to think that NDN should care how shit this looks from my garden. FENCE THREAD - pic enc.

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He's put up curved trellis all the way along the wall and stapled tatty strawberry netting to the back (our side) of it so he's not overlooked by the houses perpendicular to us.

But it looks horrible from my side. And the trellis has made it very tall.

I'd saved up for a few years to do my garden up a bit this spring and now this has made it look crap. I can't really afford to put something up on my side to hide his netting.

There's fuck-all I can do, I assume - I asked him (nicely) if I could remove the netting and if the trellis would be obscure enough to stop the neighbours overlooking him. He said no, that it was on his property, and that he wasn't going to remove it and that if I didn't like it I could install something on my side to cover it.

Is there anything I can do???

I can’t see how it can’t be the OP’s land. NDN has a recessed house, so how could the side of OP’s house be his as well.

My guess is that it depends on the boundary line? They don't have to be exactly parallel or perpendicular. Not my area of expertise but I'd look at the deeds as a starting point to see what the boundary lines look like.

If OP's neighbour paid for a wall to be built on OP's property/land then surely there would have been some sort of written agreement to protect his investment? No-one shells out money to build a wall on a neighbour's property without considering what happens when the property is sold. Unless of course neighbour is a bully and persuaded former owner of PP's home to go along with it.

I would be interested to see a drawing (birds-eye view) showing the wall in relation to OP's home and neighbour's).

Ooh I'm up for doing a diagram. It'll have to be tomorrow but I will.

Unless NDN is a bull, built the wall and intimidated previous owners and they then sold up.

We have a leylandi hedge. It’s massive. When we bought the house NDN told us we owned the hedge and were responsible for cutting NDN side. We did for a few years, but as they didn’t thank us and were rude to us, we didn’t bother to continue.

Also we had no acknowledgment of this when we bought it.

Take the green mesh off on your side! Put it in a bag and hang it over a fence pole on his side. If he subsequently wants to put it up on his side so be it but I'm thinking he's put it up on your side so he can get the benefit of the 'good' side. Not OK! Honestly I would take it down and give it back to him.

@stinkytoe Then you and I are both mugs, love. I'd rather be a nice neighbour though. Got a new fence, creosoted it, gave the neighbour the nice side as it really was not a big deal - not only was she delighted but then insisted on paying us half even though it is our boundary so everyone was happy

Oh and I'd paint your wall green to match OP then get lots of garden centre outside butterflies on sticks and put them in the ground near it. Or plant lots of honesty to get orange winged tip butterflies (read about them in the guardian) or plant shrubs. Or paint the wall lavender.
Lots you could do.

Sorry - now read the full thread

The photos show how dodgy it all is.
Surely you hold all the legal cards?

1. Trellis should not be anywhere on your house. It clearly is because of his drainpipe.
2. It's too tall, surely?

Bargain with him on the whole lot coming down if he doesn't start playing fair.
Point out unless he has proof that he compensated the neighbour for building on their (your) land then the bloody wall can go too - because even if he owns the boundary that wall has been built against your property. It makes no sense. And if you own the boundary and he paid for the wall, tough shit - he needs to show the paperwork.

To me it looks like wall and trellis are on your property. Personally if you don't like the wall and can afford to replace it, I'd knock it down and gain a couple of extra inches back. Sounds like your neighbour is the bullying type.

NDN is a deffo CF

He has "maybe" paid to build a wall on your land with previous neighbours

The wall is on your land

The trellis is on your land cos he has a drainpipe and window on his house so couldn't fix it to his house

Just pull the green stuff off after all it is on your land and throw it over the wall to him, as it belongs to him like branches off an overhanging tree you have to give back even if they are overhanging your garden

If you want the trellis to stay there then fine but not the horrible green stuff

I think if he paid for it it's his to own and maintain. You just need some patience, unfortunately.

Thanks for all your answers. Diagram as promised.

Wall A is attached to my other (nice) neighbour's house. Wall B is the one in question with the trellis. It's attached to my house. Wall C would presumably be attached to unpleasant neighbour's house but I can't get a view if where it meets the buildings.

My deeds don't show boundary ownership but they DO show that the boundary is at a straight 90 degrees so doesn't angle into his garden.

What do you reckon?

Wall A is across both boundary yours and nice NDN

Wall B is on your land

Could you ask other NDN of horrible NDN?

I reckon planting climbers to cover it up would be a lot less expensive and less stressful than initiating a boundary dispute with an already prickly neighbour.people lose years of their lives embroiled in disputes like that.

I could grow climbers but it'd take ages, I'd still be able to see some of the green and it would piss me off every time I looked at it.

Why should I let the CF bully get away with it?

He has been a CF. That’s your garden and your wall. I’d remove the wall. Firstly hand back the netting and ask or the trellis to come off so you can remove the wall.

Why don't you figure out a compromise. Fighting with neighbors is no fun regardless of who is actually in the right. Make a deal with him that if you plant some vines, once they come up to the height of the trellis, he will remove the green fabric so that the vines can cover the trellis. Also, perhaps in the meantime, why don't you offer a black or brown fabric instead of the green one. It's really not that horrible and certainly not any worse than the block wall. Also, if you are painting the block wall a darker color, the trellis may not look so contrasty once that's done. All in all, I would recommend aiming for compromise rather than a fight. Also don't forget that any formal dispute needs to be disclosed when you sell and that could cause problems.

I think him getting to keep the trellis and wall but just remove the mesh is a fair compromise

Much as I'd like to take to it with a lump hammer

Won’t you have problems selling your house when there is an issue with the boundary?

But is there a real issue or is he just chancing his arm that I'll be a pushover?

Would you really like to get rid of the walk?

WALL obviously...not walk