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To feel desperately sorry for Theresa May

398 replies

ferns99 · 28/03/2019 11:58

On a human level I just feel so sorry for her - she looks like she's aged so much and is apparently becoming quite unwell because of the immense stress she's under. To be continually ripped to shreds by the despicable ERG and so many others in the House of Commons is just awful - I don't know how she does it. A few times I've seen her looking like she's on the verge of tears. I wonder if she goes home every night and just sobs - I know I would.

It's sad as I think she would have made a decent PM if Brexit didn't exist.

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DGRossetti · 28/03/2019 18:41

Rossetti I wasn't talking abort mysogony on this thread.

but mentioned it ... on this thread

I was talking about it out there in the political sphere.

No argument there. Pretty much all spheres, I think.

bordellosboheme · 28/03/2019 18:42

Eh?? Don't follow the logic there. You can talk about a phenomenon in a thread without suggesting its happened on the thread.... Grin

ThunderStorms · 28/03/2019 18:43

GAre you all feeling sorry for her because she's a woman?*
Would you feel sorry for a man in her position?

Absolutely, yes I would. But then I’d probably be referred to as a 'handmaiden'. 😒

I grudgingly felt sorry for her (although don’t like what she stands for ), but I’m feeling less sorry for her as this mess goes on.

I do think she deserves a long holiday after all this, but then so do many and they can’t afford long holidays...

ooooohbetty · 28/03/2019 18:51

I feel really sorry for her and so do a lot of people I know. I think that no matter what I think of her political leanings she's tried really hard to do the best thing for the country given that the vote was to leave and she herself is a remainer. She's been totally shafted by the self serving, greedy bunch of hypocrites in parliament. She probably felt like leaving ages ago but knew that doing that wouldn't have been a good thing for the country atm. I admire her tenacity and she's a grafter. I don't know how she's kept going without going off on the sick with stress Grin

Theworldisfullofgs · 28/03/2019 18:56

It's her own red lines that have done her in. Particularly the anti immigration one...

BertrandRussell · 28/03/2019 19:11

Shr’s Racist and xenophobic. I do not feel sorry for her.

Harebel · 28/03/2019 19:11

Lol to PP who suggested Nicola sturgeon would handle it better. Fuck that shit, no she wouldn't. Her policies are sending Scotland down the pan and for someone who claims to have a lot in common with our European neighbours certainly displays an ingrained xenophobia of our even closer neighbour England.

Alsohuman · 28/03/2019 19:24

She’s shafted herself, she didn’t need any help.

BertrandRussell · 28/03/2019 19:29

“She tried to fall on her sword-and missed” as Nicola Sturgeon put it.

ForalltheSaints · 28/03/2019 19:43

I don't feel sorry for her. Any sympathy ended when Boris Johnson was appointed to the cabinet and a completely unnecessary deal was done with the DUP.

Iamslave · 28/03/2019 19:48

Yes I feel sorry for her.

She's Been battling on every single side.

Redcrayons · 28/03/2019 20:01

“She tried to fall on her sword-and missed” as Nicola Sturgeon put it Grin

Peregrina · 28/03/2019 20:46

Since when has Theresa May considered the good of the country? For her, it's all about the Tory party.

DarkAtEndOfTunnel · 28/03/2019 21:07

I've felt sorry for her at points and respected her at points. But she has also absolutely refused to defend the law lords against tabloids, and then did that ludicrous interview when she blamed parliament for all the troubles. OK, there's no agreement in parliament, but what do you expect of such a badly handled issue? I cannot sympathise for a leader of a national government publicly undermining the institutions promoting law and order in a country. It's a step closer to dictatorship. Her refusal to talk to anyone else in Parliament is entirely her own choice, and is continuing the slow destruction of our country.

VenusStarr · 28/03/2019 21:09

I don't really get what's been in it for her. She's steadfastly taken the country down a path that she doesn't agree with and didn't need to take, for what, power? She's the PM, she could've just said no. And now she's saying, take this shitty brexit deal and I'll resign. I don't get it.

