To Think Remainers Are Starting To Get Really Angry About Brexit?

[KennDodd]

I can feel the mood among Remainers, both IRL and online changing.

I’m angry, exhausted and sad. What a fucking mess our dear country is in.

A lot of wasted anger here. Really not worth it. What will be will be.

Off you go then Mama and take your self righteous bile (about people with loved ones and kids too, not all of whom will have been white btw) with you!

As a type 1 insulin dependent I'm frightened I will die

Mrs May is also T1, unless she's suicidal I hope she will have given this some thought. I'm T1 too, and I have about six months' of insulin in the fridge

Mine is dispensed 10 weeks at a time. I have 8 weeks left and have been refused an extra prescription until I have one week's left. Mrs May will no doubt have some private arrangement.

Mrs May is also T1, unless she's suicidal I hope she will have given this some thought

I really doubt insulin shortages will impact Mrs M. Think of the damage to the tories if they did....

@Imustbemad00

I think you should change your name to Imustbestupid

You really, seriously don't think this will affect you? I'm gobsmacked at your passivity.

I’ve been angry for ages but now I’m a kind of weary and embarrassed ball of rage. I’m so fucked off about the way NI has been treated that I can’t even speak coherently about it - and I’m scottish in Scotland. A total embarrassing waste of time and money, all because some fucking idiots were sold lies and believed it.

Before any leave voters tell me off for being rude - I’ll apologise if you can give me one concrete solution to the situation in NI in the event of us leaving Europe. Actually, just one positive outcome to Brexit that isn’t ‘take back control of our blue passport border ruled by foreigners’ bullshit that we’ve had to listen to for three fucking years.

Off you go then Mama and take your self righteous bile (about people with loved ones and kids too, not all of whom will have been white btw) with you!

Wtf does that even mean?!

I've always been angry.

It means that 'Leavers' who you are spouting off about and wishing ill of, have families and friends who they think will benefit from leaving the EU. You were breast beating, how much poorer we will be if you took a job in Canada, so I just thought I would remind you that it is your choice to move to another country.

It's not only remainers who are getting angry, I'm a leaver & I'm so angry that Theresa May has dragged out the negotiations & lied that she is coming back with a better deal, she obviously isn't capable of doing the job but won't admit it. The country would have more respect for her if she held her hands up & said that she couldn't do the job & called a general election. She is deluded that she is doing her best for the country, after she lost the vote tonight, she was sat there with a stupid grin on her face instead of feeling ashamed of what a mess she has made of the entire Brexit process & the trouble she has caused over the last 2 years. Not only just Brexit but the reforms on social security benefits, Universal Credit is just a train crash & the cruelty shown to severely disabled people with Personal Independence Payments, the assessment process is downright evil, paying assessors £44,000 a year to lie & cheat claimants out of benefits, forcing them to go without the money that is rightfully theirs & having to go to tribunal after waiting around a year to get a hearing, when 70% win their benefits back, they should be punished for not getting it right the first time, especially when it has been proved that the new system costs the country more than paying the correct benefits straight away. The health service has been damaged by the Tory government, the police, education, social care as well, while the Tory fat cats carry on getting richer & richer while homeless numbers are rising, crime is rising, education is suffering, children with special educational needs aren't getting the help they need, teachers are leaving in droves. It's disgusting that in this day & age we have so many people sleeping on the streets, working people are having to use foodbanks, it's the 21st century for God's sake.

@Imustbemad00 - The medicine issue, is serious, but I truly don’t believe it. I don’t for a second believe that people are going to die because of a lack of medication. We’re not a third world country.

If, as you say, you know nothing about it, what makes you think that there won't be an issue with medications? Experts in the area have expressed serious concern at the impact a no deal brexit would have on supplies. Do you think they are making it up?

I didn’t vote. I’ve never voted. I’m not trying to be ignorant. I don’t think about it because it doesn’t affect me personally and I’m not sure it ever will.

I have to say, I find this shocking. I know the electoral system in the UK can render some people's votes irrelevant if they are in an area with a safe seat but to be this far removed from understanding how decisions impact on our lives is sad.

