To think some people are just unlucky?

[Iseverynametaken]

Starting to feel like I might be unlucky. Seems like things always just, not only go wrong, but seemingly all at once. I try very hard to be positive and am a very caring and giving person so at times selfishly think why me? I feel like I notice some people manage to just coast through life and things seem to always go their way, while others, try as they might, seem to just always have a hard time. I do have anxiety and perhaps look at other peoples lives through rose tinted glasses, but even my husband agrees we do seem to cop the short end of the stick alot.

Not wanting to have a pity party over here, but just having a hard time staying upbeat at the moment! (Hoping that things surely turn around soon)

I think if you feel your life is consistently shit. Not just one or 2 incidents where you have been made redundant or a parent has died and you keep referring to those incidents that make you unlucky but more the low level dissatisfaction that nothing just goes according to plan and the feeling that someone somewhere is throwing a spanner in the works and life shouldn’t have to be this hard and no matter how hard you work there just isn’t enough money coming in to cover basic bills then moving far away could be the answer.
That’s where Astrocartography comes into play.

I have seen a friend completely change from a person who always struggled with keeping down multiple jobs, whilst being a single parent because her dh died young leaving her with 4 children to moving far away to a place she immediately said felt like home and now her life is a complete opposite to what she had. She now has money, time and fun and the ability to deliver and collect her children from school.

@Oliversmumsarmy It could work on horses. You would need all of their times, dates and places of birth to start with.

It doesn't work on horses, it doesn't work on humans. Because it doesn't work at all. Loads of people have convinced themselves they are "special" and can read the future, with cards, tealeaves or whatever. None of them have ever been able to prove it under laboratory conditions. Not one. Ever. They're all either deluded or scam artists. I'm going to be generous and put you into the deluded pile.

Loads of people have convinced themselves they are "special" and can read the future, with cards, tealeaves or whatever

Astrology isn’t about making forecast on a whim.

Certain things physically have to happen.

How do you test astrology under laboratory conditions when it is about what is happening in someones life.

Friends marriage broke down when her stbexh was taken out of the house in the early hours of the morning of for instance 3rd March 2016. Her chart read she would split with her husband on 2nd March (which was when the final argument began)

Her chart said the divorce would take over 3 years and I read her chart that gave a certain date when it would be concluded.

No one believed me, even friend, that it would take that long but it is now looking like the date I said over 3 years ago when things should be concluded.

Anyone can read an astrology chart, it isn’t that difficult so don’t know what you are referring to saying people who can do it are deluded or scam artist because anyone can do it.

Does that make everyone deluded or a scam artist, including you?

I would say that you don't always know what other people are going through. There is a mum at my children's school. She is incredibly stylish and so hip it hurts. She seems to live a perfect instagrammable life and has always fascinated me. I found out recently that she was seriously ill with cancer a few years ago and that her only child has autism (not that there is anything wrong with that but it can bring extra challenges) and he has been bullied. Unless we are close to people or people confide in us we don't necessarily know what they are going through.

Anyone can read an astrology chart, it isn’t that difficult so don’t know what you are referring to saying people who can do it are deluded or scam artist because anyone can do it.

Anyone may be able to do it, but only a deluded person would take a blind bit of notice of it. Or a scam artist if they were offering the information for money.

The position of far away planets and stars when you were born has absolutely no bearing on whether you are going to get shot in Dallas on a certain day, as you claimed, or the result of a referendum, as you claimed. Anyone with an ounce of critical thinking skills would know this.

Oliversmumsarmy in your example, I think it was less 'astrocartography' and more having the chance at a fresh start.

Lifecraft

Astrology has been around for thousands of years.

Governments (obviously not David Cameron) have based getting laws passed by consulting advisors, other members of their parliament and astrology charts.
It is not unheard of.

Whilst far away planets might seem to have nothing to do with what happens here on earth, the evidence seems to suggest otherwise.
I suppose it could be argued they actually do have a physical effect given if Mars or the Moon suddenly wasn’t there would Earth have a different gravitational pull.

Just looked at a natal chart for someone who has a very specific talent. (Very random and not exactly something that is widely pursued)

Her chart in several placements makes mention of this specific artform as something they should pursue although they will doubt themselves and spend too much time pursuing a more sensible option.

