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To feel desperately sorry for Theresa May

398 replies

ferns99 · 28/03/2019 11:58

On a human level I just feel so sorry for her - she looks like she's aged so much and is apparently becoming quite unwell because of the immense stress she's under. To be continually ripped to shreds by the despicable ERG and so many others in the House of Commons is just awful - I don't know how she does it. A few times I've seen her looking like she's on the verge of tears. I wonder if she goes home every night and just sobs - I know I would.

It's sad as I think she would have made a decent PM if Brexit didn't exist.

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Peregrina · 29/03/2019 10:24

I felt a momentary twinge of sympathy for Thatcher as she drove away from Downing Street with tears in her eyes, and then thought of all the damage she had done, and the sympathy disappeared.

Hearhere · 29/03/2019 11:26

I suppose she was greedy for power and notoriety?

BertrandRussell · 29/03/2019 11:30

“I suppose she was greedy for power and notoriety?”

Nope. Still don’t get it.

AutumnCrow · 29/03/2019 11:33

Theresa May was laughing in Parliament this morning, as others were making serious speeches about this national crisis. Laughing like a loon.

Then she walked out of the debate, smirking, as the SNP leader rose to speak.

No sympathy for her at all.

The80sweregreat · 29/03/2019 11:34

I was so happy to see the end of Mrs Thatcher, despite many people i know being really upset. She clung on a lot longer than Theresa has, but i think Brexit would have broken her as well to be fair.
Mrs T was pro Europe though - something i find odd that so many in today's cabinet are not.

AlwaysCheddar · 29/03/2019 11:45

May is vile and despicable, has just caused chaos and ruin.

DolorestheNewt · 29/03/2019 11:49

Theresa May may well be greedy; I've no idea, but I don't think wanting to be Prime Minister is evidence of that.

Tonsilss · 29/03/2019 11:50

Power is clearly very addictive. And she really hates immigrants. Those are 2 of the things driving her.

schoolsoutnow · 29/03/2019 11:52

tonsiliss⚡️ I am an inmigrant and I don't know what I have done to T May but I agree with your post. She is scary. I am glad she is going though.

schoolsoutnow · 29/03/2019 11:52

Immigrant I meant.. Smile

Hearhere · 29/03/2019 11:57

Perhaps she is driven by vindictiveness
you turkeys who voted for Christmas I'm going to make sure you get Christmas, I'm going to make sure you get exactly what you deserve, that will teach you

runlift · 29/03/2019 12:06

I really think that if I was her, then by now I would have stood up in the House of Commons, shouted 'fine then, do you know what, FUCK YOU ALL' and stormed out!

Hahahaha. That would make good tv!

PennyB40 · 29/03/2019 12:25

No, I don’t feel sorry for her, she’s in a situation of her own making by putting all those red lines down, she should have moved over a long time ago.
But, how she hasn’t completely lost her shit and gone berserk in the HoC, I don’t know.

AlecTrevelyan006 · 29/03/2019 12:31

I genuinely believe she is mentally ill

BertrandRussell · 29/03/2019 12:37

Yep. Some psychopathy. Or a absolute shit ton of money at stake.

FiddleFaddleDingDong · 29/03/2019 12:38

I think May and Johnson should be bolted into that nuclear bunker that they're prepared in readiness for a No Deal situation. Those two deserve one another.

TheGhostOfBrexit · 29/03/2019 12:39

I did wonder that Hear. Eat your shit sandwich you stupid fuckers!

Hearhere · 29/03/2019 12:40

I'm wondering what leads you to believe that she is mentally ill Alec?

TheGhostOfBrexit · 29/03/2019 12:41

Aye, psychopathy and disaster capitalism make good bedfellows...

LloydColeandtheCoconuts · 29/03/2019 12:44

Not a fucking jot!

Mumsie448 · 29/03/2019 12:48

She has made some really poor decisions.
I fully expected her to create a cross party ‘committee/department, etc’ on Brexit. But to be fair, I am not sure how that would have worked in practice, but it was never suggested or attempted. (Corbyn may have turned down the opportunity, but then it would have placed him at a disadvantage)
She listened to her two stupid advisers, and bought into the myth of her ‘kitten heel’ shoes, spending more time focusing on her shoes at the conservative party conference, than on her speech (the coughing one; according to one newspaper).
Had silly photos of herself wearing fancy leather trousers. (Yes, I know that male leaders also wear expensive suits, but maybe suits are not so obvious)
She stupidly called a ‘snap’ General Election, that was not really ‘snap’ (ie minimum 4 weeks), allowing around 7 weeks, giving time for the Labour Party to get their manifesto out first and set the agenda.
Despite really calling the GE over Brexit, it was fought on domestic issues such as foxhunting, grammar schools and the so-called dementia tax.
Her advisers promoted her, and pushed other bigwigs in the Conservatives to the margins, etc (there is sooo much I could say about the GE).
So she lost her majority, thus relying on the DUP. (This is the key bad decision of hers)
She created David Davies Brexit secretary, but went behind his back to a) agree the EUs timetable of negotiations, and b) agree the WA with Angela Merkel, which she presented as a done deal, at the Chequers meeting, all while DD was negotiating a different agreement.
Refusal to consider other alternatives. (Maybe not possible, but there could have bee, say, a smaller ref in NI only on whether a border across NI or in the Irish Sea is preferable (OK maybe this is a silly idea, but this is just an example).
So, I don't feel sorry for her, and she should probably have resigned when there was a challenge last December.

DolorestheNewt · 29/03/2019 12:55

Hearhere I was thinking about that mentally ill thing. To me, I don't know if I'd describe it as a mental illness, but I'd certainly consider the idea that something in her communication skillset is badly disordered. There is a lot of hearsay evidence to suggest that she does not listen, and with the little information that she does hear, she pays no attention but goes ahead on her own path, generally a badly judged one. I looked up the definition of psychopath because I wasn't certain of it: "a person suffering from chronic mental disorder with abnormal or violent social behaviour." I find it quite persuasive that she presents with a non-violent form of psychopathy.

expatinspain · 29/03/2019 12:55

I feel sorry for her on a human level, yes. She's made some poor decisions and took on a poison chalice. I don't like her or her politics, but I can separate that and feel sympathy for how stressful her life is at the moment. I don't understand why anyone would want to step in and take the reins of the shit show that's Brexit. Unless they're a magician they're going to end up with a large portion of the country despising them. It's a tough gig.

Theworldisfullofgs · 29/03/2019 12:56

Alec or a stressed Personality Disorder.

AutumnCrow · 29/03/2019 13:20

One of my relatives would accept any poison chalice like a shot if it brought her fame, status and staffed residences. She's clever, too. Yet she only listens to her husband, never her professional colleagues, because her prime directive is benefiting their status and finances as some sort of power couple.

She's the sort that has to re-do or undo every little job someone's already done perfectly adequately (from folding sheets to writing a departmental policy).

I know it's a bit Miss Marplish to say that Theresa May is like someone from my village - but they are of the same type.