To invite all Mumsnetters to the Brexit Rally in Parliament Square tomorrow afternoon/evening?

[SunnyInGrimsby]

OK, it's doubtful Brexit is going to happen any time soon but definitely worth coming along and standing up for what we voted for.

Very little coverage in the media - unfortunately no full page spreads in the Standard for us....

It will be going on until early evening so still worth turning up if you can't get the day off work. Lots of great speakers including Julia Hartley Brewer, Claire Fox, Kate Hoey et al.

It’s not hypocrisy, there’s a very clear difference. But once again a leaver is too stubborn to see what is directly in front of their face.

Can you explain what you think the last photo you posted shows, time?

If there was an effigy of TM with remainers holding a gun to her head THAT would be comparable.

time4chocolate
The brexit gun in mouth is a criticism of her policy. The noose is a personal death threat.

'If there was an effigy of TM with remainers holding a gun to her head THAT would be comparable.'

Exactly

Hypocrisy?

a leaver on Any Answers just now, bemoaning a situation where a remainer standing by was holding a European flag. One of the Leave marchers tried to grab the flag from him. The remainer responded by trying to swat him with his flagpole. He missed and our marcher’s wife was hit on the head.
All very unedifying and unfortunate, we can all agree on that. He said a kind dog walker stopped, took a photo and was urging him to prosecute, which our marcher declined to do, trying to demonstrate no doubt what a good egg he is.
He said his point was that we all need to be kinder to each other, highlighting the bad behaviour of the remainer flag waver and the bump his wife sustained. He completely overlooked failed to condemn in any way the bad behaviour of the Leave marche who had started the whole damn thing by trying to take the flag from someone going about his peaceful, lawful business.
That’s hypocrisy ,

@TeddyIsaHe - so an image of a woman with a gun in her mouth doesn't trouble you at all? It is possible to make a point without violent imagery (on both sides).

I agree re: violent imagery full-stop and would vastly prefer that it didn't exist on either side. But it is ridiculous to try and compare the image above with that of people with nooses around their necks. One is a metaphor, the other is a message.

@Langrish, I heard that too. He was a Rees Mogg plant, I think.

Ah Gilbett1A!
It all makes sense now: can’t be bothered going through it all again but I’ve just realised I got completely the wrong end of the stick about one of your posts yesterday so probably replied to it in the nonsensical!

Sorry about that!

No, not getting it still - I have just been googling and it would appear from what I have read, it was one man carrying a noose with nothing in said noose but when asked said, and I'm paraphrasing here, that 'Teresa May would be accused of Treason if she didn't see Brexit through and that used to be the punishment for treason many years ago'.

However, Teresa May with a gun in her mouth is ok?

Mental gymnastics is alive and well.

Anyway, I'm not going to waste anymore of my sunny Saturday afternoon discussing effigies.

Alsohuman

One of the worst types. Oh so reasonable whilst oh so bloody insidious.

@helmetbymidnight please do not just grab parts of my wording and re write what I said. That is worse than dm journalism.
I said one of my reasons which was regarding fishing quotas.
I did say that I believe in the British spirit nothing wrong with that. I'm shocked at the amount of hate some remainers come out with.
Currently we are answerable to the EU and our government. Yes the Mps are in charge of whats going on the decision making with regards to brexit yes it is a joke.
Hiding behind the internet being rude does not change the moderate leavers mind.
I can see my request for people to mind how they phrase things has gone over your heads.

@MaudBaileysGreenTurban - but surely metaphors made with violent imagery should be equally condemned? Otherwise it looks like you welcome violent metaphors' (that make a point you agree with) and condemn violent messages' that you don't. However you like to spin it, a huge blow-up of a woman with a gun in her mouth is aggressive, threatening and probably mysogynistic. We can make our arguments more powerfully if we make them peacefully. Some Orwellian doublethink going on here, methinks.

Why is the imagery misogynistic? She's the PM and the Brexit gun represents the suicide of a nation doesn't it? How is that misogynistic?

Sunny I literally just said I don't like either.

I don't like the float or blow-up or whatever it is of May with a gun labelled 'Brexit' in her mouth. I don't like it. It is violent and horrible. But it is not the same as an effigy of May with a noose around her neck.

And quite how time thinks that explanation she googled makes it better, I have no fucking idea. The country has lost the plot.

I think it's very telling that they also had an effigy of Sadiq Khan on a noose. Now let me think, why could that possibly be? Hmmmmm.

Yeah it's clear you don't Gilbert and seriously, several of us have explained the difference.

You may disagree with the explanation but to say you don't understand the difference between a metaphor suggesting that Brexit will cause May/the UK to commit political suicide and a message - which has been confirmed by time above - that getting a noose around their necks and being dragged through the streets is what happens to 'traitors'...well, I can't help you, sorry.

Total coincidence that the knuckle draggers put noose around a high profile Muslim. Gotcha.

Hate?
Am I being a meanie for hating Yaxley-Lennon?
Am I being a meanie for urging moderate Leavers to disown him?
Is that mean now?