Mansplaining

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Just had a discussion with the ever-lovely DH where I mentioned that a female friend of mine (an eminent Professor in her field) was a target of mansplaining via a live TV interview recently.

DH exploded at me. Mansplaining apparently isn't real and I shouldn't think that it is...

Hmmm.... I think he may be doing it to me. Dick

"Test some different period things out". Oh that's brilliant

It may be a buzzword and I had certainly never heard of it until I discovered mumsnet, but it is the perfect word to cover some of the things I had heard from men. It describes it far better than any of the words i had previously in my vocabulary.

My (at that point) childless brother went off onto a bit of a rant, because I co-slept with my newborn.

Apparently, my child would never sleep by himself, and I was setting up loads of future issues.

DS was two weeks old.

Db had watched Super Nanny.

He absolutely didn’t do it to a man. There was a man right next to me, who held the same opinion as me.

So he did do it to another man.

Aww, bless you, User.

So he did do it to another man

No. He spoke to me. Hence the use of the word “love”.

Aren’t you able to work out when someone is speaking directly to you, and when someone is speaking to a group?

This one is good also: man explains how Jess Eaton is involved in her own business, with a nice side order of “know your place, woman”

This thread would be hilarious if it weren't so sad.

A man repeatedly insists that mansplaining doesn't exist and that it is just in (some) women's imaginations, because he says he hasn't experienced it and it therefore no longer exists if it ever did

Those where your words you also say other people spoke on your behalf. How am I to know if this other man with the same opinion was one of those or not?

Just because the man is patronising and rude it is not mansplaning.
Woman are just as bar, what's the made up word for that?

user the man "explained" something specifically to jaque even though there was a man sitting next to her (who held the same belief), but he didn't include that man in his "explanation".
That's the difference between patronisingly proclaiming your (wrong, in this case) opinion and mansplaining (specifically targeting a woman, to explain to).

Db had watched Super Nanny.

My brother corrected me about caesareans once. After I'd had one myself. No he is not a surgeon or medical professional of any kind. He had, however, read something about it on the internet...

So he did do it to another man.

How when he was addressing a woman? Not a man. The fact that there was a man and a woman to choose from and he chose the woman is the point.

Or perhaps she was picked because the man felt she had personal experience?
I'm not saying he is right by any stretch of the imagination, he's an arse.
Just it is not mansplaning. This is a word that has popped up recently that seems to explain everything from a man being an arse to I don't like this conversation stop pointing out I'm wrong. I am woman.
Again I ask what's the term when it comes to woman doing the same, what isn't there one of these when woman can be just as bad if not worse?
It is a word that seems to have a very very fluid definition that changes depending on who you ask, where you ask and in what context you ask it it.
I do not agree that the word should be used because of this, I don't agree that the definition exists because of this.
We have many more accurate words to describe what you have posted here. No one example given is the same or very comparable.
Mansplaning is not a thing

now I want more Examples.

On a KIT day and Colleague A (female) asked how my delivery had gone. I'd had a section and said it had gone as well as expected but, like many things related to pregnancy, the books and the MW never fully prepare you for the reality. Colleague A agreed, told a funny story about how it never occurred to her what was actually involved in a section until she had to have one herself. Colleague B (male) joined in to say that sections are no big deal, one small cut and it's done. Colleague A said one small cut isn't the issue, it's the many layers of stitching afterwards where they quilt you back together. No, says Colleague B, it's one cut and one closure. He explained they only make one cut along the lower abdomen ("below the bikini line usually, that's the bit between your hips where the waistband of a bikini would sit") and remove the baby, they don't cut into the uterus because they wouldn't intentionally damage it like that, and that you don't bleed after a section because "they suction all the blood out while they're in there".

Mansplaning is not a thing

Saying that over and over doesn’t make it any more accurate.

Let's try again.

We live in a world where a lot of men assume as a matter of course that they know all about many, many things. They also assume that by and large women don't.

Because of these two erroneous assumptions, these men then share their knowledge and experience with women, whether they are asked to or not.
Some can't process that the woman they are talking to knows more than they do, even when it is pointed out.

It has nothing to do with opinions, everything to do with knowledge and respect and sexism.

Again I ask what's the term when it comes to woman doing the same, what isn't there one of these when woman can be just as bad if not worse?

As a class, men are the oppressors. They have - systemically - the upper hand. Because of this, when men do things like the many, many examples outlined on this thread, they are acting as agents for that oppression. They are saying “I am man, know your place, woman”

As a class, men are the oppressors. They have - systemically - the upper hand. Because of this, when men do things like the many, many examples outlined on this thread, they are acting as agents for that oppression. They are saying “I am man, know your place, woman”

And in one sentence the whole thread is summed up.
Woman good, men bad.

That’s not what I said, User

The equivalent would be a single older lady (who is not a childminder or nanny) advising a dad on childcare techniques- best brand of pushchair, when to bottle feed, blah blah blah. It would clearly be ridiculous for her to think that as a woman she must know more about babies and children than a father would.

I don't think I've ever seen it, though,

And in one sentence the whole thread is summed up. Woman good, men bad.

Misogyny Rule 11

User6949671, what about EwItsAHooman's c-section example there? Do you see why a man correcting two women who'd had sections, about a procedure he clearly knew nothing about and did not have the anatomy to ever experience first-hand, is being used as a (hilarious btw) example of what we're talking about?

JacquesHammer

Saying that over and over doesn’t make it any more accurate.

even the woman that coined the phrase says that woman do it to. meaning that the phrase itself is inaccurate.