to not make DD have last HPV vaccine

[adultcat]

DD (14) had the first injection and promptly fainted. The second one was traumatic. She's just refused to have the third one. They were all done at school but last week she refused to have it and told them I'd take her to the doctor to get it done.
Can I do that? Should she have it?
Tried to research it but there's lots of opinions out there and I'm really confused!

Her body, her choice. This doesn’t apply any less just because it’s a vaccination, and frankly I find the idea of anyone threatening no school trips etc off the back of it disgraceful.

This isn’t like the pre-school vaccinations where not having it potentially puts others incapable of having it at risk, and there are still enough documented reports of adverse side effects to make reluctance perfectly understandable at this point, regardless of needle phobias.

this jab does cause fainting and its not because of a phobia. be sure of the reason she is fainting fist.

Yes she should have and also isn't she due Y9 immunisations too? I've just had a letter for my DS to say that they're due.

If the school environment is too traumatic for your DD then i'd take her to the doctors surgery instead. I know from my own DD that having injections with friends around was more stressful that having them done in the nice calm nurse's office at our GPs.

I used to faint when having injections and blood tests. Dr wrote on my notes I'm needle phobic.

Worst was the meningitis vaccine at school when I had the injection, walked out of the room and about 10 metres away, fainted and got concussion hitting my head on a concrete floor.

Much much better to go to Doctors. Make sure she is laid down, and is looking the other way or has her eyes shut. Ask if she wants them to tell her when they are putting needle in or not - personally Id rather not know even a few seconds in advance. Ask if there is a particular nurse that is good with nervous people. Relaxation type exercises might be helpful, I try to sort of zone out. Also eating and drinking plenty before is important to reduce other factors that make her more likely to faint. I wouldn't force it (I refused a jab as a child and wasn't made to have it) however it can get better over time, she needs to learn how to manage her reaction.

Parent them at 14? Well yes, of course we do!
BUT, trying to physically wrestle someone to lay down and have an injection is NOT THAT EASY.

Of course the OP can't force it.

But nowhere in the opening post does the poster say the DD is refusing point blank. She said to the school Mum would take her to the doctors. OP was checking that was an OK thing to do.

BUT, trying to physically wrestle someone to lay down and have an injection is NOT THAT EASY.

It's also illegal unless they are mentally incapable for very good reason.

As far as the HCPs are concerned, at 14, it's not the parents decision.

For everyone on here who has a child with a needle phobia please, please for the love of god work on helping them to face and conquer their fears rather than work out ways to avoid them.

The odd quick injection or blood test is an inevitability of life where we are fortunate enough to have health care. They are rarely particularly painful. They bring potentially life saving benefits.

Many of these young people will happily have piercings and tattoos. Fact. I’m genuinely not dismissing phobias but this one needs to be addressed in practical terms and within the whole theme of learning to look after and take responsibility for ourselves.

Teen, the OP states later in the thread that they tried the doctor already.

I had valium before vaccinations at that age. I'm fine with them now though (ivf cured me)

My DD was quite nervous about the HPV vaccine (to the extent I thought she might refuse), and had a friend who gets anxious about everything. The school did them and a few others similar first so they could get it over and done with at the start of the day. Really helped.

DD asked if she could get her ears pierced (2nd set) - she asking thinking I would say no. I was delighted because I thought it’d break the thought process of needles...voila!
Fast forward to the day - walk in, ask, get told she’s need to have a needle rather than the piercing ‘gun’, I turn around and DD is already out the door.
Believe me, I have tried everything.

You need to find a way for her to get over her needle phobia. She'll need inoculations if she wants to travel anywhere tropical, and I've lost count of how many tetanus jabs I've had over the years. I personally find it best not to look at what's going on - is she actually watching the needle go in? Looking the other way and chatting to someone might help.

Aw poor love. Get it done at the doctors and get her having it lying down. Have some chocolate on hand to help her feel better when she comes round (always works for me)

Watching what is currently happening to a dear family friend who is currently undergoing very aggressive treatment for a throat cancer caused by the HPV virus, there is little doubt to me that this is an important vaccine. (for girls and boys)

She really needs to have it.

I thought they only needed two shots if they were under a certain age? Anyway I think I'm alone in being the only one on here who will actually discuss the vaccine with DD before she has it. She had all the usual childhood vaccines when young but the HPV one worries me because of the BMJ/Cochrane report. Apparently the vaccine is free on the NHS up to 18 y (and presumably still available at a cost after that) so it's not as if it's a now or never decision. I certainly won't be using pressure or bribes.

I agree that it's good/important to get over a needle phobia though.

We’ve done the laying down. We’ve done the treat afterwards. We’ve had the ‘it’ll stop you being able to travel’, we’ve had the health (massive) implications, we’ve had the ‘if you became ill, you’d be having many, many injections’ chat.
Honestly, so far, I think we’ve covered all that we can do, for now.
I’m playing the long game and waiting for a situation to crop up, where there is no alternative other than to have an injection; whatever that may be, then that will, fingers crossed, break the spell so to speak.

Only two doses are required now if the first one is given before the age of 15. I thought this changed a few years ago in England. It was the case for my (now) Year 11 DD.

You don’t have to force/scare/manipulate/coerce. You could just PARENT them

FFS. What a horribly judgy comment. If you don't suffer from a phobia, seemingly small things like injections are easy. What do you suggest the OP does when her dd point blank refuses to have it? Physically pin her down??

saythatagain exactly the same here. I have tried everything with my dd too. I now think, for us anyway, that not putting any pressure on her is the best course of action. Dd is still young (17), she will deal with it when she's ready.

Take a friend with you?
Followed by bribe / trip out.
She may be inclined to cooperate?
I'm trying to think as my 14 yo self.

She doesn't need to have it right now - it's available until she's 18. She may be better able to face it.

I would tell her that you won't make her have it (you can't), but that she will have to work on her fear - the next time, it could be something even more important.

I would take her wherever she’s comfortable to have it done, but yes, make sure she has it. I’ve been through 18 months of waiting for biopsy due to possible cervical cancer (living outside the UK in a private health care system at the time where I couldn’t afford the biopsy as a student). And I’ve just been through a year of cancer treatment for my mum. It’s hell. A jab is a minor inconvenience (for most) in contrast.