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Smoking weed - what’s your take on it...

367 replies

Notcontent · 03/03/2019 23:50

I don’t know much about it but on balance think it should probably be decriminalised. However, it is addictive and it obviously can have a negative impact on people’s lives and mental health. It does seem very prevalent around my part of London - I feel like I can smell it in the street all the time when I am out and about.

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malificent7 · 04/03/2019 07:17

It causes psychosis and paranoia...and conspiracy theories. Not a fan.
I got messed up with it as a young teen. Oh...and is causes gene expression for bi polar disorder...not sure why people think it's safe. Confused

riotlady · 04/03/2019 07:18

To me it’s like alcohol- five for adults, in moderation.

I’d like to see it legalised, that would take a nice chunk of change out of the pockets of gangs and give it to the government. Waste less police time too

malificent7 · 04/03/2019 07:19

I do care if others smoke it as then we all have to breathe in their fumes...passive smoking of narcotics...no thanks.
Also hate the fact it has a cool, right on hippy image.

MephistophelesApprentice · 04/03/2019 07:21

Best treatment for ASD that exists.

No better and no worse them alcohol for long term damage, based on my experiences and that of others around me, but with no aggression it's a clear winner for reducing social harm.

pilates · 04/03/2019 07:25

The only experience I have is a good friend that used to smoke it all day, didn’t work and on benefits. You struggled to have a conversation with him as there was a delayed reaction of about ten seconds. Thankfully he is off it now married with children, a good job and is happy.

malificent7 · 04/03/2019 07:25

I don't like the argument that alxhohol is worse...perhaps it is...dosn't mean we should say othet drugs are safer..they are not.
Trouble is you don't know if you have the genes that get expressed when smoking ...until it's too late.

malificent7 · 04/03/2019 07:26

Sorry for typos

JustTwoMoreSecs · 04/03/2019 07:35

Similar to wine: in moderation it is fine.
I believe more people binge drink or are addicted to alcohol than to cannabis.

ChakiraChakra · 04/03/2019 07:39

The alcohol is worse argument doesn't hold water IMO. Our society has a really fucked up attitude to alcohol. How many A&E visits and 999 responses are related to alcohol? Banning alcohol wouldn't work for many reasons, but that's no reason to legalise a different drug just because it's not as harmful as alcohol - that's a pretty low place to set the bar.

MyBreadIsEggy · 04/03/2019 07:41

I also think it should be decriminalised. If it was government controlled and you could legally possess enough for personal use, I can’t see that being the downfall of society. It takes the power away from criminals.

I’ve personally seen alcohol do way more damage to a person than smoking pretty regular weed has.

missmouse101 · 04/03/2019 07:43

What?! I can't believe people's casual attitude! Isn't it illegal? How can people obtain it so readily and smoke in public if so?! Shock

FierceMother · 04/03/2019 07:44

Alcohol and cigarettes are addictive but they're legal. Cigarettes are actually more harmful because they are full of chemicals like arsenic!

I think we should do what America does and make it legal in doses - so you get a prescription or a 'pass' from the dr and then you can buy it.
More tax for the government (hopefully to put into the Nhs) and better care for a lot of people with medical issues and if your buying it legally then the chances of it being mixed with other dangerous drugs have been cut out.

NicksWife08 · 04/03/2019 07:48

I hate it, my mother smoked it from when I was around 15. She started having one occasionally in the evening to relax and unwind and then gradually over the years started smoking more often and became regular.

Then of course she started making friends with dealers and their parents, which was really uncomfortable.

Over the years she stopped working, became paranoid and aggressive, as a previous poster put, would make up stuff and just cause arguments.

By the time I was 28, so 13 years of her smoking it I'd had enough and couldn't have her in my life anymore, the final straw was when she'd go outside to smoke it when I was visiting with my baby and despite so many requests for her not to do it when we were there or when we were coming she still would.

