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To press charges against this parent?

643 replies

Rosegarden10 · 10/03/2019 08:39

I've name changed for this as obviously this is very outing.

On Friday, my child attended a school disco. Whilst they were at the school disco, another parent broke into the school and was banging on the hall doors to get in. When she couldnt access the hall she kicked the glass door and broke the window smashing the glass. The children and adults inside were terrified and they had to evacuate the children in an emergency lockdown procedure.

My child (and the majority of the other children) are now traumatised. My child doesnt want to go back to school tomorrow. The police arrived at the scene however it doesnt appear as though they arrested her as she the parent was on the parent WhatsApp group trying to justify her behaviour an hour after the incident.

Can I press charges against this woman for the trauma she has caused my child and the other children? I am so angry!!

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90percentvodka10percenthuman · 10/03/2019 09:24

I do love an aibu/yes/fuck you thread

Rosegarden10 · 10/03/2019 09:24

It wouldn't aid my child trauma - when have I fucking said that! It would reassure me that this woman is locked up and pays for what she did that night!

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hiddengem86 · 10/03/2019 09:25

I don't get why people are making such a commotion over the doors, in my childrens primary school the door opens to the reception area where staff would have to buzz you through to gain access to the school. Also these are primary school children why wouldn't they be traumatised.

IceRebel · 10/03/2019 09:25

I honestly can't believe some of these responses. Would you honestly tell your child to just get over it???

No, but equally there's no need to talk about the mother being armed or a terrorist. It was scary, but the staff handled it well and no one was harmed.

whippersnapperwrapper · 10/03/2019 09:25

Is she still on the WhatsApp group ?

TheFaerieQueene · 10/03/2019 09:26

Well as you are not the CPS and can’t ‘press charges’ what are you hoping to achieve?

LakieLady · 10/03/2019 09:26

Why are school shootings not considered terrorist offences? I would say that’s exactly what they are.

Doesn't an act have to include a political element to be considered terrorism in the UK, eg to influence the government or promote a particular cause?

So, a right-wing extremist murdering an MP: terrorism; Dunblane shooting: not terrorism.

Frecklesonmyarm · 10/03/2019 09:26

So no answer to the fact that you actually dont know any of this is fact

Or how she broke reinforced glass

Or any facts, its come from some kids. Kids who are prone to exaggeration and some, if not many will be enjoying 'oh my God we nearly died'. That's what's happens with kids.

I remember my daughter telling me that there had been someone on school grounds with knife. There wasnt. They tried an ad hoc drill to evacuate, to practice. One kids said they overheard a teacher saying it wasnt a drill. It was bollocks and a planned drill because parents had been made aware in advance.

Clearly non of the adults picking up the kids went through reception as there was broken glass so no one can verify it.

Not one person has said it's ok. Simply that you need to deescalate the situation. You need to calm you child and help them understand while it was scary, they were not in danger.

This is YOUR job. Is it fair that parents have to deal with the fall out from others action, no. But it's still our job

exLtEveDallas · 10/03/2019 09:26

I very much doubt the children thought they were being subjected to a terrorist attack

All it takes is one Year 6 drama queen to say it for the others to become hysterical. Last week we had about 20 kids from Year 3-6 absolutely hysterical, crying and creating over a 'man in a silver van climbing over the fences and snatching kids' - all absolute bollocks of course. We had to ask our PSCO to tell them it was bollocks before they'd calm down, and even then the one that started it was still being a dramalama at home time.

OP whilst you and your child have had a nasty shock, you need to downplay it (even if you don't want to). Praise the school for keeping them safe, call the crazy woman "silly", comment on how safe they were behind the locked door. I'm sure the school will be doing the same and you could even have a quiet word with a teacher saying how scared DC were and could they reassure them.

x2boys · 10/03/2019 09:27

I don't think anyone is suggesting what this women did was ok, and I assume the police will be dealing with it how do you know they haven't charged her? The point is you can't press charges (assuming you are in the uk):and while I expected did upset 're kids ,kids are reslliant, my son has a a horribly traumatic experience when he was 8 and was questioned by the police and whilst it was obviously very upsetting for him he did learn to move on from it .

