To think that you don't walk into a vegan cafe with a Mcdonald's burger in your hand

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Had a lovely lunch yesterday at a bar that sells outstandingly good vegan food (I'm not vegan, but the food is insanely good).

As we were walking out DD asked if I had seen a family walk in with one of the children holding a Mcdonald's burger in their hand.

a) It is rude to bring your own food into a café anyway
b) It is breathtakingly rude to bring meat into a vegan café!

This place sells the most amazing chips, so they could easily have bought this child the chips instead of a McDonald's.

if it was a mcdonald burger i am sure it would be eaten in two mouthfuls.

i imagine it was a fake burger

I think it's irrelevant if the cafe was vegan or not - it's super rude to bring food from one restaurant into another.

Regular customers are a cafe's core customer base.

Would it be ok to walk into McDonald’s with a vegan sandwich?

Why do people kick up when they eat out and the establishment don’t have vegan options but a vegan cafe isn’t expected to have a meat option?

I go to a lovely cafe that serves vegetarian and vegan food, no meat on the premises but do have dairy options (amazing cakes), I’m sure if someone walked in with a burger in their hand it wouldn’t be a issue as long as the person with them was ordering food from the establishment?

"She’s out and about and getting pissed at what someone’s kid is eating."

I wasn't getting pissed, I was driving

No, I wasn't pissed off about it either. I just thought it rude.

Rude to go into a cafe with other food, regardless of where it came from. Not sure food is the word I would use to describe the offerings of McDonalds though.

Of course food brought in to a cafe is rude but we have literally zero info on what was going on here, so to call them “not decent” is a bit strong...

Just as well I didn’t. I described the sort of parents I (and you) more broadlydescribed, who indulge their child in ‘why should I be expected to not eat exactly what I want, where I want’ as not particularly decent. I’m happy to stand by that. It’s rubbish parenting.

As I said, I know what a trial it is to have a child with severely restricted eating, as I’ve lived it. It still doesn’t excuse rudeness simply in the interests of making my life easier.

Why do people kick up when they eat out and the establishment don’t have vegan options but a vegan cafe isn’t expected to have a meat option?

Because non-vegetarians can eat vegan food? And most do eat plenty of ‘vegan’ food every day as part of a balanced diet?

Not that I agree with ‘kicking up’ in any circumstances. There are plenty of places I don’t eat because I simply don’t care for the food. So I don’t eat there.

Op doesnt even know if the family in question were getting a take away vegan meal to go with the child's mcdonald burger.

Why is it that vegan/vegetarian restaurants are allowed to not offer a meat dish on their menu, yet if you look at the majority of steak restaurants there is always one veg alternative?

Have seen enough veges bring some of their own food into omnivore restaurants, if it stops them moaning ( regualrly!) about how no one caters for them - then fine!

Wow, what an unusual post... where do you live? The 1950s?

Restaurants can offer whatever food they like, of course. They're not obligated to cater for everyone.

Most steak restaurants offer a veggie dish because it's good for business, not out of the goodness of their hearts.

Literally never seen anyone bring their own food into a restaurant either, unless they had allergies.

OP YANBU, presumably the vegan place was an independent eaterie (as I can't think of any chain vegan places) so needs to make money from customers taking up space, and it's rude to bring your own food into a place serving its own unless otherwise stated by the venue.

I see no problem with this. Vegans feel no shame bombarding meat eaters and shouting abuse at them. Perhaps if they learn some courtesy, people may extend some to them too.

Why is it that vegan/vegetarian restaurants are allowed to not offer a meat dish on their menu, yet if you look at the majority of steak restaurants there is always one veg alternative?

Because all meat eaters ALSO eat vegan sometimes? You understand that really don't' you? YOu can also get meat almost literally everywhere else.

I see no problem with this. Vegans feel no shame bombarding meat eaters and shouting abuse at them. Perhaps if they learn some courtesy, people may extend some to them too.

Precisely how many times have you been hassled by vegans at your regular meat eating establishment?

Ultimately for something like this it is the cafe owners decision.

It's inappropriate to take food into an eatery that hasn't been bought there, unless there are signs up (or the owner says) saying that it's okay to do so. Exception would be babies who are not fully weaned. Anyone else - no!

You either have to make arrangements with the owner in some way beforehand, or you eat elsewhere.

That's regardless of what food it is, or what type of food the place serves. Taking in a veggie burger would have been just as inappropriate.

@ScienceItUsedToBeAThing Twice. I have had them thrust pictures of animals into my face when trying to go about my business in the town centre multiple times. Oh and there's the ones who were screaming 'murderer' at me for wearing a fur coat too.

Vegans feel no shame bombarding meat eaters and shouting abuse at them.

I'm in my mid-forties and have eaten meat all my life - I've never once been abused by a vegan, or even had a vegan attempt to dissuade me in a civil way from eating meat.

I’ve been vegan since before it was cool and all you could eat was lentils... I really can’t get worked up about MacDonalds.

@ScreamingValenta they set up a table with leaflets and pictures of animals in my town centre on a regular basis. Some are polite and try to educate people on veganism, others are horrendous.

“Op doesnt even know if the family in question were getting a take away vegan meal to go with the child's mcdonald burger.”

They don’t do take away food Horace

Yes, it is independent nanbread

“Vegans feel no shame bombarding meat eaters and shouting abuse at them. Perhaps if they learn some courtesy, people may extend some to them too.”

What, all vegans?
Do you have an axe to grind here ScienceItUsedToBeAThing?

Was it a real fur coat Pinkyyy?

Bet theres a back history.
Maybe the kid has allergies/food issues and the cafe owner agreed beforehand to allow them to bring in their own food?
I used to work in a school for children with ASD and several cafes would let us bring food in.

I bet people in there were wearing leather shoes and belts. Hypocrisy at its finest