Believe what a medium has said?

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Has anyone had a reading from a psychic medium (or like) and had something exactly came true? Not something vague but something specific almost word for word?

Was that psychic or not!

Not.

Limer

I love that example!

Was that psychic or not!

Not.

If the 'prediction' hadn't come 'true' you would, more likely than not, have forgotten all about it. It would be filed away in your memory with all the other things that people said to you over the years.

Honestly, there are some very suggestible people on the thread. I start every year telling my new undergraduates to check their sources, and failing the odd one who still fills their first bibliographies with Wikipedia, Sparknotes and a random blog, but never have I actually had someone tell me that something must be true because there's a trashy daytimeTV programme about it.

suriza, as a devout Christian, you're not even mildly disgusted by someone who uses his minions' social media research to pretend to be relaying the word of God, and reducing a supposedly omnipotent deity (who wasn't, as I remember, all that keen on moneylenders setting up in the temple) to a sort of Madam Doris, the Travelling Psychic, who can tell Bob and Crystal from Boise the name of their poodle and Bob's favourite brand of beer?

Quote from Bolz's glossy website advertising a forthcoming tour of the US Bible Belt:

God loves to tell us specific information about people that we wouldn’t naturally know on our own! God has been known to reveal birthdates, anniversaries, family nicknames, pet names, and even bank account numbers at times! The sharing of these personal details help us to develop trust and strong connection to the Lord. It produces faith to believe that God deeply loves us and that He truly does have plans to prosper us and give us hope for the future!

Of course, it's pretty clear what's in it for Shawn. Events are priced at $30 to $60 dollars, culminating in a 'Kingdom Business Lunch' at which you get a 'full meet and greet' for the princely sum of $200. It makes the psychic mentioned up the thread who'd read your palm for the price of a packet of fags sound positively restrained.

events.bolzministries.com/

Those are all typical statements that apply to many people and can be interpreted to fit with any situation. There will be babies/death/travel/job change in the family. Not many people know the real you. You are having problems with a friend. When you were a teenager, you had some challenging times. You can sometimes be insecure. You are here hoping to hear from a loved one..

I am quite psychic myself. I have had lots of visions of things that have come true... but random things mostly, trivial stuff that isn’t that useful. I also hear what people are going to say before they say it sometimes. I don’t try to do it, it just happens to me. For example a Mum at my DD’s school and I were chatting and she said ‘you’ll never guess what my son tried yesterday’ and I said ‘calamari’ and she looked pretty freaked out and asked me how I knew. I was quite embarrassed and just said ‘good guess’ but I don’t know why I know things in advance, I just do. However, I can’t control when it happens or what I see or hear. So I do believe people have psychic abilities because i have experienced it.

I had been to a few mediums but was skeptical they wwee all shit until I saw one medium who didnt charge, knew nothing about me but predicted a series of events that was insane and I laughed off at the time and forgot about fast forward a year later and said events happened, I couldn't believe it when I went back and found my notes. There are so many fakes out there.

Quite right Mummadeeze , always makes me laugh when people say there’s no such thing. I mean they don’t KNOW that but say so in such an authoritative way. I just ignore.

I think there are some very gifted spiritual people out there who get bad press due to charlatans who make stuff up I remember being read by a guy and it was so obvious he was clutching at straws it did deflate me a lot but physics as other posters have said read an aura and may be able to predict whereas a. Medium is said to communicate with the souls who have passed see link www.differencebetween.net/miscellaneous/difference-between-psychic-and-medium/

I do think there are good and bad out there and I’ve experienced both but yes I do agree that some prey on people who need answers but would say not all

I just ignore

You certainly do. You’ve ignored my request for information regarding psychics who have actually helped police.

I do Tarot readings for myself. I won't do it for others, although I've been asked. I mentioned it to someone when chatting, as I do my readings as a form of therapy. The cards are symbols and I use the imagery to meditate and understand myself better. I'm not at all psychic, but can easily see how credulous people might think I am.

Mainie,
My view is this. I believe that for every “good” thing we have there is a “good counterfeit” as well. My comparison would be between a Prophet and a psychic.

