I the only poster to have seen a psychic and be told explicitly not to say a word? It was really immediate. I was absolutely not to say anything at all, possibly she also didn't want to hear any accent or any other thing that might lead to any kind of assumption.

Halo84 · 09/04/2019 18:37

OK, Bertrand, so how do you explain my grandmother knowing a young person was going to die violently within the month? The person was not living a lifestyle that would make such a speculation a "given", or even remote.

I could give you tens of such examples. None of these predictions was done for profit, it was just a matter of fact with her.

RomanyQueen1 · 09/04/2019 18:43

halo

One of my none gypsy family , 2 sisters, my mothers aunts were doing a reading for each others, tea leaves.
One predicted an accident where the other ones son would be killed out right. Sure enough 2 months later an accident at work in the mines.
it wasn't coal mining though, and there had been no major accidents there before. About 20 were killed, all young men.
Mum's aunts son was just 14.

BertrandRussell · 09/04/2019 18:48

I don’t know, Halo. But what usually happens is that something is said that triggers a memory and after the event people add extra details as the story is told. No criticism-nobody is doing anything wrong. It’s just how it happens when people recount stories about anything. They subconsciously polish the details.

Sweetlittlepug · 09/04/2019 18:52

Lifecraft you're right, the programme was for entertainment purposes only, I foolishly didn't realise at the time. However I still believe some people have physic powers, but I don't think it can be summoned up to order, hence why those silly experiments usually fail. I think the real physics probably don't even advertise the fact.

FunkyKingston · 09/04/2019 18:53

One predicted an accident where the other ones son would be killed out right. Sure enough 2 months later an accident at work in the mines.
it wasn't coal mining though, and there had been no major accidents there before. About 20 were killed, all young men.

What was this mining disaster in which 20 people died, as diasters on that scale are oretty well known.

Sweetlittlepug · 09/04/2019 18:54

Psychic even.

RomanyQueen1 · 09/04/2019 19:46

Funky

Many years ago, maybe 1930's I'm not sure. It was the Salt Mines in Winsford Cheshire.
Te 2 sisters never spoke again, as the mother of the child who died thought her sister had made it happen.
Long long before my time. Grin my mum told me about it.
They weren't my gypsy family, not that that makes any difference.

HarrysOwl · 09/04/2019 20:04

It's like the idea of being psychic because you get a phonecall from someone you were just thinking about...truth is, we think about so many people and so many many things, but we make the thought and action link.

We like to give meaning where there is none. We like to attribute order and fate in an otherwise random, purely coincidental existence.

Morticiaismymumgoal · 09/04/2019 20:35

Sweetlittle if it can't be summoned up to order why are so many of them offering paid for, booked or walk in readings?! What are they doing then other than 'summoning it up to order'?

BertrandRussell · 09/04/2019 20:40

“We like to give meaning where there is none. We like to attribute order and fate in an otherwise random, purely coincidental existence.“
Yes- we’re pattern making animals. That’s why we see faces in things too.

Sweetlittlepug · 09/04/2019 20:52

Those are the charlatans imo Mort. I think a genuine psychic person doesn’t advertise the fact.

BertrandRussell · 09/04/2019 21:28

It’s extraordinary all the rules people make on behalf of psychics,,isn’t it?

Lycanthropology · 09/04/2019 22:30

Are you sure, Romany?

There’s no mention of any fatal accidents in Winsford Salt mine anywhere on the internet, not even on sites about the mine where it’s history is being related.

Morticiaismymumgoal · 09/04/2019 22:33

Sweet why wouldn't they? If I could help solve crimes or just give people comfort I'd advertise it. Maybe I can help you, maybe I can't. I wouldn't go around giving random, unsolicited 'readings'.