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To invite all Mumsnetters to the Brexit Rally in Parliament Square tomorrow afternoon/evening?

782 replies

SunnyInGrimsby · 28/03/2019 22:21

OK, it's doubtful Brexit is going to happen any time soon but definitely worth coming along and standing up for what we voted for.

Very little coverage in the media - unfortunately no full page spreads in the Standard for us....

It will be going on until early evening so still worth turning up if you can't get the day off work. Lots of great speakers including Julia Hartley Brewer, Claire Fox, Kate Hoey et al.

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IceRebel · 29/03/2019 10:09

I wonder what you'd say if it had been the other way round.

I wouldn't consider it fair to blame him had he been a leave supporter either. I don't think leave / remain played a huge part in the story. People who have taken excessive amounts of drugs / alcohol are often irritable, and I think anything could have set off a fight for example playing music to loudly.

MaudBaileysGreenTurban · 29/03/2019 10:09

I agree it is loutish behaviour. And I agree that the report says the argument was about Brexit and the attacker was a remain voter. And I'm glad he went to jail (for that and other crimes).

It is still a false, Trumpian equivalence. Remainers are not calling for / threatening violence on the streets. The police do not worry about Remain marches. Shops and offices did not have to shut last Saturday.

BorisBogtrotter · 29/03/2019 10:12

"So you don't think the brutal attack constitutes loutish behavior"

I think its a sensationalist headline that you have searched for desperately trying to prove a point.

Lots of evidence of violence and aggression from leave supporters.

Mummyoflittledragon · 29/03/2019 10:12

No thanks. Has everyone choosing not to attend the Brexit rally signed the revoke article petition? petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241584. Almost 6 million signatures.

PortiaCastis · 29/03/2019 10:20

This division is awful, he's leave he did this, he's remain he did that, they've done a spectacular job of dividing the Country and pitting people against each other haven't they.

I'm starting to think all this was intentional and part of a master plan maybe, and on a different thread a poster is threatening civil war and folk should be shaking in their boots so yep a spectacular divisive job and for what because it's certainly not for the people.
Oh and I can't see the police letting people put a ring of steel on the M25 surely it's almost at a standstill on a Friday evening anyway so no idea what people think they're doing.

ReleaseTheBats · 29/03/2019 10:21

Lots of evidence of violence and aggression from leave supporters

Can you list some please?

FaFoutis · 29/03/2019 10:23

I hope I'm wrong but it might be on TV later on today Bats.

maddiemookins16mum · 29/03/2019 10:25

It’s a no from me. Got far better things to do on a lovely, sunny spring day thanks.

GreatDuckCookery · 29/03/2019 10:35

Lots of evidence of violence and aggression from leave supporters

Have read many, many posts on FB in different groups from leave voters who have come across as aggressive, ignorant and plain old rude. Yes it’s an emotive subject but the I’ve only seen a handful of leave voters who have been articulate and level. The rest come across as unintelligent, irate and obnoxious.

Isitmybathtimeyet · 29/03/2019 10:41

The Leave march started in Sunderland (it's all a bit of an allusion to the Jarrow March, which I gather many people in the (heavily Leave-voting area) find deeply offensive.

You'd be in deep trouble if they heard you describing it as 'the Midlands'!

Halloumimuffin · 29/03/2019 10:51

I'm as staunchly Remain as you can get, but we had our march and Leave can have theirs.

I don't think it's a great idea for their side just because of the likely embarrassment that will inevitably come from immensely lower turnout (London not exactly being Brexiteer central).

I hope the unsavoury characters (Tommy Robinson types) don't cause trouble, the vast majority of Leavers are good people and it's a shame their concerns are hijacked by those racist losers.

ReleaseTheBats · 29/03/2019 10:57

Thanks MaudBaileysGreenTurban

  1. Personally I'm fine with people calling others traitors. The noose, no. You do get this kind of thing at leftwing rallies too (severed heads of BJ or TM on sticks etc, and didn't someone at a Labour conference last year welcome train travellers with a row of Tory effigies hanging off a bridge?). I know that is not Remain, just pointing out it's not just the right. It's disgusting whoever does it.
  1. Disgusting.
  1. I'm not convinced that predicting trouble is stoking it.
MaudBaileysGreenTurban · 29/03/2019 11:00

Personally I'm fine with people calling others traitors

Really??

ReleaseTheBats · 29/03/2019 11:05
  1. If you stop Brexit, we’ll make the Paris riots look like a f*ing tea party.”

People making comments like this are dangerous idiots and I imagine most Leave voters would condemn them. I do.

For balance, a lot of the violence and disorder at recent demos has started when counterprotestors are allowed to get close and often instigated by them.

In summary, I'm not disagreeing that there is a potentially violent and disruptive element on the fringes of the Leave, as there is in most political movements.

ReleaseTheBats · 29/03/2019 11:06

Yes. I don't do it myself but I believe its okay for people to use that word if they think it applies.

PortiaCastis · 29/03/2019 11:09

I'm not fine with anyone gobbing off screaming traitor as I exercised my right to vote same as those who shout insults and making a choice in an advisory referendum is not traitorous, so I do wish brains were engaged before mouths are open screaming abuse

BercowsSilkTie · 29/03/2019 11:11

What's the expected turn out? If it's anything like fartage's March so far I can't wait to see the news coverage. I could do with a laugh.

ReleaseTheBats · 29/03/2019 11:12

I'm not fine with anyone gobbing off screaming traitor as I exercised my right to vote same as those who shout insults and making a choice in an advisory referendum is not traitorous, so I do wish brains were engaged before mouths are open screaming abuse

Was that aimed at me? I'm not fine with that either.

NotACleverName · 29/03/2019 11:13

It’s a kind offer, OP, but I’m planning on nailing my arse cheeks to the floor so can’t make it.

MaudBaileysGreenTurban · 29/03/2019 11:26

But why would the word 'traitor' ever apply to people who eg: voted remain, Bats?

What exactly is traitorous about wanting to stay in the EU and not wanting the country to run the risk of descending into constitutional, economic and social chaos?

I'm honestly not being disingenuous - I am genuinely baffled that you think it's ok to use that word!

How999 · 29/03/2019 11:29

London is not representative of the rest of the UK. That is the entire problem.

What does this mean - the “entire” problem?

And people travelled from all over the UK to come to the march last Saturday, so I don’t see why they wouldn’t travel for the Brexit march.

London being more pro remain does not explain the lower turnout expected at tomorrow’s march.

How999 · 29/03/2019 11:29

From all over the UK and from abroad.

Langrish · 29/03/2019 11:34

DoomOnTheBroom

I see your shit in your hands and clap and raise you nail my tongue to a public latrine.

Haven’t rtwt, will catch up later, but see traitor used in conjunction with remainers.
What bollocks.

Langrish · 29/03/2019 11:36

BercowsSilkTie

What was the last one, about 3,000?