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To feel desperately sorry for Theresa May

398 replies

ferns99 · 28/03/2019 11:58

On a human level I just feel so sorry for her - she looks like she's aged so much and is apparently becoming quite unwell because of the immense stress she's under. To be continually ripped to shreds by the despicable ERG and so many others in the House of Commons is just awful - I don't know how she does it. A few times I've seen her looking like she's on the verge of tears. I wonder if she goes home every night and just sobs - I know I would.

It's sad as I think she would have made a decent PM if Brexit didn't exist.

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Hyacintharehighersincelasttime · 30/03/2019 00:13

ex prime ministers, John Major, and most others, always look and appear So much better, once they leave

WhiteDust · 30/03/2019 02:28

And....Your problem with someone working hard and earning more money than you is because....What??

What are you talking about?
Where did I say I have a problem with anyone earning money or working hard?
I said I don't feel sorry for her!
She's doing a job (debatable I know) and getting paid to do that job.
WYNI.

HellAndDegenerates · 30/03/2019 06:31

Nevermind her job title she is still a human being with feelings

Shame those feelings don't seem to include the poor, the elderly, the sick, children, the homeless.
Seems those feelings only extend as far as her friends and husband.

Sostenueto · 30/03/2019 06:48

It doesn't matter how much you get paid for a job. If you expect payment, however much , you should always do that job well. Theresa May did not do her job well. TM does not have the ability to do that job well.

Fifthtimelucky · 30/03/2019 07:26

Whilst I do not agree with the everything she is doing, I do have a lot of sympathy for her.

As for listening to her husband, of source she does. He's probably the one person whose advice she trusts. She can hardly rely on her cabinet or backbench MPs for objective unbiased advice.

keepforgettingmyusername · 30/03/2019 07:35

Do I fuck feel sorry for her. It's her way or the highway and everyone else can just fuck off. I read a report in the Times explaining how her husbands company will make a lot of money from Brexit. Could this explain why she's pushing it so doggedly? So she can buy more gold trousers and £900 designer coats. She's so out of touch with ordinary people and then she claims to speak for us! And yet she can dismiss a petition that 6 million people signed with a wave of her hand.

TheGardenFairy · 30/03/2019 09:42

WhiteDust

What are you talking about?
Where did I say I have a problem with anyone earning money or working hard?
I said I don't feel sorry for her!
She's doing a job (debatable I know) and getting paid to do that job.
WYNI

Ummm... here's your original reply (below). It was you who mentioned she gets paid a lot....jealous much!

I don't feel sorry for her one bit.
She gets paid. A lot.
She is NOT working alone.
She has stylists, PR/PA teams, speech writers, advisors, cleaners, cooks, chauffeurs at her beck and call. Not to mention her 'cabinet' who do a ton of work (or get their teams to do it.
She's a figurehead/spokesperson for a huge organisation.Notsome poor woman with the weight of the world on her shoulders

Limensoda · 30/03/2019 11:16

And....Your problem with someone working hard and earning more money than you is because....What??

Well, she didn't say she had a problem with May earning more money....but if she had maybe it would be because May is absolute shite at her job and nothing to do with jealousy.

theWarOnPeace · 30/03/2019 12:59

All this sympathy for May makes me think it’s some sort of skewed version of feminism. Why does she garner sympathy from women? Same as the the thread about bloody Emma Bunton and Louise, why do we HAVE to support them and look for the tiniest reason as to why they deserve our support “as women”. Not everyone is good at their job, not everybody should have a platform because they seem quite nice or because their husband cheated or whatever. May doesn’t deserve our sympathy because she’s a nasty human being, and was before she actively wanted to become PM. She was an evil cunt as Home Secretary, and is an arrogant piece of shit as PM.

Nobody has started threads about feeling sorry for Donald Trump have they? The “oh god he looks ill and so stressed, I sympathise on a human level” threads haven’t started yet. And why should they? We all know he’s a piece of shit that deserves no sympathy from anyone, so why do people force themselves to cobble together bits of empathy for TM? “As a woman” I feel embarrassed that she semi-represents us. Not that she should represent me personally but shit representation all adds up into people’s consciousness. We’ve had plenty of shit male PM’s, but Thatcher and May somehow still take the prize for most unpopular. IMO, that is.

Limensoda · 30/03/2019 13:14

@TheWarOnPeace

I agree with everything you said.
I get sick of being told I should be supportive of someone because 'women must support other women'
Thatcher didn't support women. I don't think she particularly liked women ffs! May doesn't particularly support women.
As for feeling sorry for her looking so ill and stressed, that's because she chose that job and has created a lot of that stress herself. I feel sorry for all those women who are stressed because they can't afford to house, feed and clothe their kids.