I believe Shawn Bolz is a Prophet. To go into specifics could be outing. I will say though that the I’ve witnessed in person some amazing spot on words he has given to people and they were bang on. On one occasion a business man who reluctantly last minute came to this meeting as he was not Christian, had one of his private bank account numbers (who no one - not even his wife knew about) read out and then went on to share a word about the future his business and family. Saying that I would take ANYONEs word to me about my life as the FINAL word, I would weigh it up... and if it didn’t resonate - it would go in the trash.
I will ALSO say - I do not want to have to convince anyone of what I believe. We are all on a journey.
As a Christian I have been deeply hurt by other Christians and disgusted by some of the things I’ve witnessed in churches. I completely understand why many people turn their backs on churches. Except I “know” too much! I believe God has revealed himself to me in many real ways. So I forgive and continue my mission within the Christian family (local church) I find myself in.

Correction: I wouldn’t take anyone word about me or my life as the FINAL word.

Sweetlittlepug I admit I'm confused; you posted a link about a TV programme which supposedly backed the usefulness of "psychics" to the police, yet the article itself said "The series production does not investigate the claims of the psychics showcased or confirm their claims. For entertainment it instead recreates some of the atmosphere surrounding psychic claims ..."

I'm honestly not trying to be snippy here, but surely you understand the difference between an entertainment piece and factual evidence?

It’s a trick, an illusion... just like David Copperfield, Dynamo, Paul Daniels and their “magic”. It’s a trick that they learn how to do and practise for years, managing to then show the seemingly impossible.

Magicians, though, don’t pretend to have real powers. They are illusionists and it has been a very long time since any pretended that there was anything genuinely magical or otherworldly about what they do. (Well, Paul Daniels did use to say “Now that’s magic!”, but he didn’t mean it, and he knew we knew he didn’t mean it!)

Psychics and mediums (don’t know the difference, sorry) are illusionists, nothing more. From being Victorian parlour entertainment, along with seances, they somehow became far more sinister, money grabbing fraudsters, exploiting people’s grief. They fact that they claim to be genuine unfortunately means that some are gullible enough to believe them. PT Barnum has been mentioned. I believe the phrase attributed to him was “There’s one born every minute” .

suriza, with respect, you can’t possibly know that the ‘reluctant businessman’ wasn’t a paid stooge. Why does Bolz charge such high prices for his ‘events’? Why stage expensive ‘meet and greets’ like fan conventions? Is Christianity really in such deep trouble in the 21st century that it needs tawdry tricks like skimming attendees’ social media to make pretend prophecies? Are the people of the Bible Belt really so wavering in their faith that they need to be suckered in? Why is his entire website about monetising ‘prophecy’?

His name is Shorn Balls! How can anyone take him seriously just based on that?!

Morticia sounds to me as if he's just trying to see how much he can get away with before someone notices

Mind you, the local spiritualist church has a guest called "Dodge" next week ... what they really need is a "y" on the end

I had a tarot reading at 16 who told me I was going to travel abroad, I have as most people have. Also said I would work in America, I’ve never been, in 25 years and not likely to work there. Oh and I would meet a tall, dark and handsome man, yep I’ve met loads. It was very vague.

DMIL went to a popular local psychic who told her that a close relative had poor health and wouldn’t see old age, she took it to mean her mum but her sister died of cancer a few years later. She was also told that she has 2 sons who were both going to marry but 1 of the marriages wouldn’t last. Both marriages are still going over 10 years later but who knows, statistically the psychic has a good chance of being right.

The only accurate ones I know of that are fairly specific are my friend’s dad being told to go to the optician as he has a serious eye issue. He didn’t even wear glasses but as he’d never been he went and the optician referred him to the hospital and he was diagnosed with eye cancer.

My mum was told my an old Romany gypsy who didn’t have a set charge, just a piece of silver that she would have 4 children. DM only wanted 2 but had gynae issues and had difficulty getting pregnant. She went on to have multiple miscarriages over 13 years, then had 1.5 ovaries removed and was told by medics she would never have children. They adopted 1, then a few years after had a pregnancy that went to term with hormone injections. Wanted birth control after but was declined as it was a fluke. Had DC3 a year after DC2. Was due to be sterilised after the birth but haemorrhaged and was pregnant with DC4 before it was rearranged.