A no deal brexit would mean ripping up every trade deal with nothing to replace most of them and taking years to replace many of them; wto terms applying until the deals can be done meaning increased prices due to high tariffs on many goods; breaking the terms of the good friday agreement and potentially seeing a return of the troubles; potentially having to allow goods of much lower standards be sold in the country; the tory government no longer having to adhere to workplace regulations that covers things like maximum working hours, maternity rights, discrimination laws, safety standards, etc. All of these things will potentially affect you.

I understand there will be a huge impact for businesses. But a selfish as it is for me to say, it doesn’t effect me so doesn’t require me to spend time worrying about it.

See my point above. It affects a damn sight more than businesses. Also, if businesses are affected, that affects the economy overall. Unemployment increases, funding for public services such as education, health, social welfare etc reduces. If you're made redundant or if there isn't enough money to provide adequate staffing in health services or teacher/pupil ratios increase resulting in increased class sizes and thus poorer quality education for your children, will you start to worry about it then?

@Imustbemad00 sorry but it will effect you.
So many businesses have already moved assets or left that we’ve now lost 1% of tax revenue. And that with only the threat of leaving if we do leave estimates of loss of tax revenue go up to 10%.
That means there’s 10% less money for hospitals, roads, social services, police, libraries, councils... basically all of our infrastructure. This will effect those on low income far more than the rich. Austerity will look like a walk in the park in comparison.

I actually think Brexit might not happen.

I'm not sure how it's going to happen but TM said many many times in that to vote her deal down again risks Brexit altogether.

Maybe I'm just hoping.

I voted Remain but I'm really fed up, not properly angry anymore.

I want it all over. I kind of wanted them to vote for this deal (just so it can all be settled and start). Now they've rejected it again I wish TM would just tell them all to get fucked and fuck Brexit. It's done. It's undeliverable.

I mean, Christ - what do Parliament actually want??? Do they think there are numerous better deals out there? Do they watch the news? Oh and this "let's take No Deal off the table" ....no deal IS the table!! (Unless there's a deal on it).

Pumper, lazy stereotyping there. Immigration had nothing to do with my vote, my GF escaped the Nazis, anyone who wants to come here is more than welcome. My area is a shithole, you'd want to be desperate to come here.

how much poorer we will be if you took a job in Canada

No she wasn’t, she was saying she didn’t want to go and leave behind family. A choice between jumping ship and starting again or staying put and having to deal with the fallout.

before everyone flames me [ i don't care anyway ] i voted leave and wouldn't change my vote, but if this doesn't go ahead, i'd never bother voting for anything ever again.
There's a difference though between voting in an election and voting in a referendum.
My understanding is that this referendum was advisory, and not binding. Even that wasn't adequately explained at the time!
We were lied and lied and lied to. It makes me so angry to think of all the consequences of leaving, and that we've spent so much on it, all based on absolute lies.

@Imustbemad00 my essential medication is made in the EU. If it’s rationed I could die. This is real according to my hospital consultant. Please don’t believe rich MPs who are making money out of Brexit, believe doctors.

That's howyou read, Pumper, but then as a fellow superior being you would.

Pumper, lazy stereotyping there

Did I miss your positive brexit outcome or did you just not have one?

(once again) a generation that has benefited from EU membership has decided to take it away from the young.

THIS!

@Imustbemad00. You don't appear to have given this much thought. Several experts have, and they say the effects of Brexit will be significant and bad. I'd listen to them if I were you.

“Claiming another referendum is undemocratic is a blag favoured by dictators and despots” this was originally in The Times and describes why the Gov’s propaganda is so wrong. 4th page to follow.

4th page

The stereotyping was that all leavers were/are racists and anti immigration. My positve Brexit outcome is that the gov. will stop having a smoke screen to hide behind with regard to the impact of their domestic policies on areas like mine. Also I'm quite happy that people in the South might taste a bit of what we have been dealing with for decades to be honest. (You asked, before you flame me)