GreatAuntBertha · 30/03/2019 13:22

Who does May have sympathy for?
Her own goals and her own party.

Who does she not have any sympathy for?
Democracy.

So no, I'm afraid I don't feel desperately sorry for her. I don't feel a scintilla of sympathy towards her.

BertrandRussell · 30/03/2019 13:23

“All this sympathy for May makes me think it’s some sort of skewed version of feminism”

It’s often used as an anti feminist thing, actually-“look how catty and bitchy women are -they can’t even support each other”

pigsDOfly · 30/03/2019 19:32

Yes, all this sympathy.

Would there be all this sympathy for a man in the same position. I somehow doubt it.

It's almost like some people still expect women to be going home and night and sobbing into their pillows if they've had a hard day, even women like May who've managed to climb the slippery pole of politics all the way to the top job, because, you know, she's a woman and women are always so emotional.

Of course it's hard for her, but she's not making it easy for herself and I very much hope she isn't bursting into tears at every opportunity because things aren't going her way or she'll be an even worse pm than I thought.

WhiteDust · 30/03/2019 20:50

TheGardenFairy: Ummm... here's your original reply (below). It was you who mentioned she gets paid a lot....jealous much!

I have no sympathy for TM because she earns a lot of money and I'm jealous?

Are you for real?

BertrandRussell · 30/03/2019 21:07

As I think I said before, she’d be earning a bloody sight more if she had stayed in banking.

In my opinion, by the way, accusing someone of jealousy in an argument is always a sign of defeat.

kikisparks · 31/03/2019 07:40

Nope. I feel sorry for my clients, such as single working parents going without food so their children can eat and getting into rent arrears and having their mental health affected due to the stress because they’ve had to claim universal credit.

The Tory party have played a good game. We’re strong and stable. I’m a decent guy (Cameron). We’re tough. We’re what the country needs to keep calm and carry on. And Theresa May has been playing her part in this, like others said she’ll be fine in the end. The best I can say about her is she’s marginally better than Johnson or Rees Mogg. I’m not Corbyn’s biggest fan, I’m not even a labour voter, but I recognise that probably all he lacks to be more popular is the ability to play the game, to toe the line, to say the right thing even if it’s a lie.

If you lie in your job and do badly at it, to the detriment of others, isn’t it reasonable that you should quit?

neveradullmoment99 · 31/03/2019 09:09

Oh ffs. The feminist brigade have reached this thread.
Well tbh, i thought Tony Blair looked awful and had changed radically and felt it had got to him like May but i dont feel sorry for any politician. But no, its not just women we can feel sorry for.

BertrandRussell · 31/03/2019 09:12

“The feminist brigade have reached this thread.”

You do realise that makes you sound a little unhinged? Just thought someone ought to tell you......

wafflyversatile · 31/03/2019 09:15

Shes putting herself and her party before the country. Without brexit she would have been as shitty a pm as she was a home secretary.

C8H10N4O2 · 31/03/2019 09:26

Shes putting herself and her party before the country

Her party certainly - this entire shit show has being managed not for the good of the country but to desperately hang on to power for an increasingly right wing political group.

"Small" is the word which comes to me every time I look at her record. Small minded, petty, small outlook and xenophobic, unwilling to work collaboratively and too small to accommodate any ideas other than her own. Lack of vision or ability to communicate any vision.

All this from the person who at one time berated them for being the "nasty party".

keepforgettingmyusername · 31/03/2019 09:27

'Oh ffs. The feminist brigade have reached this thread'

I should like to think most of MN are feminist. Not sure where you sign up to be part of the brigade though.

BertrandRussell · 31/03/2019 09:30

Absolutely, CH. All the worst of Middle England.

DonaldTwain · 31/03/2019 09:30

Show me where, I’ll sign on the dotted.
Predictable responses here. May is someone I disagree with politically, therefore I’m free to forget she’s a human being. Epitomises what’s wrong with the left today.

BertrandRussell · 31/03/2019 09:34

So, if I understand the last few posts, feeling sorry for May makes you a rabid feminist and not feeling sorry for her makes you a heartless Leftie...

Lweji · 31/03/2019 09:41

Anyone who uses brigade loses the thread immediately.

As a feminist, and a leftie, I don't feel sorry for her and she should have had the courage to cancel Brexit.
Or resign.

It's often said that you can't serve two masters. The Brexiter MPs are so divided that she can't please them all.
So, start over.
General election, whatever.

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