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children that are firghtened of dogs and how i find some parents are encouraging their fear

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haychee · 11/07/2007 10:46

I have 2 medium to large dogs and i get so cross when i come accross children that just lose the plot if the dogs go near them. I can understand that they are frightened and i call the dogs away from the child instantly. But what makes me cross is the parents responses, "that dog should be on a lead" or i just get looks that could kill you dead. My arguement is, that if the child is that frightened then why would you take him or her to a place where dogs are everywhere in a dog walking area. Why do parents encourage their childrens fear by making these comments? what good does it do for the child? I actually saw one mother once who picked her child up every time the dog was anywhere close (like 4-5meters away). The child got increasingly anxious and the mother ended up having a go at me. I know and fully appreciate that some dogs are dangerous but mine arent and i think that when parents react like this infront of their children the message they are displaying is that its ok to be this frightened of dogs.

My daughter was once frightened of thunder so i purposely sat up with her watching a storm and saying things like "wow, that one was very loud" and " cor, look at that lightening isnt it beautiful". Because of this time i spent with her and the way we watched it together has dulled her fear - infact she gets quite excited if there is a storm brewing now.
Any one else feel the same or can understand where im coming from? or maybe your one of these types of parents that react like this? I would like to discuss the issue if anyone has any comments?

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NKF · 11/07/2007 21:45

What does it mean? I can't start a thread just to find out. I'll look like such a rookie.

chocolatedot · 11/07/2007 21:45

I would have thought Haychee that you might have gained some insight from this thread. I am not afraid of dogs and nor are my children but I have certainly learnt a great deal about other people's different attitudes to dogs here.

We are about to get our first dog and I shall certainly bear the sensitiveities highlighted on this thread when we are out in public.

RubySlippers · 11/07/2007 21:45

yes - you should try it
very therapeutic

haychee · 11/07/2007 21:46

I did call my dogs to heel. I did walk off. It was her attitude to me having them off the lead doing nothing much at all that annoyed me. If they had of gone up, jumped up or licked or were at all aggressive then i would understand it but they were some distance away keeping themselves to themselves.

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peanutbear · 11/07/2007 21:46

no never haychee in true me style I have bought loads of books and questioned the vets to death my step-father used to breed horses (a lot different I know) but I am hoping the science might be the same and if she has 8 that the children will let me give away some off them

LittleLupin · 11/07/2007 21:46

[[http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk?topicid=1374&threadid=354666&stamp=070711211433 Just for you NKF]

LittleLupin · 11/07/2007 21:46

Oh bolleaux

NKF · 11/07/2007 21:47

Oh well, Haychee. I'd just write it off and have a glass of wine. Day's over now.

RubySlippers · 11/07/2007 21:47

littlelupin summarises parping on this thread

Speccy · 11/07/2007 21:47

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winestein · 11/07/2007 21:48

Peanut - my dog has a lab pal who he bums around with (ok, if it wasn't so late at night I would re-phrase that. Now I'm upset that I consider anytime before 12 as late, but hey, that's a whole different thread!) She is one of the pink-nosed varieties that I have seen described on MN as "cock-nose" which makes me wheeze with laughter, unable to explain to cock-noses owner why I laugh everytime she bounds out of a hedge and ambushes us

NOTE: This is is fields with no kids, but some effin cows from time to time

haychee · 11/07/2007 21:48

Good chocolatedot im glad some good and some learning has come out of this thread. Yes i have learnt somethings, admitted.

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NKF · 11/07/2007 21:48

Thanks RS.

MamaMaiasaura · 11/07/2007 21:50

by Haychee @ 11.23 today
'But when a child screams or runs they think its a game and we end up in a viscous circle of screaming and running and chasing.'

I thought your dogs dont get within 5 metres.

NOt to be childish..... but..
LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE.

FFS, you seem to have some real issues with reality. Staff Nurse.. My arse.

NKF · 11/07/2007 21:51

They think it's a game. They don't think do they? That's why they're so scary. Hairy, big with teeth and small brains.

peanutbear · 11/07/2007 21:51

winestein I am never going to look at a pink nose lab the same again!!!!!

love the name

MamaMaiasaura · 11/07/2007 21:51

need to learn to PARRRP properly fuck.

LittleLupin · 11/07/2007 21:52

Who are you describing, NKF?!

pagwatch · 11/07/2007 21:53

We have a dog who is kept on a lead except in the local woods which are usually quiet when we go. If we see other he is called to the lead until we get close enoughto the walker/hikers/ dog walkers who often then indicate they are happy for him to come and say hello. He is a very happy old english sheepdog who people are often interested in approaching but we let THE PEOPLE CHOOSE. He is never allowed to approach adults or especially kids off the leash. If your dog is chasing children then he is out of control, albeit momentarily.
More to the point I also have a son who is autistic and was once terrified by a small yappy little bastard of a thing that ran at him. His owner shouted at me " ooh he won't hurt" How the f* is my child with no communication skills supposed to figure that one out ! This was at a park.
He is now terrified of every dog except ours and if your animals were to even go near him off the leash he would be terrified. I have to repeat things back to him to reassure him and to the uneducated ( yep that includes you ) that may look like I am encouraging his fear.
Now I wait for you to tell me my son should not be out ....

MrsFish · 11/07/2007 21:53

I think she was describing two different events???

The OP was that the dog wasn't close...
The other one you quoted was a different time??

BUt what do I know

haychee · 11/07/2007 21:53

peanutbear
Good luck! My dd1 was very upset when they left for their new homes. Luckily we found good homes for 4 out of the 6 she had, and we meet up regularly so dd1 gets to see them all and that keeps her satisfied. We kept one and one went to home that wasnt ideal, i think they gave him up after 4months, they couldnt be arsed to do the training and the exercise dogs of this breed deperately need. That was my biggest regret and still is, that i dont know where he is and how he is being looked after.

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NKF · 11/07/2007 21:56

The real bore of a dog scaring a child is that until the child forgets, outings in the path can be ruined. It can take weeks of saying "No, it's okay. Look it's on a lead etc" before you can enjoy a walk in the park again. Bleeding stupid dog isn't bothered, neither is the owner, parent has to deal with the child's fear.

peanutbear · 11/07/2007 21:56

Im hoping they will go to good homes thats the thing that worries me most I must admit I would rther give them to a nice family than get paid nd not know where they are going IYKWIM

luckily 3 very good friends want one each

MrsFish · 11/07/2007 21:57

Has this topic now morphed into a breeding one?

perhaps you should start a new topic?

haychee · 11/07/2007 21:58

95D0803E is my nursing registration number feel free to check it out!
The point i was trying to make with the screaming running cycle was that if kids didnt do that they wouldnt encurage a dog to be interested in them. Again it has been misconstued out of the context it was meant to be in.
I totally respect the issue of autistic children and this hadnt occurred to me before today, admitted.

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