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Is this school newsletter too rude?

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RudeHead · 19/03/2019 17:19

NC as obviously outing to other parents. This week's primary school newsletter had the following from the head^^ about parents' evening...

Thank you for all the positive comments that teachers received yesterday. They all work so hard for each child in their class. Though I have noticed that there are too many parents not attending the parents meeting and making individual appointments with teachers before and after school This will not be allowed. We start at 1.30pm and finish at 7pm so whatever job you have, you can still make the consultation. I have to keep the workload down for our teachers. If there is a reason why you cannot meet on the designated parent consultation, which is dated in September, then please write to me.

AIBU that this is unacceptably rude? I feel like I should write in or something. I get her point but surely there's a better way to make it?

OP posts:
SoftSheen · 19/03/2019 22:19

YellowFish123 To see that kind of service in the NHS or state schools would require a massive increase in funding, which just isn't going to happen. And from what I hear of others' experience of Virgin Healthcare, they shouldn't be running anything.

cantkeepawayforever · 19/03/2019 22:22

Private healthcare....hmm. After a while living in the US with a small baby, I vowed I would never, ever again complain about the NHS.

Yes, it might be creaky. But in terms of universally available healthcare, free and accessible at the point of genuine need...you only miss it when it's not there.

RockingMyFiftiesNot · 19/03/2019 22:22

I have friends who are teachers who couldn't make their own children's parents evenings for the same reasons. Tough call

YellowFish123 · 19/03/2019 22:23

As I said, the parent and child are the teacher's clients @cantkeepawayforever, it's up to the teacher to meet their needs.

If that means the best time for the parent to meet is 9pm or 7am- then that's when they meet. There is also Skype or telephone available.

DH runs a very successful free school which puts the needs of pupils and parents first- parents are able to book an appointment that suits them on and day or time, which means you have exceptional attendance and parent engagement.

MsRabbitRocks · 19/03/2019 22:24

The sooner we have Virgin Healthcare in the UK, the better as far as I'm concerned.

Thank you OP, for bringing out the nutters tonight. Although, seeing as you have pretty much abandoned this thread, it is pretty obvious what your motives originally were. Enjoying this are you?

cantkeepawayforever · 19/03/2019 22:25

Yellow,

How many children per class in your DH's school?

How many children in total?

% SEN?

% PP children?

Funding per child?

What percentage of teachers have their own children, and how long have they been in their jobs so far? Do they have standard Burgundy Book pay and conditions?

paddlingwhenIshouldbeworking · 19/03/2019 22:25

Yeah right.

Anyway for those of us that live in the real world. The headteacher has said those who can't make it on the prescribed day can write to her. So this is a storm in a teacup.

YellowFish123 · 19/03/2019 22:25

It's not either the NHS or the awful American system @cantkeepawayforever.

The majority of Europe has an insurance model which guarantees everyone high quality care. My PIL are from Germany and cannot believe the state of the health system here. They can book a GP appointment online and be seen that evening(at a time that suits them).

Missmarplesknitting · 19/03/2019 22:26

Oh fucking hell, is that Toby Young's wife.

He's not fit to run for the bus, never kinda sodding school.

This thread is very much "who put 50p in the ignoramus?"

paddlingwhenIshouldbeworking · 19/03/2019 22:26

Ok Yellow, I've spent a lot of time in Germany and that's not quite a universal truth.

YellowFish123 · 19/03/2019 22:27

DH has contracts in place for teaching and other staff that ensure they are able to meet the needs of parents and pupils in a flexible and efficient manner @cantkeepawayforever

cantkeepawayforever · 19/03/2019 22:27

The children are in my care, in school hours, and their education is my responsibility, in partnership with parents.

Parents exercise their legal responsibility, for providing a full time education appropriate for their child's interests and aptitudes, by choosing for their child to attend the school.

It is not a client relationship.

clairemcnam · 19/03/2019 22:28

I agree with the Head.

But I go to the dentist on a Saturday and my GP offers appointments till 7pm one day a week. I visited my solicitor to sign for the house on a Saturday morning. And my hairdresser is open all day on a Saturday.

cantkeepawayforever · 19/03/2019 22:28

And how many of those staff have children of their own, and how long have they taught there? Do they have pay and conditions that are at least as good as burgundy Book ones?

paddlingwhenIshouldbeworking · 19/03/2019 22:29

In fact I think there's probably very little truth being spoken. Because certainly for absolutely no profession in this country except for emergency plumbers and the like (who charge handsomely for this service) can I call up and insist I am seen at 9pm on a night of my choice.

Missmarplesknitting · 19/03/2019 22:30

Your hairdresser has Mondays off.
The dentist will work 5 days a week. They'll get weekdays off.

You want teachers in Monday to Saturday.

Better pay for them then.

daisypetal321 · 19/03/2019 22:30

After reading @YellowFish123 ‘s posts how can anyone fail to understand the shortage of teachers in this country?!? Presumably exam results are down to the teacher and not the child as well?!?

thedisorganisedmum · 19/03/2019 22:30

Is Virgin Healthcare that scheme with a lifetime cap, so if use your allowance too young, with silly thing like a cancer or any other health problem, then you are screwed?

I am dying to know which European country has a magical insurance system, is it Belgium? (I honestly do not know the 1st thing about that one).

Kolo · 19/03/2019 22:31

@newnamenewschool

*Given that we’ve joined the current school partway through the second half of the spring term, we’ll have almost certainly missed out on getting anything that’s handed out on the first day of the school year.

I’m not convinced that there’ll definitely be a paper school calendar though.
DC’s previous school did not hand out paper school calendars at all, the previous school did as much of their communications as possible electronically, and only sent home bits of paper if parents needed to fill in forms or sign things.*

Yes, that’s what I meant when I said you may have missed the paper calendar; that you’re kids weren’t started there at that point. I hope it didn’t read as if I was blaming you for ‘missing it’. Blush

I’d only said about the paper calendar because you said parents evenings weren’t on your school’s online calendar. Some schools are great at embracing paper free communication techniques! Some are really not. The school my kids attend send texts, a weekly newspaper by email and paper version, have a full online calendar and send a paper one at the start of the year anyway Hmm.

Kolo · 19/03/2019 22:31

Why can’t I make things bold anymore???

paddlingwhenIshouldbeworking · 19/03/2019 22:31

But the hairdresser who is open all day Saturday will have a day off in the week. The GP who offers evening appointments once a week will have compensatory time and cover from another GP will be available.

These are cloud cuckoo land arguments and the situations compared are not comparable.

I presume you want your child's teaching teaching them and you want to see your child's actual teacher, not any teacher who's available

YellowFish123 · 19/03/2019 22:32

Nope, that's a lie spread by vested interests to protect the ineffective and hopeless NHS @thedisorganisedmum

thedisorganisedmum · 19/03/2019 22:32

Because certainly for absolutely no profession in this country except for emergency plumbers and the like (who charge handsomely for this service) can I call up and insist I am seen at 9pm on a night of my choice.

Sales Sad
If they don't, competition get the client..

Joke aside, expecting teachers to offer parents -meeting 24/7 is ridiculous.

Missmarplesknitting · 19/03/2019 22:33

Those parents evenings would be so quick. Who's your child?
Read data.
Next!

And useless.

No wonder teachers are leaving in droves. Parents want the world on a stick, when they want it, and to be spoon fed through the process.

paddlingwhenIshouldbeworking · 19/03/2019 22:34

Thank you Yellow, its taken your ridiculous arguments for the common sense element to come through.

(Am not even a teacher!)

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