6 million and still rising . . . Time to revoke?

[longwayoff]

O please lets do that. Revoke, rethink and re- refer.

Oops.

The point of the petition seems to be to point out that leaving is not the will of the people, but the will of some of the people. Also that some people want to revoke.

I think it is hoped that MPs will consider another option to blind adherence to all the people want to leave.

There really should be a way of leaving that takes into account the close nature of the vote, or checks whether people still want to leave with these or those terms or not at all.

6 million fake signatures, still a long way to go to reach 17 Million genuine ones.

I take it none of the naysayers have troubled themselves to look at the twitter feed linked above, which clearly says the petitions committee removes fraudulent activity.

6 million fake signatures
Yeah, keep telling yourself that. (And the march was a hologram...)

I don't believe that 17 million people would have voted to crash out with no deal and all that that entails. Or a soft Brexit which is barely Brexit at all. I don't believe the majority would have voted for any of the Brexit options currently on the table and all the 'Brexit means Brexit' and 'will of the people' stuff is nonsense.

The thing I really don't understand is why leavers who are so convinced they're right are so averse to voting once again for their beliefs. What's the problem?

Would some of the leavers on here mind taking a few minutes to describe how you want the UK/EU relationship to be after brexit?

You added names to a petition you're opposed to?

No not me. Why would I do that? My daughter was the one who signed - she asked me to help. She has her own opinion on Brexit.

I signed the petition but really, I think a lot of those signatures aren't legit - lots of people have shown that it's possible to sign multiple times etc, and loads of bots have signed. It's pretty useless as anything but a vague indicator of what we already knew - that lots of people voted remain and would still vote remain.

Including work I have 5 email addresses. Could I actually sign the petition 5 times?

Jesus wept.
From the petitions committee on the twitter feed linked above
We don’t comment in detail about security measures. We use different techniques - automated and manual - to identify and block signatures from bots, disposable email addresses and other sources that show signs of fraudulent activity. We also monitor signing patterns.
But some randomers on MN know better.

If everything Leavers are saying about this petition is true, if its numbers,are falsified and the country is desperate to leave how could revoke and an additional referendum be unwanted? Surely additional proof of the rightness of your beliefs will be welcomed by all of you? I don't understand the reluctance to show everyone how right you are. Rather cowardly to refuse and bitch from the sidelines, almost as if you cant believe the luck you had last time. Very, very odd.

It’s a farce. An absolute farce.

Are you for real OP?

Op - are you an active mn member? What else have you posted on?

I’m 100% remain and firmly believe that a revoke is in order - but the petition just doesn’t carry enough weight. It was a strong effort but they can always throw it back in our faces until it gets to 17.5 million, which it won’t do, plus the usual conspiracy theory fake-email bullshit.

I honestly don’t see how anyone can argue about ‘what the people want’ when faced with the enormous PV march though. Especially compared with the pissy couple-of-hundred Parliment Sqaure turn out, and how fucking appalling their behaviour was. TM is sticking by the ‘the people voted for this’ line even though it’s so obvious to EVERYONE, literally everyone, even leave voters, that it’s not the best thing for the country RIGHT NOW - and it’s absolutely sickening. I get why so many hopes were pinned on this petition.

@ScarletBitch you're in fine form tonight. Pissed off that we haven't left the EU yet? and won't for some time if ever

Especially compared with the pissy couple-of-hundred Parliment Sqaure turn out

There was no real need for a leave march because the leave vote won.

I cannot wait until this sorry mess is over and we've actually left, then hopefully the country can pull together as a whole instead of the continuous bleating on about remaining and revoking article 50 which will not happen.

MN doesn't represent the whole of Britain and there are so many who still want to leave and some who voted remain also wishing we would leave.

It doesn't matter how many of this repetitive boring threads there are things don't appear to be changing.

Thick, you doubt my authenticity? I doubt the authenticity of the Leave vote which gained its dubious majority by falsehoods and dirty money. So I decline to accept it's validity. Rather than checking on my credibility , google Dominic Cummings, Cambridge Analytica, Aaron Banks and yesterday's newspaper reports on Johnson and Gove and their possible future prosecution for electoral fraud regarding Vote Leave. We have been swindled by a bunch of chancers, charlatans, spivs and conmen and if you can't see it yet, that's unfortunate.

Firm remainer here.
The bloody vote should should never have happened.
But it did.
And we should respect the result of it otherwise what does democracy mean?

Would some of the leavers on here mind taking a few minutes to describe how you want the UK/EU relationship to be after brexit?

Any of you? If you voted to leave, how did you envisage the future relationship?

For the hard of thinking...A petition is not a vote. It has no place within the decision making of the UK.

If this Government cannot go with the result of a referendum, that this Government came up with, why should they take any notice of an internet petition that anyone can sign? Anyone being people who are not registered to vote within the UK, children and pets of people within the UK and those who are able to create multiple email addresses (Which is easy to do, as many MNetters have stated throughout various Brexit topics they already have and are egging others on to do the same).

A petition of 6m in no way exceeds 17.4m result of the referendum. Why should A50 be revoked on the result of some corrupt on line petition exactly? What is your reasoning for that OP?