Could’ve been a con and DP didn’t believe it for years until it came true. It makes for a nice family story anyway.

My granny used to read my tea leaves. She told me that I would marry a man whose name began with J. Also that he would be foreign. And that I’d soon take a trip on water.

It all came true!

Was my granny psychic? No, of course she wasn’t, the dotty old dear.

My grandmother was psychic, so I do believe in psychic ability. She never did readings for money, but she could tell you exactly what was going to occur. She could see things that would happen, but not when they would occur, as a general rule.

I think most psychics selling services are charlatans, but not all of them. I visited a psychic about 15 years ago. Not expensive and I had a specific question. She answered and I had a lot of time left. I asked about my children. With no cues from me, she described their personalities to a tee. In fact, at the time I thought her description of my youngest was wrong (he was 3),but she described him exactly as he became once he had a good vocabulary. I would have assumed a cold reading, but she went on to tell me what they would do as careers. All are in careers that no one else in the family has entered, and all are different. I was extremely skeptical at the time, but the descriptions stuck with me. I never shared them with anyone, never interfered in what my children chose, and never approved or disapproved of their choices. Yes, it could be coincidence, but that’s one heck of a track record.

Mainie,
I don’t believe SB goes through people’s social media accounts or that the business man was a paid stooge.

I’m of the opinion most of us don’t value something unless we sacrifice $$ for it. So regarding the events. How to differentiate people who really want to be there and “naysayers”, make them pay. Saying that I know many events will give tickets to people who want to be there but can’t afford it. From a practical point of view $$ goes into booking venues, honoring all guest speakers (and paying for flights, accommodation), music and anything else required. That money does not just land up in 1 persons pockets.

It’s entirely personal. Some are no doubt absolute charlatans, and some, well I can’t really speculate but I’ve heard some very believable stories. We lost our baby some at two weeks old and around 6 months later I saw a medium. I didn’t say a word about our son but it was the first thing she picked up on, and the details she knew were uncanny. Although the sceptics out there could say she gleaned it from social media, friends etc, it would have been difficult but possible with a lot of effort (given she only had my first name when I booked). However, she knew what he was wearing in his casket and only me, my husband and the funeral director knew that. So even the toughest cynic would be hard pressed to explain that away. She also predicted that we’d have a little girl, told me when we’d find out we were expecting and when she would be due. Our son had Patau’s Syndrome, and although I didn’t tell her anything about this she said we would have a test for our next baby and that she would be fine, she even told us when we’d get the results through. She was spot on with all of it. Uncanny.

I have been twice. the first time was when I was 16, I was at a fair and for fun, my mother and I went to see a fortune teller (medium). I remember she said the following to me "you will live abroad, travel alot, you will not be rich but comfortable and you will have 3 children" those things were so far from my life growing up in the US in a provincial town. Particularly, 3 kids as I didn't even want one let alone 3.

fast forward 30 years and I am living in the UK, have lived in 4 countries, we are comfortable and I have 3 kids. Now the 3 kids is funny (or not depending on your perspective). We had children very late. I was 38 with my first and my husband really wanted a second. I finally agreed to have a second, but said very strongly that I would not have a 3rd. I had TWINS! So now the reading is correct. I have 3 kids. I understand that some of that set it in my mind that I can travel etc, but 3 kids? No, that was weird. I had a miscarriage before the twins. They were meant to be.

The second time, was much more vague though she did mention that I would marry a foreigner....someone who had gone away, but would come back again...my husband. Still waiting to be a writer.

I wouldn't put my cards on a medium, but they can influence your thinking and every once in awhile they get something right, but you have to go through the chaf to get to the wheat.

but you have to go through the chaf to get to the wheat

There is no wheat, they’re all fraudsters. And as you said yourself:

every once in awhile they get something right

Well so would anyone making random vague guesses about a stranger’s future.