In some ways it was the best thing she ever did for us, I've never smoked cannabis and never would, I rarely drink either as she would often drink whilst smoking.

I don't know whether legalisation would help, I think it would still be a problem for some people.

bebeboeuf · 04/03/2019 07:51

It's affect on fertility is massive yet not widely known.

CaptainMarvelDanvers · 04/03/2019 07:51

It smells like cat piss and makes the user smell like cat piss. I have a really sensitive nose so it makes me want to vomit.

I don’t smoke or drink, so I have no horse in the race. I think decriminalisation of it could improve the quality and make it less potent.

I think the taxes from the sales of it should go towards mental health services (I know it won’t, but one could hope).

People, I know, who smoke it take no notice of any of warnings or issues surrounding is they think it’s all propaganda to try and demonise it. By decriminalising it, maybe they would take a bit more notice of health warnings.

CaptainMarvelDanvers · 04/03/2019 07:58

No better and no worse them alcohol for long term damage, based on my experiences and that of others around me, but with no aggression it's a clear winner for reducing social harm.

Ahh, the no aggression myth that keeps getting bandied around. From my personal experience that’s bollocks.

Perhaps it has to do with potency, I don’t know. But my experience of people who smoke it several times a day, everyday is not good.

Banterlope · 04/03/2019 07:59

Modern cannabis has been genetically engineered to be as high in tetrahydrocannabinols (THC, the part that gets you stoned) as possible. Weed and hash from the 60s–90s typically had a THC content of around 4–7%, where as today’s strains (skunk) can easily be 18–21%, with some (probably dishonestly) claiming to be as much as 27%. For those that do not have a tolerance for it that can be like going from sipping a pint of cider to necking a bottle of vodka.

On top of the active content there are two different types of strains with specific attributes. The sativa can be good for creativity, chattiness, mild euphoria and physical activity. The other type (broadly speaking) is the indica, which has a much more physical effect. It gets called ‘couch lock’ as it can lay you out on the sofa and effectively end your day. Those who prefer this type often smoke/eat/whatever in the evening to give them a decent night’s sleep. There are also hybrid strains, typically 60% indica/40% sativa or vice versa whereby growers try to bring out the qualities of both strains in one plant.

As a kid growing up in London we smoked hash and Thai grass, which was pretty mild. I had two friends who smoked it a lot and it was terrible for them. One is in assisted living accommodation and the other killed himself aged 16. Before anyone starts blaming the weed for this I don’t think it was a causal factor – both were diagnosed with schizophrenia and it seems likely that their condition was made a lot worse or accelerated by their constant smoking, but it didn’t cause it. They would be schizophrenic whether they smoked or not.

I also had a friend who had a psychotic episode in his 20s as a direct result of getting stoned. It was really frightening. He thought his girlfriend was a vampire who was trying to kill him. If you’re prone to these mental health conditions when you are an adolescent then regular smoking weed can be really bad for you – your brain chemistry and emotional maturity can be badly affected by it. At the same time smoking lots at that age can distract you from your emotional/psychological problems and you can get locked in loop. It can feel like it’s helping you while at the same time doing a lot of damage. Although my experience is of course anecdotal that’s what happened to my two friends.

Despite this I think it should be legal, heavily taxed and properly restricted to those who are old enough to smoke it. Sure some people will still get messed up by it of course, just as some people can’t drink without becoming nasty, abusive and violent arseoholics. That’s just people. The way the world is going I think it’ll be legal here in maybe 10 years or so, so it’s important to get educated.

Statistically I don't think smoking weed has ever been cited as a cause of death in and of itself. Ironically the people who get killed are dealers trying to protect their market or those who move it on in quantity – an ounce/ 28g of skunk can sell for as much as £220 or more in the UK, so obviously there's a lot of criminality involved in selling it.