I don't think we should be grateful that she was handed a poisoned chalice so we should all respect her for it. I don't feel sorry for her. She had plenty of opportunities and plenty of other options but chose to take none of them.

I don't understand what drives her. She's delivered a shit offer and everyone knows it's crap so her bargaining tool is to let us have it and she can save herself. I would say good riddance but they're all fucking awful.

TheGardenFairy · 28/03/2019 21:10

ForalltheSaints

I don't feel sorry for her. Any sympathy ended when Boris Johnson was appointed to the cabinet and a completely unnecessary deal was done with the DUP

Why unnecessary?

DarkAtEndOfTunnel · 28/03/2019 21:30

"She's delivered a shit offer and everyone knows it's crap"

I'm not so sure of that tbh. I've seen a lot of places describe it as the best possible. Given that it's a withdrawal agreement, when it obviously is never going to be possible to have a deal as good as membership. Are you in politics, do you know all the details of all the treaties it is having to negotiate? Or are you just quoting a soundbite?

VenusStarr · 28/03/2019 21:43

The fact that her own party won't vote for it is a big giveaway that the withdrawal agreement is a bad one @DarkAtEndOfTunnel. If it was genuinely the best option, we wouldn't be having this discussion and TM wouldnt be resigning. She would be held up as an inspirational leader who saved the country. But that's not happened.

TheLastNigel · 28/03/2019 21:44

I dont know if I feel sorry for her. I just wonder how she hasn't quit already-there is a sort of steely strength of some sort there-misguided as it is-that I'm forced to be kind of in awe of.

WhiskersOnCats · 28/03/2019 21:53

She looks tired. The bags under her eyes are so swollen her eyes are almost shut sometimes. I can feel sorry for her on a human level, but I do know the effect her policies have had on at least half a million people - who also have bags under their eyes from crying.

She is very much a PM for the rich I think.

DarkAtEndOfTunnel · 28/03/2019 21:57

I disagree. I think it's a huge giveaway that there's a lot of politicking in play, for personal interests mostly, and some genuine confusion about the best way to head out of a series of bad choices.

applesarerroundandshiny · 28/03/2019 22:16

Yes I feel sorry for her - she can't win can she? Obviously she didn't have to put herself forward for the job, but if she hadn't then the alternative would have been one of the hardliners who would have pushed us through a no deal already. And there isn't really an agreement to be had us there? The desks she's bringing to parliament are not going to go through as half want a hard no deal brexit and the other half don't want any brexit.

I don't think the mess is if her making.

trebless · 28/03/2019 22:24

I do think she's aged a lot, you can see the amount of stress she's under but....I don't feel sorry for her.

I imagine her like the gp at your local doctors that you can always get an appointment with straight away as no one really likes them....when you go, she says there's nothing wrong with you and makes you feel like a twat for going and wasting their time.

Probably just me that thinks this but 🤷🏻‍♀️

Caztonette · 28/03/2019 22:28

She voluntarily took the job. Obviously it was an immensely difficult one, but she's largely fucked it up since.

I feel the odd twinge of sympathy but it quickly passes.

velocitykate · 28/03/2019 22:32

I do and I don't. I do because it was always going to be a very difficult job and she was really the only candidate that I think could have made a job of it (The thought of Gove, Bojo, JRM or Andrea Leadsom taking over from her is terrifying) but that's as far as it goes.

From the very beginning, her order of priorities has been - herself and her husband, the Tory party and then, finally, the good of the country. At the very beginning, she set down red lines of what Brexit should/should not be and has stubbornly and intransigently refused to be deviated from this. She has refused to engage in any cross party working or even listened really to any of her own MPs.

And now, she's so obsessed with her deal that she wants to bring it back a third time and has offered to resign to get it through. And then snakes in the grass who have their own interests at heart have suddenly decided to change their minds??

I hate the DUP but at least they have stuck to their principles. And now, we're all up s* creek without a paddle.

On a human level, I have sympathy for her because it's a difficult job and she's knackered and stressed, but beyond that - No. the mess the country is in is entirely of her own and David Cameron's making.

Even my cleaner, who voted to leave, told me that she wished we'd never had a referendum in the first place this morning. What a Pandora's box that opened......