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To invite all Mumsnetters to the Brexit Rally in Parliament Square tomorrow afternoon/evening?

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SunnyInGrimsby · 28/03/2019 22:21

OK, it's doubtful Brexit is going to happen any time soon but definitely worth coming along and standing up for what we voted for.

Very little coverage in the media - unfortunately no full page spreads in the Standard for us....

It will be going on until early evening so still worth turning up if you can't get the day off work. Lots of great speakers including Julia Hartley Brewer, Claire Fox, Kate Hoey et al.

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MaxNormal · 30/03/2019 12:19

@SunnyInGrimsby so no comment about the violence and the far right element at the march?

bellinisurge · 30/03/2019 12:19

Diddums. Are the naughty Remainers cross because Leave has been taken over by racist thugs? Aren't we mean.

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SunnyInGrimsby · 30/03/2019 12:20

Yaxley-Lennon was not speaking at this protest. He held another protest in a different area. I don't know where you read that he spoke at the same one?
And there were certainly more than 700 on the rally I was on!

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GreatAuntBertha · 30/03/2019 12:20

'There’s a sure fire of violence occuring'
'I won’t be surprised to see violence and loutish behaviour'
'Anyone with any sense needs to stay away from the swivel eyed loons'

Yep
Yep
Yep

Three taken at random and all seem reasonable statements to me.

GreatAuntBertha · 30/03/2019 12:21

And Remainers accuse Leavers of inciting hate crimes!!

Well, yes. Because they do.

Langrish · 30/03/2019 12:22

And now one of the morons has disrupted thousands of people on Eurostar trying to go about their lawful business. One woman on the radio, extremely upset, trying to get back from Paris to spend Mother’s Day with her 89 year old mother.
But hey, f**k her, right. What’s that precious time worth compared to his democracy? Twat.

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SunnyInGrimsby · 30/03/2019 12:23

@MaxNormal; But I was on the March and saw no `thugs'. Just a group of peaceable people who would like to respectfully Leave the EU.

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Peregrina · 30/03/2019 12:27

I won’t be surprised to see violence and loutish behaviour

Which we did see. It wasn't obvious to those of us watching on the TV that there were different marches going on. Very remiss of the TV not to badge them as 'this is the EDL march', 'this is the sensible Leavers march'.

Will you be setting up crowdfunding SunnyInGrimsby to get some billboards put up telling us the sensible, moderate leavers view?

bellinisurge · 30/03/2019 12:28

So that footage I saw of someone trying to climb over the railings into Downing Street was a figment of my imagination? righhhhht

Peregrina · 30/03/2019 12:29

Or the people attacking the camera men didn't exist?

Sitdownstandup · 30/03/2019 12:30

So people responding not bloody likely to an invitation they don't fancy is inciting hate crimes? Mmmkay.

Langrish · 30/03/2019 12:31

bellinisurge

“So that footage I saw of someone trying to climb over the railings into Downing Street was a figment of my imagination? righhhhht”

Didn’t see that. With the heightened tensions, bloody lucky they weren’t shot. Just how stupid are these people?

Sitdownstandup · 30/03/2019 12:34

Extremely.

If I were a moderate Leaver I'd be doing all I could to denounce them and make it clear they didn't represent me.

bellinisurge · 30/03/2019 12:36

Those five arrests last night were just a fantasy too.

longwayoff · 30/03/2019 12:43

Leavers, I note some of you have claimed that you can't admit publicly what you voted, as superior remainers may mock or otherwise deride you. How can this be? Surely your massive majority protects you and you find support wherever you look? If you're being victimised by remain voters, they won't be supported against you and the many other Leavers will come to your aid, so why the angst?

Peregrina · 30/03/2019 12:44

So SunnyInGrimsby Yaxley-Lennon was not speaking at this protest.

Where is your follow up statement to say that you fully condemn his behaviour, and he does not speak for you?

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Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 30/03/2019 12:48

It's deeply unpleasant to see posters literally praying for bloodshed and violence

Literally praying for bloodshed and violence

That should be dead easy to link to

And if youre bandying the word literally around I'm assuming a poster has said exactly that

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SunnyInGrimsby · 30/03/2019 12:49

Yes I fully condemn his behaviour. It hadn't occurred to me that I was endorsing it. I condemn all violence and harassment in thought, word and deed, even towards those I disagree with, as I hope you do too.

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Bornfreebutinchains · 30/03/2019 12:53

No violence is acceptable and there should be no arrests.

But considering how angry that crowd could have Been... considering people who fight for fun ( Tommy lot) turned out.5 arrests really isn't anything substantial at all.

You do all realise that events such as the Notting hill carnival can lead to hundreds of arrests!!

A fun carnival with music and the police have to arrest hundreds!!

Just to put it into perspective.

Langrish · 30/03/2019 12:53

SunnyinGrimsby

Have you ever voted for Farage or his representatives? Because if you have, endorsing such behaviour is exactly what you have been doing.
That man should be charged with incitement to violence and incitement to racial hatred.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 30/03/2019 12:54

The only difference is if your opinion had been in the majority people like me would have been told it was a once in a lifetime vote and to go away

Remain were told that...its just some remain voters didn't want to give up

There have been a fair few posts recently saying that if we remain that poster will never vote again......

It seems a shame that some leave voters would just give up, farage wouldn't obviously or that man that keeps saying he would rather be shot than vote for the WA

Bornfreebutinchains · 30/03/2019 12:56

Rufus...

Right now posters trying to link all leavers with separate right wing group!

Rufus.... Go and read the comments earlier about op being irresponsible for mentioning the march! On brexit topic posters really trying to turn this into something it's not.

It's really desperate.

Sitdownstandup · 30/03/2019 12:56

I'm glad you condemn it OP. I find your pretence that people admittedly a bit rudely disagreeing with you and saying things that are actually true amounts to some kind of incitement utterly risible, but I think the more Leavers disassociating themselves from the extremists the better for all of us. Nobody has to but it's good when they do.

Peregrina · 30/03/2019 12:57

Yes I fully condemn his behaviour. It hadn't occurred to me that I was endorsing it.

As the saying goes “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” This is attributed to Edmund Burke although that is disputed. I don't doubt that an awful lot of thoroughly decent people in 1930s Germany didn't endorse Hitler, but woke up far too late as to what he was up to, and by which time effective protest had been stifled.