To think wtf Barbra Streisand?

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There is no excusing MJ actions, nor the actions of the parents of those boys.

Too right!

The people affected were the children - they didn't get a say in whether they were happy about it - they were effectively sold to a sexual predator.

They might not have physically died, but spiritually,emotionally - what knows what has gone on. And as most abusers have been abused themselves (NOT AN EXCUSE - just a sorry fact of life) - it could be that at least some of them will abuse in their turn and corrupt and ruin other young lives.

My Streisand CDs are going to the tip! I'd always loved her music, but I won't be able to listen to her now without thinking of her vile, arrogant, entitled comments.

I've never been a fan of Streisand and now with that incredibly insensitive comment I actively dislike her. Way to go, Barbra.

I think it's a fair point to say that the parents were guilty as well.

But saying the "children were happy to be there" and that the fact they got married means no real harm was done. Was sick and wrong. As is that he had his "needs". Thats been an excuse for spousal rape forever. Never heard it used abour children though

After watching the documentary there's not a single doubt in my mind that Safechuck's and Robson's accounts are accurate, and whilst my heart breaks for them imagining how painful it must be to not be believed, I guess I can conceptually understand some fans still not being able to accept that their idol was a serial child abuser.

Barbara Streisand's comments aren't coming from a place of not being able to believe Jackson was an abuser, though - she's saying that she completely believes the accounts of him raping prepubescent children and it's 'sad' but he had to have his 'needs' met and his victims didn't die, so...

Of course there's an argument to be made in favour of not instantly writing off abusers as monsters and 'other' - it's important to try and understand the background of abusers and how the cycle of abuse can perpetuate. However in this case where the abuser was idolised beyond all measure for his entire life, used his power and wealth to groom, manipulate and silence his victims who've had to deal with not being believed for so long, and never faced any sort of justice, I think the time for sympathising with Jackson in any was is not now.

She's said that MJ got his needs met and that the boys came to no real or lasting harm, so it's no big deal really.

I don't mind calling another woman a bitch on this occasion.

Disgusting abuse apologist!

Mixed feelings about this, to be honest. She believes the victims and at the same time acknowledges that MJ was a damaged human being, for whatever reason. I think she minimises the effects of CSA because that is what many people of her generation had to do, in order to survive. I don't think many younger people really understand that.

Hollywood knew what MJ was up to with those young boys constantly by his side, but swept it under the carpet and covered it up, she is still doing that.

On twitter she's said this to the POTUS:

"Mr. Trump, have you no decency sir?"

Pot. Kettle. Black.

Absolutely horrific comments and so insulting to all those survivors who now know that in her eyes because they didn't commit suicide their suffering is no big deal.

She believes the victims and at the same time acknowledges that MJ was a damaged human being, for whatever reason
All child abusers are damaged people its not a defence.

So is she also saying she knew what he was doing at the time - and condoned it?

Money can't buy you brain cells or compassion it seems.

Hollywood knew what MJ was up to with those young boys constantly by his side, but swept it under the carpet and covered it up, she is still doing that.

I think she's done the opposite of sweeping it under the carpet now with those comments. She's stated that he did it.

Abuse is always the fault of the abuser. The parents were manipulated as many parents are, sadly money and celebrity will easily help you manipulate some people.

As a parent it wouldn’t have mattered how famous the person was male or female.

If an old man or woman asks for your dc to have a sleepover with them as a parent you must have been wtf.

If you don’t then I don’t think you are capable of looking after children.

Yes there might have been a sexual need but it was up to the parents to not feed it.

I wonder what they thought was going to happen

Lucky Minnie Driver, nearly had her as a MIL. Imagine the MN post

i would rather read the interview agree, than what the dm publishes

uk.yahoo.com/news/barbra-streisand-says-she-absolutely-052850518.html

She’s vile

surprised this MJ business has taken so long to come out?

I've never been a fan, average actress famous for being famous and hanging out with even more famous people - like paedo MJ. Her comments show her as being vile and totally disconnected from society. She thinks she can say what she likes and the world will still love her. Vile woman!

Wouldn't trust the article tbh.

Me too, I thought that was it for MJ back in the early 90's when the first accusations started being made and even that seemed quite long time since MJ's blatant "Peter Pan" behaviour.

There are always apologists for "great artists" look at Roman Polanski. Lots of stars have continued to work on his pictures, in 2009 many stars who have joined in the #Metoo campaign were happy to sign a petition in support of Polanski (Emma Thompson, Natalie Portman, Tilda Swinton are a few I recall) and Whoopi Goldberg who said it wasn't "rape, rape", like there are graduations and that somehow the drugging and anal rape of 13 year old child is okay if you are a rich, big shot director and your mother allowed you to go unaccompanied to a Hollywood house.

This is taken from a New York tabloid
Barbra Streisand says Michael Jackson’s accusers were ‘thrilled to be there’ and his ‘sexual needs were his sexual needs’ “You can say ‘molested,' but those children...both married and they both have children, so it didn’t kill them," she said.