DontCallMeCharlotte · 04/03/2019 08:06

Ten or twenty years ago I'd have agreed but the shit they smoke these days is evil and I've recently seen at least two young people ruin their lives on it. And the stench of the stuff! It used to be quite fragrant but I guess it's not called "skunk" for nothing.

ShaggyRug · 04/03/2019 08:06

I hate it. 2 family members have smoked it since they were teens. Both now have MH issues. It’s just sad to witness really.

Dundundun · 04/03/2019 08:42

I think smoking weed in terms of its side effects and adverse effects on mental health are the same as alcohol, it very much depends on your state of mind and reasons for starting smoking as to the adverse effects it can have. I think more should also be done to raise awareness of the addcitiveness of cannabis before it's legalised. It isn't one of the most addictive drugs but it is more addictive than alcohol. When I was a teen (10-15 years ago) we were always told you can't get addicted to cannabis which is not true.

I'm not against legalisation but certain things should change before it is such as more awareness amongst health care professionals as to the real effects it can have, there a lot of myths out there and it seems to have a love it or hate it mentality with little regards to actual facts surrounding it. More money and resources would have to be put into rehab facilities for people who did find they had an issue with it.

I also think it shouldn't be available to under 21s if it's legalised.

As to it causing mental health problems I don't think it does. I think it exacerbates them, but i think a lot of people who start heavy cannabis usage already have mild mental health problems, that is true of everyone I have known any way but it's impossible to do a study on that.

FedUpMum40 · 04/03/2019 08:46

I personally hate it, turned my son into a paranoid zombie, but he now has turned a corner and only has the odd joint nown and again, he holds down a full time job, when he was constantly snoking it he would be round a scummy house smoking it with his scummy mates who sat and smoked it all day, he doesn't anymore, so maybe OK in moderation, also I know it does help people, but they don't sit and smoke it all day long

Slowknitter · 04/03/2019 08:54

It possibly ought to be decriminalised, but I am very anti. I have taught many teenagers who have turned into paranoid, volatile, apathetic characters on it.

Meandmetoo · 04/03/2019 09:31

No problem with it whatsoever. Never heard of any issues which stemmed from a heavy night on the weed. Alcohol however........all the problems I've encountered/seen when out , or even at home when i was in an abusive relationship, started with too much booze.

If my DC smoke weed occasionally when they are older but stay away from drink I'd be fine with it.

GunpowderGelatine · 04/03/2019 09:37

One of the main reasons I'd be in favour of decriminalisation is because illicit drug money funds crime, the thought of meeting up with a bloke in a car park to buy weed for that money to go towards facilitating sex trafficking etc makes my skin crawl. So scuzzy!

Banterlope · 04/03/2019 09:52

Kids will always sell weed to each other, usually to finance their own consumption. A real eye-opener these days are the markets on TOR/dark web. With these, the days of getting mugged off in a pub car park are over. The dealer’s online reputation is carefully managed – much like eBay, it’s all peer reviewed. The quality of the weed (or whatever), weight, price and ‘stealth’ (i.e. vacuum sealed and then put in a mylar bags to mask the smell) are all rated, so if anyone tries to scam or deceive their rep takes a knock and people avoid them. To some extent this forces dealers to be honest about the stuff they sell, which at least means people aren’t picking up stuff padded out with noxious substances. I remember buying hash in Manchester in the early 90s that burnt with a green flame when you crumbled it into a spliff. I was told this was because it was cut with diesel and all sorts of crap to make up the weight.

Talking to a friend who’s a copper in Ipswich he seemed quite relaxed about this online trade. You have to have a bank account to buy the cryptocurrency, a fixed address to ship your stuff to, a computer and the wherewithal to manage encryption software and whatnot. To his mind these are not the people who hang around looking to score, possibly with a blade in their pocket in case things get heated. He said it freed up more resources to deal with the nutters falling out of pubs and bashing the shit out of each other on a Saturday night, while the stoners were tucked up at home watching crap on Netflix.