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to think that NDN should care how shit this looks from my garden. FENCE THREAD - pic enc.

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PauperTroll · 28/03/2019 19:11

He's put up curved trellis all the way along the wall and stapled tatty strawberry netting to the back (our side) of it so he's not overlooked by the houses perpendicular to us.

But it looks horrible from my side. And the trellis has made it very tall.

I'd saved up for a few years to do my garden up a bit this spring and now this has made it look crap. I can't really afford to put something up on my side to hide his netting.

There's fuck-all I can do, I assume - I asked him (nicely) if I could remove the netting and if the trellis would be obscure enough to stop the neighbours overlooking him. He said no, that it was on his property, and that he wasn't going to remove it and that if I didn't like it I could install something on my side to cover it.

Is there anything I can do???

to think that NDN should care how shit this looks from my garden. FENCE THREAD - pic enc.
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PauperTroll · 29/03/2019 11:45

littledoll that is really creepy! Our existing wall is six foot so was already enough privacy for us.

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minty80 · 29/03/2019 12:22

I agree with you op, the trellis looks nasty. I'd rather the wall on its own.

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PauperTroll · 29/03/2019 12:56

I've checked out the deeds and can't find anything about who owns which boundary. Had a chat to the (lovely) NDN the other side and he said that he owns the wall to the right so he'd assume that the wall to the left of my garden was mine. Although the other (twatty) NDN did pay for it to be built.

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Memeface · 29/03/2019 13:05

That's your wall!

Boundary walls do not get built ON the neighbors house unless it belongs to that neighbor!

Still think a nice bit of Virginia creeper will help.

yumyumpoppycat · 29/03/2019 13:17

Oh dear that definitely makes it more complicated if it is your wall. If the trellis is on your side of the 2 houses I would assume you can request that he moves it so it is on his property. If it is on your wall/land I don't think it would be unreasonable to suggest as a compromise the trellis stays and the netting needs to come off.

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PauperTroll · 29/03/2019 13:22

So even if he arranged & paid for it to be built, it's still mine if it's on my property?

I have a feeling that he had some kind of feud with the previous owners of my house (hence 6ft breezeblock walls being put up) and that's why he's a dick to me!

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yumyumpoppycat · 29/03/2019 13:31

I suspect sorting this out could get expensive and it might be easier to live with the trellis, especially as you cant afford to put something new in its place?

yumyumpoppycat · 29/03/2019 13:34

hmlandregistry.blog.gov.uk/2018/02/27/drawing-the-line-on-boundaries/ a little info here

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PauperTroll · 29/03/2019 13:34

I don't mind the trellis, it's just the manky green netting I want rid of. The trellis itself is fine (albeit illegally tall)

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yumyumpoppycat · 29/03/2019 13:39

Maybe approach him again try and keep it friendly but say you are concerned the structure height isn't legal and is potentially overlapping on your land but that if he takes the netting off you are happy for it to stay as it is as it will be less invasive. maybe discuss options such as you buying a rapid growing plant to help cover it? Or you could offer to contribute to the cost of the trellis if he is happy to take the netting off.

hellsbellsmelons · 29/03/2019 13:41

Put some bamboo along the trellis work.
That green mesh is hideous!
And definitely check your boundary.
It's been different in different houses for me.

floribunda18 · 29/03/2019 13:52

Grow some passiflora/clematis up it.

Billben · 29/03/2019 13:52

That's your wall!

Don’t be so sure of that. At our last house all the boundaries were jointly owned.

youngestisapsycho · 29/03/2019 13:52

Is the netting on your side?? Can't you just remove it?

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PauperTroll · 29/03/2019 14:17

youngest The netting is on my side of the panel but attached to trellis that he put up on his side of the wall that is still within the boundary of my property.

Clear as mud!

I would love to remove it but he's telling me I can't.

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DobbyTheHouseElk · 29/03/2019 15:58

He can’t put netting on your side of the trellis. I suspect he’s a problem NDN and it trying to get a reaction.

Bunchofparsley · 29/03/2019 16:08

@Stinkytoe, you're right, but no-one seems to adhere to that anymore.

iwantatattoo · 29/03/2019 16:13

It's on your property! Shock
Ask on the legal boards. The cheeky fecker.

iwantatattoo · 29/03/2019 16:13

How long has the wall been there for?

heidivodca · 29/03/2019 16:22

I agree with @hells can you put some baboo type stuff to cover the hideous green netting? You said your NDN would be fine if you did that? The gardening section in Poundland might have something you could use? Avoid any kind of dispute!

Nottobesoldseparately · 29/03/2019 16:23

You can remove the netting.
If he wants it up, it needs to be on his side, not yours regardless of whose boundary it is.

He doesn't get to make your side look shit, he has to do that to his own side.
That's why so many fence panels now look the same from both sides.
The neighbour the fence doesn't belong to, gets the more attractive side, not the otherway round.

youngestisapsycho · 29/03/2019 16:25

I’d have ripped it down by now and told him if he wants netting he can stick it on his own side!

dirtystinkyrats · 29/03/2019 16:32

My local council say trellis isn't included in the height of a fence. We have a massive fence on one boundary that was subject to a dispute just before we bought the house.

Diplodoci · 29/03/2019 17:14

dirtystinkyrats your council is wrong. There is no legal difference between fence and trellis. The 2m height rule still applies.

TixieLix · 29/03/2019 17:30

If he wants to claim the wall as his then tell him to move it over so that it's not attached to your house, the CF!!! If the boundary that side belongs to you, then it's irrelevant if he paid for the wall, he can't just claim ownership if it's built on your land. He also can't attach anything to it without your permission if it's your wall, and he most certainly shouldn't have attached his trellis to the side of your house. You'd be within your rights to tell him to remove it from your house wall at the very least.