To think this could be the end of brexit as mps take control of the process from the PM

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Theresa may now really cant go for a hard brexit, anyone else think it's brexit cancelled?

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241584

To be fair the petition has been going up by the second since it started but lovely to see it still rising and incredible if it goes over 6 million by tomorrow!

I'm sure this has been posted already but:

www.livefrombrexit.com/petitions/#henley

The breakdown makes interesting reading!

Sorry, not sure why it's focused on Henley! But numbers at the top.

I'm sure it's been posted already though. I've not read the whole thread yet but I will!

Trekkingbeyond

It was really sluggish over the last 2 days: it’s suddenky taken right off again.

Of course I do Nite, doesn't everyone? No, some people vote for the party whose values most closely align with their own and for what they think will be best for the country overall - eg higher rate taxpayers voting Labour because they see the benefit to society of well-funded public services rather than voting Tory to get a few extra quid in their own pocket. I’m not saying I don’t consider my own situation but I can’t imagine voting on such narrow criteria.

Actually I was looking at the petition this morning and it was going at about the same pace it is now. About 20 or so signatures every ten seconds. Which is good.

I call BS, Nite. Or if you are honest, you are in the minority. I'm too poor to be a Tory or to care about tax btw, public service funding, I care about and I have never, nor will I ever vote UKIP.

I too vote for what is best for this country. I don't have children myself but vote with young peoples future in mind, as well as other vulnerable sections of society. I'm a higher rate taxpayer but will never vote Tory.

I'm a remainer not because I have children who can study in Europe (although I spent time doing just that), but because it is due to the EU that poor areas of this country have been given money. Anyone thinking that a Tory govt will replace EU funding for those regions is seriously in cloud cuckoo land - as Cornwall is now discovering.

Not all Leave areas recieved shedloads of funding from the EU, mine doesn't. Also if people get angry that funding isn't replaced, they will/ can petition the government or march Or can only remainers do that

@Justheretogiveaviewfrommyworld you naive fool. Do your u really think this govt gives a fuck?

So remainers are naive fools, too then Leigh? and Did you mean to be so rude?

Yes I did.

Nahhhh leavers are never rude. It's only Remainers who are rude.

#brexitrule no 5

Based on my experience on here, remainers do most of the insult slinging. Leigh, so are Remainers who are marching and petitioning naive fools?

As an American expat (immigrant), I'm embarrassed by Americandream, assuming he/she is an American. A minority of Americans have lost their damn minds, and are now able to control the fate of the majority. Sound familiar? At least in the UK, enough folks have changed their minds based upon new, correct information. If people were lied to, they deserve another vote!

I don’t think any of us know the details of TM’s deal. Neither do we know what “ no deal” will really mean.
The democratic vote was, unfortunately, to leave so leave we must. TM has at least been true to this.
Our extremely well paid, generously expense supported politicians are clearly self centred, self serving and vain. What an appalling example they are presenting to us, their public, and representing to the world. Whilst I applaud TM’s resilience I am completely embarrassed and ashamed of the rest of the politicians and their self serving, sickening activities. Whichever way you voted, whatever your views now; democracy is really under threat here.
What on earth can we do?

Based on my experience on here, remainers do most of the insult slinging.

Depends what you mean by "insult". Some Leavers seem to take it as an act of aggression merely to post facts, let alone to suggest that their posts demonstrate a lack of knowledge of salient information. When you get posts like AmericanDream's, there really isn't any polite way to respond - and I would say the same if she were forecasting death, war and destruction if Remainers don't get their way.

Then again, you get people like the ones in the Mail's BTL comments who were absolutely outraged when Parliament took control because, quote, "no-one voted for them". Calling someone like that stupid is a simple statement of fact which if anything flatters them, it's not an insult.

Gbtch
Well said.

The democratic vote

It was advisory and corrupted, but let's skip over that.

TMs deal is a matter of public record.
Anybody and everybody can read the detail.
The impact of “no deal” has been laid out in great detail in multiple cabinet office papers , again all in the public domain.

I don’t know why anyone expected the MPs to all agree strongly on one option of eight after having only seen the details for about five minutes.

May’s deal’s been doing the rounds for 3 months. Give them the weekend to digest it all and have another crack on Monday.

I never truly believed Brexit would happen because it would spell the end of the gravy train for the elite.....and democracy is merely an illusion in this country.
I give up.

Why is it not happening?

I didn't vote before as I was undecided about all the scaremongering but hopefully there wil be a second referendum as I would like to vote to REMAIN as it seems better for the economy and relations with our neighbours to try and get on with them rather than to shun them.

Also I would like to do help do anything to take the power away from those awful misogynists Johnson and Corbyn.