Which is exactly what she has done.

I don't believe in luck, good or bad. Everything is either chance, human agency, or a combination of both.

If you say something is bad luck, or that you are unlucky, you are making it personal, like the universe has a vendetta against you. If you consider it to be chance, it seems less of an attack and you can stop being defensive. Anything can happen to anyone.

You may be born into a happy, secure, comfortably off family who nurture their members and encourage them to do well. Equally, you may be born into a dysfunctional family who are hostile to each other and generally reduce the chances of those offspring of doing well. Some people can overcome this kind of start in life, some can't. It's all chance and human agency. The pp who said that resilience and how people respond to their misfortunes play a large part in how their lives go had a really good point. Similar problems happen to people all the time, but how they deal with it makes a huge difference to the outcome - and can have a knock-on effect on other issues.

I'm not saying to anyone "Your problems are all your own fault", because that's not true and unnecessary. But I think a lot of people do make their problems worse, unwittingly or otherwise.

Chance or human agency. Sometimes shit just happens.

How do you test astrology under laboratory conditions when it is about what is happening in someones life.

You list ALL the predictions, then compare what happened with what didn't after a suitable amount of time.
For a large enough number of people.

Then you have to set up a control group with random predictions.
Both groups are told the predictions.

Then you have two other separate groups (chart plus fake chart) that aren't told the predictions.

Four groups in total, then statistically compare the number of correct vs incorrect predictions vs the control groups.

Lweji Do it! Someone should do that test. It would get a LOT of press attention. I'd be a guinea pig.

I'll propose it in the next funding round.

Well all the readings I gave done have come true even down to within 24 hours.

You only had to look at the usual astrology websites to see that we were going to leave the EU and that Trump was going to win.

Some of mine we won’t know till a few more years.
(I think a friends son should pursue a particular career. He is pursuing a ultra stable career which every thing in his horoscope says he is not suited for).

Whilst far away planets might seem to have nothing to do with what happens here on earth, the evidence seems to suggest otherwise.

We're not talking about gravitational pulls, we're talking about the movement of planets and their postion when you were born meaning you lose elections or get shot in Dallas.

Please point me in the direction of some evidence that there's any truth in astrology. And by evidence, I mean peer reviewed scientific papers, not some nutcase on the internet saying "I predicted he would soon come into money, and that night he shagged a girl called penny"

I disagree. No one has an easy ride even though it might look like it. It’s more about choices to an extent.

Olivers mummy do you do readings? I am looking for someone to do one for me.

Iseverynametaken

I know nothing about the Law of Attraction and I dont believe in readings of any sorts.

My belief OP is you need to change the narrative.
I am super anxious but after a cancer I survived and councelling/CBT I am able to shake the bad thoughts when they come. I recognise the signs (I will be able to anticipate them but not yet) and get rid of them. So now I can decide how I want to read what is happening in my life:

• someone is telling me something about cancer (they have no experience) or about parenting or about my job, etc.: I choose to see that they are being compassionate, sharing, expressing an interest even if clumsy instead of thinking how patronising;
• something going wrong in my life: it is a challenge/i am being tested instead of why me?
• problem with friends/husbands: it is a difference of expectations and miscommunications instead of thinking I am lonely and I dont have real friends or my husband can belittle me sometimes.

And so on.

When you managed to change the narrative then you can see a situation or a problem for what they REALLY are not through the anxious movie you have made in your head. And only then can you action any changes you need to solve the issue

And changing the narrative is the only way to become assertive in your beliefs. And get stuck in, the busier you are the less time you have to think things over and over.

I have learnt it the hard way but it has changed my personal and family lives for the better. I do have relapsed but I can manage through them now without taking everyone with me.

Good luck

I think life is fundamentally unfair and some people seem to have things work out and others don't, but for most of us it's a mixed bag. A lot of problems such as mental health, debt, illness, eating disorders, marital problems, affairs and depression are easily hidden - it doesn't mean they are not there.

I think cultivating a hardy, positive, optimistic and grateful mindset is absolutely essential. Sometimes really bad things happen, our mental health as well as our support structure is what gets us through.