Meet the Other Phone. A phone that grows with your child.

Meet the Other Phone.
A phone that grows with your child.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To press charges against this parent?

643 replies

Rosegarden10 · 10/03/2019 08:39

I've name changed for this as obviously this is very outing.

On Friday, my child attended a school disco. Whilst they were at the school disco, another parent broke into the school and was banging on the hall doors to get in. When she couldnt access the hall she kicked the glass door and broke the window smashing the glass. The children and adults inside were terrified and they had to evacuate the children in an emergency lockdown procedure.

My child (and the majority of the other children) are now traumatised. My child doesnt want to go back to school tomorrow. The police arrived at the scene however it doesnt appear as though they arrested her as she the parent was on the parent WhatsApp group trying to justify her behaviour an hour after the incident.

Can I press charges against this woman for the trauma she has caused my child and the other children? I am so angry!!

OP posts:
IceRebel · 10/03/2019 13:09

I'd like to think if there was a crazed angry woman breaking through windows and threatening to kill someone

Once again, we don't actually know that this is what happened.

clairemcnam · 10/03/2019 13:10

Stealth A shouting angry parent threatening the Head may be a danger to the Head. No one at work deserves to be hit. Safeguarding for staff would say that the mother should not be given access to the Head.

StealthPolarBear · 10/03/2019 13:11

Either she was a risk of violence or she wasn't. You can't have it both ways. Either she was shouty cross mummy or she was exhibiting threatening behaviour which should be taken seriously.

clairemcnam · 10/03/2019 13:11

She may have been a danger to the Head in that she may have slapped the Head for example. But you can not charge people for what they may have done.

StealthPolarBear · 10/03/2019 13:12

The consensus is that the threats to the head were exaggeration

Frecklesonmyarm · 10/03/2019 13:13

7Pip quite possibly, that's not true.

If the police called the police and said anything about having to start emergency procedure and evacuation......there would have been loads of police and the woman deginitly would have been arrested for at least questioning.

It's not that hard to understand.

The kids were probably simply moved away and their parents called. Again the ops story doesnt fit with emergency procedure because she got her stories from kids gossip

7Pip · 10/03/2019 13:13

You can charge them for what they have done.

clairemcnam · 10/03/2019 13:14

Stealth We xposted. I suspect shouty angry mother who may have hit the Head, or may not. The staff would not know, and neither do we. But a possibility. So standard policies would dictate that a staff member is not put at risk. So no she would not be given access to the Head.
That does not make her a danger to the kids.

StealthPolarBear · 10/03/2019 13:15

Why was she more likely to hit the head than any of the other members of staff? Or the children?
Unless she was making threats.

7Pip · 10/03/2019 13:17

Well, my two would have loved the drama. I would hope they wouldn't have been scared. Their teachers are very calm and nurturing. They've never seen something like this though, so after the initial drama, once they got chatting to the kids in school, it would become folklore for them (with my two embellishing facts for dramatic effect! Angry).

clairemcnam · 10/03/2019 13:17

Stealth The consensus is that the story the OP heard and is believing as fact, is exaggerated.
Saying the angry shouty mother may have hit the Head, or at least verbally abused her, is not the same as saying the OP is way over the top to talk about lock down procedures, Dunblane and terrorist attacks.
Workplaces who deal with the public all have policies that staff should not be expected to put up with physical or verbal abuse. Policies are designed around that. A Head expected to put up with angry shouty parents verbally abusing her, would have a legal case to make against the school.

StealthPolarBear · 10/03/2019 13:18

But what would make anyone think she'd hit the head? The head specifically?

7Pip · 10/03/2019 13:18

I know my 8 year old would probably have taken her down with some ninja moves (in his head Confused )

clairemcnam · 10/03/2019 13:20

Stealth The OP clearly says the mother was angry at the Head and wanted to speak to her. The whole incident seems from the OP to have been about unhappiness with the Head.

StealthPolarBear · 10/03/2019 13:22

If someone turns up angry and wants to speak to the head, the head should deal with it. Unless u ou genuinely think head teachers should never have to deal with anger. If someone makes threatening words or behaviour to an individual then imo they are a general threat and should be treated as such.

7Pip · 10/03/2019 13:23

We had to undergo training on females working alone at my workplace. So, if you're alone working late at night in the office, or you're on site etc. It included training on whether to allow angry people into the office if you're a lone female. Our training was not to allow them entry, but if they have gained entry and become angry, to speak calmly until they calm down. More or less. If I had 100 kids behind me, the training is possibly different.

PiebaldHamster · 10/03/2019 13:26

Another classically batshit thread.

FullOfJellyBeans · 10/03/2019 13:28

Stealth. No if someone isn't calm enough to behave rationally the head shouldn't have to deal with it (even if the mum was calm she can't expect to just turn up at school and immediately see the head). If she was angry and beligerant the school can ask her to leave and have the police remove her if she refuses to go. That makes her a nuscience but doesn't mean she's likely to become a terrorist.

Frecklesonmyarm · 10/03/2019 13:32

If you call the police and advise someone is attacking the building and you are starting emergency procedures the following happens

You are told to secure everyone, including kids and NOT evacuate unless you have no other choice. Because there could be secondary puportrators or devices outside.

The police including armed police would arrive and secure the site before evacuating the (in this case) children

This takes more than an hour. Parents wouldn't be able to pick their kids up straight away or even get near the site.

The woman would have definitely been arrested.

It's more likely the police were called and told an angry parent was at reception.

Do you really think the police receive a call about a school having to start emergency procedures and just send a couple of police officers round?

This information comes from my training with the army and police and confirmed by my dad, who is a serving officer of 32 years.

This simply did not happe like the OP believes.

Frecklesonmyarm · 10/03/2019 13:36

7Pip that isn't advice for females working alone. That advice for everyone, of both sexes. Working alone or not. Sounds like the course was a general safety course, dressed up as a course for women.

Bluntness100 · 10/03/2019 13:40

They've never seen something like this though

I think it's fair to say none of the kids there that night also didn't see what the op is saying, because it's hugely exaggerated.

The fact of the matter is, if a person behaves as the op is describing, the police would not have walked away. At rhe very least the woman would have been taken in for her own protection, or the police would have arrested her if she was smashing things up and threatening the life of the head.

The fact rhe police walked away, tells us everything we need to know.

The op is exaggerating, either because her kids did and she's no clue what occurred, or because she's a proper drama llama and can't help herself.

7Pip · 10/03/2019 13:44

Frecklesonmyarm You're now an expert on MY life?
It was called 'Females working alone'.
The men didn't have to do that course.
It was specifically about females.
You don't believe that exists? Christ but there are some muppets on here.

Wakk · 10/03/2019 13:44

I've never worked in a school where the year 6s would have gone to a disco where reception and key stage 1 children were at.

Sounds like a strange night all round.

Splodgetastic · 10/03/2019 13:46

@7Pip I haven't RTFT, but I thought perhaps she might have eventually gone quietly, been arrested and accepted a caution (like many people do, without a solicitor present) only to be back on social media an hour later.

IceRebel · 10/03/2019 13:47

I've never worked in a school where the year 6s would have gone to a disco where reception and key stage 1 children were at.

Apparently, according to others on the thread it's quite common for small rural schools. However, like you I have never experienced it, and was wondering how it would work with music and entertainment choices.