PettyContractor · 10/03/2019 09:27

There’s no such crime as ‘traumatising a child’.

I'd guess the fear she caused was a crime. Threatening behaviour, disorderly conduct, something like that.

TheInvestigator · 10/03/2019 09:27

@Rosegarden10

If you are in the UK then you cannot "press charges". That isn't a thing here.

You can report an incident to the police. They will investigate it. They will then send a report to the procurator fiscal (scotland) or crown prosecution service (England and wales). The fiscal or the crown service then review the report and decide if a conviction is likely, and if it is in the public interest to prosecute. If yes to both, they will issue charges and the prosecution process starts.

The police can also choose restorative justice, caution etc.

But it's not up to you. Your choices stop after you have reported an incident. It you change your mind, you can tell the police you don't want anything to happen but they can continue to investigate and bring charged it is necessary. So it's not up to you.

The police have been called. The woman may have been bailed or they might not have made any arrests whilst they investigate. But the process will be followed, however there is nothing for you to report as no crime was committed against you or your child. It was just against school property.

You could take civil action against her for the "trauma" but honestly, you should just use this as an educational tool with your child.

Someone tried to do something bad, the school followed their safety procedure and they children were all kept sage. That's what you should be focussing on and reinforcing with your child - that sometimes people his bad or stupid things, but that the teachers will always do everything they can to keep you safe and it worked this time.

Most importantly, you need to calm down. Your outbursts and bad reaction will fuel your child's; they look to you to see how they should react and you should be teaching calm and control, not mad.

FamilyOfAliens · 10/03/2019 09:27

To the rest of your, go fuck yourself.

Thank goodness your child has someone calm and balanced to help her deal with this upset. She must feel very reassured.

Rosegarden10 · 10/03/2019 09:28

NO PARENT HAS SUGGESTED IT WAS A TERRORIST. THE OLDER CHILDREN WERE COMING OUT SAYING THEY THOUGHT IT WAS A TERRORIST ATTACK. THE YOUNGER ONES HEARD. CAN 👏 YOU 👏 READ 👏

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YogaWannabe · 10/03/2019 09:29

I hate how litigious the world has gone. Ffs

LikeDolphinsCanSwim · 10/03/2019 09:29

If you are in the UK you cannot “press charges”. Such a thing does not exist here.

As several people have already pointed out...

JacquesHammer · 10/03/2019 09:29

Rosegarden10

I think you should calm down, one begins to suspect having an over-dramatic mother might be adding to your children’s alleged “trauma”.

Frecklesonmyarm · 10/03/2019 09:29

when have I fucking said that! It would reassure me that this woman is locked up and pays for what she did that night!

So its revenge you want?

whippersnapperwrapper · 10/03/2019 09:30

For the 3rd time - is she still on the WhatsApp group ?

ZippyBungleandGeorge · 10/03/2019 09:30

The CPS make decisions about prosecution on advice and information from the police. Stop informing your views on the justice system from watching TV. Pushing charges has absolutely nothing to do with you even if you were the direct victim of a crime

marvellousnightforamooncup · 10/03/2019 09:30

School doors are fire doors that can't be opened from the outside. Haven't you ever been to a school before?

SavoyCabbage · 10/03/2019 09:30

They need to employ a better DJ. A decent sound system and 120 children should have drowned out the noise of a woman banging on some doors and kicking some glass.

Really though, when I’ve witnessed or been involved with similar situations, I’ve just been grateful that it’s not my life. Some people, including children are dealing with this sort of thing all of the time.

YogaWannabe · 10/03/2019 09:30

one begins to suspect having an over-dramatic mother might be adding to your children’s alleged “trauma

Agree! The caps lock is on but there’s nobody home!

adulthumanwolf · 10/03/2019 09:30

What would they lock her up for?

The most she'd get is probably a stern talking to by the police, which likely happened.

Namechangeforthiscancershit · 10/03/2019 09:31

Ok OP you really do need to calm down. It’s not helping your child one bit. This has obviously upset you all but it’s time to turn it around and losing it at strangers online is not helping. Your child is safe and loved and has you to reassure them that school is totally safe.

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