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Would you let the council know that someone was committing disability benefit fraud?

107 replies

givemeawobble · 05/04/2019 10:15

I'm conflicted.

This is a family member, I don't want to give to much away. I've changed username too.

I have no experience of benefits (apart from child benefit)
This person is claiming to be disabled to get their rent paid BUT are subletting their house out to multiple people ... they are making a considerable amount of money.

I won't lie, I don't like this person and it grinds on me that they are so smug and boastful about what they are doing.

Do I just ignore? Or tell someone?

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TheQueef · 05/04/2019 10:18

Of you know fuck all about benefits you need to keep quiet.
You've already conflated three different benefits and don't know the rules.

Spite filled drivel.

BloodsportForAll · 05/04/2019 10:19

As a disabled person who until recently was living on benefits as a single disabled parent, I would shop the fraud if I was sure there was fraud occurring.

It makes it so much harder for those of us who have or do currently need the benefits system to work properly and who need support. It's like a slap in the face still, when I hear about cases like this.

PlainSpeakingStraightTalking · 05/04/2019 10:19

You cant "claim to be disabled" - you ear are or arent assessed as having a disability
Housing benefit is means tested. Disability will not qualify your for HB.

Sub letting - I'll whistle blow on that.

givemeawobble · 05/04/2019 10:20

This person is not aloud to be subletting this accommodation... the people have to be pretending to be living somewhere else.

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bingoitsadingo · 05/04/2019 10:20

Yep, if I was sure (and especially if they were boasting about it). It's disgusting behaviour on their part and their actions make life harder for genuine claimants.

PlainSpeakingStraightTalking · 05/04/2019 10:20

HMO are broadly illegal for many reasons, including H&S regs

So report

TheQueef · 05/04/2019 10:22

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PlainSpeakingStraightTalking · 05/04/2019 10:22

You want us to validate your decision - you are going to report him regardless .... the subletting is illegal, report him. You might save a life or two should there be a fire etc.

Whether or not your rellie is on benefits is neither here nor there.

report.

TildaKauskumholm · 05/04/2019 10:23

If I knew for sure, yes, why should people get away with fraud?

Billben · 05/04/2019 10:23

I would report and not feel an ounce of guilt about it.

Billben · 05/04/2019 10:26

*How do you know he isn't receiving midd rate with allowance for overnight carer?

See you know nowt and are making yourself look a twat by spouting shite.*

Well, if they have nothing to hide then they shouldn’t worry, should they?
You seem very defensive. Wonder why?

nervousnelly22 · 05/04/2019 10:26

God yes report, not really that relevant that they're n benefits but illegal unregulated hmos are dangerous and should absolutely be stopped

stacktherocks · 05/04/2019 10:26

I absolutely would. It’s theft.

People saying keep your nose out cos you can’t be sure are having a bit of a logic fail... If you report and they investigate and they’re not committing fraud there’ll be no harm done. So you should report.

TheQueef · 05/04/2019 10:27

How am I being defensive Bill?
Because I said the OK is talking bollocks?

givemeawobble · 05/04/2019 10:27

@TheQueef you make me laugh! I know 'nout'?

This person isn't even living in this accommodation himself he's living with his dad...so no I'm not 'sprouting' anything. He's claiming benefit housing money to pay the rent plus getting more for renting it himself!

I think you know 'nout' so don't 'sprout' what you don't know.

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TheQueef · 05/04/2019 10:28

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FuriousCheekyFucker · 05/04/2019 10:30

@TheQueef

You seem very invested in this. Let them report, it'll be investigated, if it's all in order then nothing will happen.

Unless you're an investigator who wants an early finish because it's Friday?

TheQueef · 05/04/2019 10:33

I wish I were a fraud investigator.

I am invested in this, setting the poor against each other and gleefully reporting causing investigations and loss of benefit for families. I'm embarrassed by this race to the bottom.
I get invested in social housing too.

TixieLix · 05/04/2019 10:35

LOL! I think TheQueef must be your family member Grin

If I new someone was falsely claiming and illegally sub-letting then I'd report.

givemeawobble · 05/04/2019 10:37

@TheQueef.... are you listening?

This is a single man, claiming full rent benefit on disability but living elsewhere with his dad
And SUBLETTING the property to various people, thus making lots of money for himself that he flashes about and brags about... is that alright to do on the planet you live on?

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Hadit99 · 05/04/2019 10:37

Yes I would.

x2boys · 05/04/2019 10:41

I think it's two different issues ,they must have been assessed as having a disability and getting DLA or PIP.can affect your entitlement to housing benefit , as for the sub letting that's an entirely different matter .

2cheeseburgersplease · 05/04/2019 10:41

100% report. All the fraud only makes it harder for those in genuine need

TheQueef · 05/04/2019 10:43

I'm reading yes.
Doesn't make what you are saying true.
You asked in AIBU so you will get different opinions.
Unfortunately my work crosses this area and I see what malicious reporting does.

givemeawobble · 05/04/2019 10:48

@TheQueef yes of course it does...do you swear as much as you do here and use derogatory language in your 'line of work'?

'doesn't mean what your saying is true' now does it Wink

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